Question Please critique my upcoming build before I finish it....

SkruDe

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Hello Tommy's,

I've always found Tom's Hardware so incredibly helpful, so I'm back asking another question in search of some feedback.

Please see my in-progress build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PwNC8r

Of the items on this parts list, I currently have already bought:
-CPU
-GPU
-PSU
-M.2 1 TB (OS)
-M.2 2TB (Gaming)

I have not bought yet the:
-RAM
-MOBO
-CPU COOLER
-CASE
-SSD 4TB (Bulk Storage)
-HDD 14TB (Backups)


Within the next week I intend on finishing off this build and having everything bought and in my possession, or on its way to my home.

The rig is primarily going to be used for:
-1440p gaming
-streaming
-small overclocking (nothing pushing any limits)
-some Navisworks 3D viewing

The PC Part Picker clears me on compatibility. The nice diagrams also show me I'm good with connections and ports.

The 7000D case I intend to buy has a dark tint on it, to hide some mismatched components but still lets some RGB through.

Anything glaring stick out I should reconsider? Budget can not go over $4,000 before tax.

Thank you!
 

Why_Me

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That's a lot of money sunk into the board, cpu cooler, psu and case imo when you could trim some of the fat off that build and put the savings towards a better gpu such as a 3080 or 3080 Ti.

Here's a few examples.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119507
ASUS Prime Z690-A LGA $279.99

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z690-A/

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-z690-aorus-pro/p/N82E16813145345
GIGABYTE Z690 AORUS PRO $309.99

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-AORUS-PRO-rev-1x#kf

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144484
MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI $379.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z690-CARBON-WIFI

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 A-RGB + Intel LGA1700 Upgrade Kit $102.99

https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-ii-performance-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-000Z-00086
LIAN LI LANCOOL II MESH C PERFORMANCE $120.99


https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-platinum-se-sf-1000f14mp-v2-1000w/p/1HU-024C-00020
Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W 80+ Platinum Modular Power Supply $249.99
 
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I would do something like this:

A more reasonable CPU cooler. DDR4 motherboard, 4400 Trident Z RGB

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ GameStop)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($286.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Red Plus 14 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card ($1239.07 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 7000D AIRFLOW ATX Full Tower Case ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $3815.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-24 13:54 EDT-0400
 

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Well, that one was sticking to your ASUS theme, but ASUS still has the more expensive GPUs at the moment. EVGA FTW3 is a very RGB GPU.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ GameStop)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($286.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Red Plus 14 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($1117.99 @ EVGA)
Case: Corsair 7000D AIRFLOW ATX Full Tower Case ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($94.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $3694.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-24 13:57 EDT-0400
 

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Hello Tommy's,

I've always found Tom's Hardware so incredibly helpful, so I'm back asking another question in search of some feedback.

Please see my in-progress build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PwNC8r

Of the items on this parts list, I currently have already bought:
-CPU
-GPU
-PSU
-M.2 1 TB (OS)
-M.2 2TB (Gaming)

I have not bought yet the:
-RAM
-MOBO
-CPU COOLER
-CASE
-SSD 4TB (Bulk Storage)
-HDD 14TB (Backups)


Within the next week I intend on finishing off this build and having everything bought and in my possession, or on its way to my home.

The rig is primarily going to be used for:
-1440p gaming
-streaming
-small overclocking (nothing pushing any limits)
-some Navisworks 3D viewing

The PC Part Picker clears me on compatibility. The nice diagrams also show me I'm good with connections and ports.

The 7000D case I intend to buy has a dark tint on it, to hide some mismatched components but still lets some RGB through.

Anything glaring stick out I should reconsider? Budget can not go over $4,000 before tax.

Thank you!
About 1200 wasted money with no performance increase. You don't need a SSD for bulk storage.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor | $369.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | NZXT Kraken X73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $141.40 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $259.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $174.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $104.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $219.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $144.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Red Plus 14 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $279.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card | $699.99 @ Amazon
Case | Phanteks Eclipse P500A ATX Mid Tower Case | $149.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $134.99 @ Amazon
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $94.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2776.28
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-24 14:01 EDT-0400 |
 
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Great! Lots of great stuff here. It would be too bulky and extensive to quote everyone's response so I just wanted to throw out a few quick comments and questions.

