[SOLVED] Please comment my hi-end gaming build

[Radek_Skrivan]

Hello,
I am trying my first really hi-end build and I just want to make sure that I use my budget right.
Please let me know what you think about this as a gaming-focused build:

Complete Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GfFXHB
CPU: Intel i7-9700K
GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Ti Ventus
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2
Power: EVGA 750
Case: Fractal Design Define R6

I am aware that many recommend Ryzen for gaming due to the higher number of cores. I guess I am just too stuck in my Nvidia + Intel mentality.
That being said if there is a strong argument I will reconsider.
I am not an overclocker so maybe the i7-9700K is useless for me and I should go with simple i7-9700? Really the only OC I have ever done was pushing a button in
MSI Afterburner.

Kindest regards
Radek

 

[logainofhades]

Only problem I see is lack of CPU cooler. The 9700k does boost a bit higher, than the 9700, so that is something to consider. Ryzen 3700x would be better multitasking wise, and still game quite well. It really depends on resolution, and whether you are into any kind of streaming, or content creation.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($363.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Reeven Justice 82.1 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($45.93 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS GP Video Card ($1049.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ ModMyMods)
Total: $2014.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-14 12:32 EDT-0400

 

[jeremyj_83]

There are a couple reasons to go Ryzen. One is price/performance with the 3700X & 9700K being virtually identical, within 5% of each other, in gaming performance but the 3700X is 10% cheaper. Secondly the 3700X uses about 1/2 to 1/3 the power of the 9700K so that means you can get by with a lower wattage PSU. Third is the far superior multithreaded performance.

Here is an example of a Ryzen build, that will is more expensive than your build, had a larger SSD for games and a separate SSD for OS & Applications. The RAM also has a lower latency.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($333.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS GP Video Card ($1049.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2031.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-14 12:37 EDT-0400

Staying with Intel I would change the RAM since Intel isn't a sensitive to RAM, go with the same dual SSD, and change the PSU to one of equal quality that is just less expensive.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($364.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS GP Video Card ($1049.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2066.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-14 12:46 EDT-0400

 

[Karadjgne]

The 9700k does not have a stock cpu cooler. You have absolutely no option, you must get one somehow. That said, the 9700k can easily pull 200w, so budget coolers are also absolutely off the table too, or you'll easily be seeing extreme temps you will not be happy with during any cpu intensive application/game. You'll need to be looking at either 240mm aios or better, or large/twin tower aircoolers such as the Darkrock/pro 4, NH-D15S, NH-U12A, NH-U14S, Scythe Fuma 2 etc.

The Evga 750w G3 isn't bad at all, but there are better, better suited, that cost less,
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.79 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)

 

[logainofhades]

I have a friend using a stock 9700k, with a Hyper 212 red, with 0 issues. If you do not overclock, you do not need a big/expensive cooler.

 

[Radek_Skrivan]

There are a couple reasons to go Ryzen. One is price/performance with the 3700X & 9700K being virtually identical, within 5% of each other, in gaming performance but the 3700X is 10% cheaper. Secondly the 3700X uses about 1/2 to 1/3 the power of the 9700K so that means you can get by with a lower wattage PSU. Third is the far superior multithreaded performance.
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Thank you jeremyj_83. I will have a look at your Ryzen build closer, I may stick with my original SSD and spend the money on the water cooling solution maybe. Truth is that the budget is reaching a limit of what is affordable for me so a good price/performance ratio is a very strong argument.

 

[Radek_Skrivan]

The Evga 750w G3 isn't bad at all, but there are better, better suited, that cost less,
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.79 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Thank you Karadjgne. This is exactly the advice I was looking for. As for the cooling I am still playing with the idea of going water for both CPU and GPU, but I am most grateful for the PS suggestion. I will definitely check both of them.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Thank you jeremyj_83. I will have a look at your Ryzen build closer, I may stick with my original SSD and spend the money on the water cooling solution maybe. Truth is that the budget is reaching a limit of what is affordable for me so a good price/performance ratio is a very strong argument.

If you go with the Ryzen you won't need the water cooling. The 3700X is a 65W TDP CPU and sticks close that that TDP. It also comes with a decent cooler so you can use that money on a different part of the build. If you decide to stick with 1 SSD just get the 2TB 660p. You will never notice any difference in performance between it and the 970 EVO and you will have double the storage.