https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4dJCxG
All but one component is solid. Only doubt is the cpu depending on games you're looking at playing and at what desired refresh rate.
Most games in 60-100fps in years to come. Im not a fan of 4k, and i even doubt upgrading to 1440p 144hz, currently on 1080 144hz.
i7 9700K is only marginally better in most benchmarks, and supposedly runs quite hotter.
Do you think that i5 9600k with OC will be bottleneck in future?
It's not really about resolution it's about how many frames a cpu can pre-render whilst still providing enough resources for other game cpu originated tasks like physics, AI, maps and multiplayer. 9600k is a decent fps performer but that's where the buck stops because it is so easily overworked from trying to prepare so many frames it is common for this cpu and 8600k (since they perform similar) to reach 100% usage unless you cap the fps to a level where it doesn't eat the cpu too much. This all depends on games though, cpu intensive games like Battlefield and Farcry, even Overwatch can cause high usages with these processors if fps is too high. Search 9600k high cpu usage and you'll come across many unhappy people.
9700k's IPC(instructions per clock) is stronger than the i5's and can handle higher frame rates much better. Since you'll be playing in 1080p, there's more frame pre-rendering to go with.
See this video, he explains the connection between resolution/refresh rate, frame rates and cpu usage.
Temperature wise, this case has decent air flow and if have a decent cooler like the Cryorig h7 or Noctua D15 instead of the Hyper 212 there will be no worry. Don't go for Artic Silver S5 if you're planning to, there's a too long cure period 200hrs. Go for instead Noctua nt-h1, no cure period and it performs better anyway. You'll get a tube if you go for a Noctua cooler. Noctua fans can be raised so there'll be plenty of room for dual channel ram since dimm slots are the outa 2nd and 4th slot from cpu socket.
Tbh, i dont even remember when was the last time i played some high paced fps. Its singleplayer games, rpgs/jrpgs, rts, etc. I was able to play some newer games on oooold i7 in 100+fps, so i wasnt expecting i5 to be a problem for me. Also Hyper 212 is regarded as being able to cool down this i5 even at 5ghz+, so i dont think there will be problem with cooler. That 9700k is almost 40% more expensive then 9600k, and i dont think its worth for me.
You might be thinking, who doesnt want to upgrade to i7 but has 1080 Ti aorus extreme... well, i got it from store only opened, not used, with 4 year warranty for 550US. I wanted to go for rtx2070 before.
Also in FPS benchmarks, in all new games OC i5 is only 10fps lower then OC i7.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuUwLuQGPj4&t=457s
There are only bigger 1%fps drops, but i really dont mind those in singleplayer games.
I respect your opinion and wish you well. I've explained what to expect so it's upto you.
Here is the list:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($479.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-H GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($126.63 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1098.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2415.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 07:53 EDT-0400
For similar budget you can get way better performance and better quality build.
Thank you, i have most of the components, but no Mb and cpu. What do you think i change my mind and go for 2700x? Or buy that i5 and later on upgrade to newer cpu, hopefully HT i7 in the future?
Dont mind the overall cost, its very off. Most of the components i got/will get for close to half price, that gpu went for 580usd+-. Only the CPU, MB and memory would be for the price listed
Motherboards for Intel 9th gen id go for z390 guaranteed to work out of the box. Previous 3xx series need a bios update. New stock of these boards would have the latest bios but a chance not if old stock so hard to know unless specified on the mobo box.
Ryzen 2700x will last longer and be more resourceful vs 9600k. Ryzen 3rd gen is almost here, like May. If rumours are true, IPC will be quite improved matching 9900k for less price.
Top Ryzen motherboards atm are B450 or higher end x470. 3rd gen will probably work on these boards with a bios update if interested but soon to be released are 5xx series. 2700x is excellent value and comes with a decent cooler. 9600k will still have higher fps (not by much) but won't reach high enough cpu usage to make your games stutter.
I always had intel, thats why i feel more comfortable going with iCPU, but that CPU usage in games is soooo much lower for 2700x, and in my country, i5 and 2700x go for the same price. Im really tilted now. You think games in the future will be more compatible with HT when intel has none (i9 is a fluke for the money)? Or should i wait for the new ryzen series?
Here is the list:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.06 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($126.63 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($699.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.11 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1746.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:33 EDT-0400
Probably near your budget range with still better components.
Can you provide the budget details of the build. What is the max you wanna spend?