First off, to @Why_Me , I think I will be substituting the Z690-E with the Z690-A you mentioned. I think that is a good substitute to "trim some fat" as you say. It has no WiFi, so I'll need to run an Ethernet cable to my office. Something I've actually been meaning to do for awhile, maybe this will get me to finally do that and stop being lazy.

Secondly, in effort to save on the CPU cooler, the Arctic option looks good!! Just curious, thoughts on going more than 240 on the Arctic cooler? Like a 280?

Some other comments, I've always gone Asus, I forgot to mention that. Yeah, sometimes (or maybe most of the time) I pay a premium, but I've never hard an Asus product go bad on me (fingers crossed) in 10 years, and that is why I continue to prefer their products. It's just a comfort thing for me.

No SSD for bulk storage, okay, good idea there too. Instead, opt for a 7200RPM 4TB WD Black on that front. I will do that too most likely.

That LIAN LI Lancool case, I like it. My only concern, just from the pictures, is PSU space. Looks a little cramped, like I might had to take out the hard drive cages. Not sure. But for now, I'll swap that in.

That brings us to the DDR4 vs DDR5... lol. Sorry, didn't want to make this thread about that. I am leaning DDR5. But, that could change.... I'll look into it more.

So far trimmed $750. Could be more depending on my DDR5 or 4 decision.

Here is updated list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPX6Q6
 
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Why_Me

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Great! Lots of great stuff here. It would be too bulky and extensive to quote everyone's response so I just wanted to throw out a few quick comments and questions.

First off, to @Why_Me , I think I will be substituting the Z690-E with the Z690-A you mentioned. I think that is a good substitute to "trim some fat" as you say. It has no WiFi, so I'll need to run an Ethernet cable to my office. Something I've actually been meaning to do for awhile, maybe this will get me to finally do that and stop being lazy.

Secondly, in effort to save on the CPU cooler, the Arctic option looks good!! Just curious, thoughts on going more than 240 on the Arctic cooler? Like a 280?

Some other comments, I've always gone Asus, I forgot to mention that. Yeah, sometimes (or maybe most of the time) I pay a premium, but I've never hard an Asus product go bad on me (fingers crossed) in 10 years, and that is why I continue to prefer their products. It's just a comfort thing for me.

No SSD for bulk storage, okay, good idea there too. Instead, opt for a 7200RPM 4TB WD Black on that front. I will do that too most likely.

That LIAN LI Lancool case, I like it. My only concern, just from the pictures, is PSU space. Looks a little cramped, like I might had to take out the hard drive cages. Not sure. But for now, I'll swap that in.

That brings us to the DDR4 vs DDR5... lol. Sorry, didn't want to make this thread about that. I am leaning DDR5. But, that could change.... I'll look into it more.

So far trimmed $750. Could be more depending on my DDR5 or 4 decision.

Here is updated list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPX6Q6
240 AIO will work fine. BTW that Lian Li case is a builders dream. The 240 fits at the top of the case.
 
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ASUS isn't exactly known for their PSUs. I'm sure it is fine, but it isn't $300 fine. (I would not be surprised if that neat RGB corner ends up right behind the support pillar, a long PSU)

You can get a 1000W Titanium for less:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bv38TW/evga-power-supply-220t21000x1

Platinum for $200

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6PhFf7/evga-p5-1000-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-p5-1000-x1

And a PSU actually sized to your system would be 850W. No need for a 1000W with an i7 and a 3070Ti.
 

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ASUS isn't exactly known for their PSUs. I'm sure it is fine, but it isn't $300 fine. (I would not be surprised if that neat RGB corner ends up right behind the support pillar, a long PSU)

You can get a 1000W Titanium for less:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bv38TW/evga-power-supply-220t21000x1

Platinum for $200

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6PhFf7/evga-p5-1000-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-p5-1000-x1

And a PSU actually sized to your system would be 850W. No need for a 1000W with an i7 and a 3070Ti.
Thank you @Eximo for your help as well! The good thing about that PSU I bought is... well... I have until tonight to cancel it. It is an Amazon order, so I still have time to change my mind about it. But, to explain why I chose the 1000W over the 850W, as I did contemplate it, and the reason I did choose the 1k was due to my intention to do some overclocking. Like I mentioned, nothing pushing limits of my hardware, but I know overclocking really spikes the wattage, so I just wanted to make sure I was covered. The CPU O.C. more so than the GPU.
 

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Thank you @Eximo for your help as well! The good thing about that PSU I bought is... well... I have until tonight to cancel it. It is an Amazon order, so I still have time to change my mind about it. But, to explain why I chose the 1000W over the 850W, as I did contemplate it, and the reason I did choose the 1k was due to my intention to do some overclocking. Like I mentioned, nothing pushing limits of my hardware, but I know overclocking really spikes the wattage, so I just wanted to make sure I was covered. The CPU O.C. more so than the GPU.
You won't even come close to taxing that PSU even with both the CPU and GPU overclocked as much as is reasonable. There are better, cheaper 1000W supplies even if you needed one. You would have to look at modified BIOS and shunt mods to get the GPU over 400W, and the CPU is going to top out in the low 200W. Which by all accounts, it is better to underclock Intel, they don't perform significantly better at such high output. They are effectively already overclocked in their boost profiles. And they are already binned so the best CPU cores are found in the i9.

I have a less power hungry CPU, but a bigger GPU, total system is about 550W under a load.
 

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You won't even come close to taxing that PSU even with both the CPU and GPU overclocked as much as is reasonable. There are better, cheaper 1000W supplies even if you needed one. You would have to look at modified BIOS and shunt mods to get the GPU over 400W, and the CPU is going to top out in the low 200W. Which by all accounts, it is better to underclock Intel, they don't perform significantly better at such high output. They are effectively already overclocked in their boost profiles. And they are already binned so the best CPU cores are found in the i9.

I have a less power hungry CPU, but a bigger GPU, total system is about 550W under a load.
Excellent! Thanks for the explanation and information. I will modify my PSU selection and reduce to 850W, is another effort to trim the fat. In addition, looking at the case, you make a good point, the RGB corner does look like it will fall behind the pillar.

For me, I'd like to have the most reliable PSU possible. I'll pay extra for a high quality tier PSU. In the 850W catagory, what would suffice? You've thrown out a couple different options and admittedly, PSU isn't my knowledge wheel house.
 

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OP arctic silver 5? Grow up, JK. Thermal paste has come a long way. If you want AS5... you'll be fine and actually better off with whatever cooler master is providing with the updated cooler, providing you go that route.
Hmm.. your comment may have went over my head. You are saying there is better options? It's been a long time since I built a PC.....


Anyways, an update....
I've decided NOT to go the DDR5 route. Instead, I shall go DDR4. So my MoBo and RAM has changed. I've picked my RAM, the G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3600 CL16.

As for the MoBo, I'm torn between three options....
1.) ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 ($350)
2.) TUF Gaming Z690-PLUS WiFi D4 ($290)
3.) Prime Z690-P WiFi D4 ($240)

Looks like better VRM on the Strix
Looks like the Prime only comes with 1 m.2 heatsink, also ethernet is Realtek and not Intel.
None of these DDR4 MoBo's have 6E Wifi, it's all just 6. Not sure how big of a difference. My router is a 6E at home.
2 More 6GBs Sata ports for the Strix, compared to the other 2 (6 vs 4)
Strix appears to have better sound
Strix has a couple back panel O.C. QoL buttons I'll never use.
Strix has an upgraded software for tuning.


So for the time being, for now, not set in stone yet, but I selected the ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 MoBo and placed it in my PC Parts List....
Updated here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Cg9C6

I am almost $1,100 cheaper now than my first, original post!