Well, i got some components already. that 2080 is 150USD more then my 1080 Ti, so thats a nono.
Then i got that evo ssd, a hyper 212, HyperX 32gb 3200 for 140usd.
Also case and PSU are on the way. Only thing is the MB and CPU, because of posts above, im staring to lean towards ryzen 2700x and aorus x470 ultra gaming.
Games have been multi threaded for a while now. GTA5 loves more threads and so does Doom 2016, pretty much every game since benefits more cores and threads. I'd wait till Ryzen 3 and see the results. I still favor Intel personally, if it was me upgrading despite AMD doing well i would go for 8700k (for the threads), 9700k (without HT but has strong IPC vs the i5s) and preferably 9900k (combined strong IPC + HT), that's if i was going to continue with a 144Hz monitor, 100% cpu usage isn't fun.
All but one component is solid. Only doubt is the cpu depending on games you're looking at playing and at what desired refresh rate.
All but one component is solid. Only doubt is the cpu depending on games you're looking at playing and at what desired refresh rate.
Most games in 60-100fps in years to come. Im not a fan of 4k, and i even doubt upgrading to 1440p 144hz, currently on 1080 144hz.
i7 9700K is only marginally better in most benchmarks, and supposedly runs quite hotter.
Do you think that i5 9600k with OC will be bottleneck in future?
It's not really about resolution it's about how many frames a cpu can pre-render whilst still providing enough resources for other game cpu originated tasks like physics, AI, maps and multiplayer. 9600k is a decent fps performer but that's where the buck stops because it is so easily overworked from trying to prepare so many frames it is common for this cpu and 8600k (since they perform similar) to reach 100% usage unless you cap the fps to a level where it doesn't eat the cpu too much. This all depends on games though, cpu intensive games like Battlefield and Farcry, even Overwatch can cause high usages with these processors if fps is too high. Search 9600k high cpu usage and you'll come across many unhappy people.
9700k's IPC(instructions per clock) is stronger than the i5's and can handle higher frame rates much better. Since you'll be playing in 1080p, there's more frame pre-rendering to go with.
See this video, he explains the connection between resolution/refresh rate, frame rates and cpu usage.
Temperature wise, this case has decent air flow and if have a decent cooler like the Cryorig h7 or Noctua D15 instead of the Hyper 212 there will be no worry. Don't go for Artic Silver S5 if you're planning to, there's a too long cure period 200hrs. Go for instead Noctua nt-h1, no cure period and it performs better anyway. You'll get a tube if you go for a Noctua cooler. Noctua fans can be raised so there'll be plenty of room for dual channel ram since dimm slots are the outa 2nd and 4th slot from cpu socket.
It's not really about resolution it's about how many frames a cpu can pre-render whilst still providing enough resources for other game cpu originated tasks like physics, AI, maps and multiplayer. 9600k is a decent fps performer but that's where the buck stops because it is so easily overworked from trying to prepare so many frames it is common for this cpu and 8600k (since they perform similar) to reach 100% usage unless you cap the fps to a level where it doesn't eat the cpu too much. This all depends on games though, cpu intensive games like Battlefield and Farcry, even Overwatch can cause high usages with these processors if fps is too high. Search 9600k high cpu usage and you'll come across many unhappy people.
9700k's IPC(instructions per clock) is stronger than the i5's and can handle higher frame rates much better. Since you'll be playing in 1080p, there's more frame pre-rendering to go with.
See this video, he explains the connection between resolution/refresh rate, frame rates and cpu usage.
Temperature wise, this case has decent air flow and if have a decent cooler like the Cryorig h7 or Noctua D15 instead of the Hyper 212 there will be no worry. Don't go for Artic Silver S5 if you're planning to, there's a too long cure period 200hrs. Go for instead Noctua nt-h1, no cure period and it performs better anyway. You'll get a tube if you go for a Noctua cooler. Noctua fans can be raised so there'll be plenty of room for dual channel ram since dimm slots are the outa 2nd and 4th slot from cpu socket.
Tbh, i dont even remember when was the last time i played some high paced fps. Its singleplayer games, rpgs/jrpgs, rts, etc. I was able to play some newer games on oooold i7 in 100+fps, so i wasnt expecting i5 to be a problem for me. Also Hyper 212 is regarded as being able to cool down this i5 even at 5ghz+, so i dont think there will be problem with cooler. That 9700k is almost 40% more expensive then 9600k, and i dont think its worth for me.