EDIT!!!! For some reason PC Part Picker stopped showing the price of my GPU. It was $700
 
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Hmm.. your comment may have went over my head. You are saying there is better options? It's been a long time since I built a PC.....


Anyways, an update....
I've decided NOT to go the DDR5 route. Instead, I shall go DDR4. So my MoBo and RAM has changed. I've picked my RAM, the G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3600 CL16.

As for the MoBo, I'm torn between three options....
1.) ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 ($350)
2.) TUF Gaming Z690-PLUS WiFi D4 ($290)
3.) Prime Z690-P WiFi D4 ($240)

Looks like better VRM on the Strix
Looks like the Prime only comes with 1 m.2 heatsink, also ethernet is Realtek and not Intel.
None of these DDR4 MoBo's have 6E Wifi, it's all just 6. Not sure how big of a difference. My router is a 6E at home.
2 More 6GBs Sata ports for the Strix, compared to the other 2 (6 vs 4)
Strix appears to have better sound
Strix has a couple back panel O.C. QoL buttons I'll never use.
Strix has an upgraded software for tuning.


So for the time being, for now, not set in stone yet, but I selected the ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 MoBo and placed it in my PC Parts List....
Updated here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Cg9C6

I am almost $1,100 cheaper now than my first, original post!

EDIT!!!! For some reason PC Part Picker stopped showing the price of my GPU. It was $700
With that much cash trimmed down, wouldn't it be worth it to shell out an extra 200-300$ for an RTX 3080 which across the board is 30% better?
 
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If you build just for performance without the bling factor, you can actually save a lot more. RGB looks good initially, but after a while it just becomes pale and adds to heat and power...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor | $369.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler | $109.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $223.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $144.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $219.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Red Plus 14 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $279.29 @ Amazon
Video Card | MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB GAMING Z TRIO Video Card | $849.99 @ GameStop
Case | Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case | $139.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $109.99 @ Newegg Sellers
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $94.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2542.16
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-25 02:41 EDT-0400 |

This will give you the same performance while saving a lot of cash.
 

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With that much cash trimmed down, wouldn't it be worth it to shell out an extra 200-300$ for an RTX 3080 which across the board is 30% better?
With the extra money I saved, I am going to put it towards a monitor. My current monitor, is a 27" 1440p 60Hz.... I think this new build will allow me to have a monitor that will show more than 60FPS.... lol. So, I'll be taking a look at 1440p monitors to upgrade with.
 
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Why_Me

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Granted this isn't exactly what you want aesthetics wise, but this gives you an idea of how to cut cost, step up into a better gpu and as @Hellfire13 pointed out ... no ARGB = no added heat.

https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-ii-performance-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-000Z-00086
LIAN LI LANCOOL II MESH C PERFORMANCE $120.99

https://www.antonline.com/Evga/Computers/Video_Cards/Graphic_Cards/1450434
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 LHR Graphics Card + EVGA SuperNOVA 850W GA 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply $999.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145392
GIGABYTE Z690 GAMING X $219.99 Save: $30.00 (12%)

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700f-core-i7-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118359
Intel Core i7-12700F $312.99 + $5 off w/ promo code MDSBS2446

https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-AK620-High-Performance-Dual-Tower-Dissipation/dp/B09CSXS3X4
DeepCool AK620 CPU Cooler $64.99

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820236828
CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 $269.99 + $10 off w/ promo code MDSBS24337

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S1T0B/dp/B07MFZY2F2/
SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 NVMe Internal SSD $104.99

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S2T0B/dp/B07MFZXR1B/
SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus 2TB M.2 NVMe Internal SSD $219.99

https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-windows-11-home-usb/p/N82E16832351748
Microsoft Windows 11 Home USB $139.00

Total: $2437.92 *including promo codes


https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-GAMING-X-DDR4-rev-10#kf

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review

https://global.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler/2021/13067.shtml

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134592/intel-core-i712700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

i7 12700 / 12700F gaming benchmarks.

 

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