You might be thinking, who doesnt want to upgrade to i7 but has 1080 Ti aorus extreme... well, i got it from store only opened, not used, with 4 year warranty for 550US. I wanted to go for rtx2070 before.
Also in FPS benchmarks, in all new games OC i5 is only 10fps lower then OC i7.
There are only bigger 1%fps drops, but i really dont mind those in singleplayer games.
I respect your opinion and wish you well. I've explained what to expect so it's upto you.
Here is the list:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($479.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-H GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($126.63 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1098.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2415.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 07:53 EDT-0400
For similar budget you can get way better performance and better quality build.
I respect your opinion and wish you well. I've explained what to expect so it's upto you.
Thank you, i have most of the components, but no Mb and cpu. What do you think i change my mind and go for 2700x? Or buy that i5 and later on upgrade to newer cpu, hopefully HT i7 in the future?
Here is the list:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($479.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-H GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($126.63 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1098.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2415.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 07:53 EDT-0400
For similar budget you can get way better performance and better quality build.
Dont mind the overall cost, its very off. Most of the components i got/will get for close to half price, that gpu went for 580usd+-. Only the CPU, MB and memory would be for the price listed
Motherboards for Intel 9th gen id go for z390 guaranteed to work out of the box. Previous 3xx series need a bios update. New stock of these boards would have the latest bios but a chance not if old stock so hard to know unless specified on the mobo box.
Ryzen 2700x will last longer and be more resourceful vs 9600k. Ryzen 3rd gen is almost here, like May. If rumours are true, IPC will be quite improved matching 9900k for less price.
Top Ryzen motherboards atm are B450 or higher end x470. 3rd gen will probably work on these boards with a bios update if interested but soon to be released are 5xx series. 2700x is excellent value and comes with a decent cooler. 9600k will still have higher fps (not by much) but won't reach high enough cpu usage to make your games stutter.
Motherboards for Intel 9th gen id go for z390 guaranteed to work out of the box. Previous 3xx series need a bios update. New stock of these boards would have the latest bios but a chance not if old stock so hard to know unless specified on the mobo box.
Ryzen 2700x will last longer and be more resourceful vs 9600k. Ryzen 3rd gen is almost here, like May. If rumours are true, IPC will be quite improved matching 9900k for less price.
Top Ryzen motherboards atm are B450 or higher end x470. 3rd gen will probably work on these boards with a bios update if interested but soon to be released are 5xx series. 2700x is excellent value and comes with a decent cooler. 9600k will still have higher fps (not by much) but won't reach high enough cpu usage to make your games stutter.
I always had intel, thats why i feel more comfortable going with iCPU, but that CPU usage in games is soooo much lower for 2700x, and in my country, i5 and 2700x go for the same price. Im really tilted now. You think games in the future will be more compatible with HT when intel has none (i9 is a fluke for the money)? Or should i wait for the new ryzen series?
Here is the list:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($135.06 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($126.63 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($699.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.11 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1746.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:33 EDT-0400
Probably near your budget range with still better components.
Can you provide the budget details of the build. What is the max you wanna spend?
Can you provide the budget details of the build. What is the max you wanna spend?
Well, i got some components already. that 2080 is 150USD more then my 1080 Ti, so thats a nono.
Then i got that evo ssd, a hyper 212, HyperX 32gb 3200 for 140usd.
Also case and PSU are on the way. Only thing is the MB and CPU, because of posts above, im staring to lean towards ryzen 2700x and aorus x470 ultra gaming.
I always had intel, thats why i feel more comfortable going with iCPU, but that CPU usage in games is soooo much lower for 2700x, and in my country, i5 and 2700x go for the same price. Im really tilted now. You think games in the future will be more compatible with HT when intel has none (i9 is a fluke for the money)? Or should i wait for the new ryzen series?
Games have been multi threaded for a while now. GTA5 loves more threads and so does Doom 2016, pretty much every game since benefits more cores and threads. I'd wait till Ryzen 3 and see the results. I still favor Intel personally, if it was me upgrading despite AMD doing well i would go for 8700k (for the threads), 9700k (without HT but has strong IPC vs the i5s) and preferably 9900k (combined strong IPC + HT), that's if i was going to continue with a 144Hz monitor, 100% cpu usage isn't fun.
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