[SOLVED] Please help Gtx 960 and 1070Ti

[masterfalcon3000]

Specs : i5 6600 3.50 - Evga g3 750 watt - 8 gb ram 2133 mhz - 1440p monitor

i bought a gtx 1070 Ti and tested it on fortnite for example : at 1080p low settings i get 100-130 FPS with 30-40 GPU usage and 70-80 CPU Usage

At 1440p i get 130-150 FPS low settings With 50-60 GPU usage and 70-80 CPU Usage

The Shocking results My old gtx 960 i can get 120 Fps on 1440p low settings and 130-140 Fps on 1080p Both with 99% GPU Usage and 60-80 CPU usage


Notice : I made a test with 720p and really low resolution scale and my CPU Went to 90% Usage and the GPU is low like 30-40 for both cards and i get 150-200 FPS


1-What is the problem with this ?? did i just wasted 500$ ??
2-If i upgraded my CPU to something like i7 6700 or i7 7700 this will solve the problem with gtx 1070Ti ??

What should i do in my case ? Upgrade CPU or Replace the gtx 1070Ti ??
How people getting +200 Fps Stable with same specs on youtube ?

 

[pete_101]

Sounds like your CPU is the issue. What a better graphics card allows for is higher settings while still running the same frame rate. If the aim is frame rate, regardless of the graphics settings, then you need a fast CPU, so upgrading to an i7 would be the best option.

 

[masterfalcon3000]

Sounds like your CPU is the issue. What a better graphics card allows for is higher settings while still running the same frame rate. If the aim is frame rate, regardless of the graphics settings, then you need a fast CPU, so upgrading to an i7 would be the best option.

I do like to play competitive games on low settings and my goal is to get stable +160 Frames , Do you suggest to get a gtx 1060 with i7 6700 or even a i7 7700 , By this i will get stable +160 FPS on low settings 1440p

Thanks for your fast reply

 

[pete_101]

Sounds like your CPU is the issue. What a better graphics card allows for is higher settings while still running the same frame rate. If the aim is frame rate, regardless of the graphics settings, then you need a fast CPU, so upgrading to an i7 would be the best option.

I do like to play competitive games on low settings and my goal is to get stable +160 Frames , Do you suggest to get a gtx 1060 with i7 6700 or even a i7 7700 , By this i will get stable +160 FPS on low settings 1440p

Thanks for your fast reply

If you're going to upgrade, the 7700 makes more sense than the 6700, but you'll need to make sure your motherboard has a recent BIOS version to run the later generation CPU.

If getting the CPU upgrade means returning the 1070ti for a 1060, I would still do it given what you say your old 960 could do. However, for 1440p gaming I would usually say a 1070ti is far better than a 1060.....it all depends if you're happy with low settings, but you say you are.

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from masterfalcon3000 : "CPU Bottleneck or Normal ?"

Specs : i5 6600 3.50 - Evga g3 750 watt - 8 gb ram 2133 mhz - 1440p monitor

i bought a gtx 1070 Ti and tested it on fortnite for example : at 1080p low settings i get 100-130 FPS with 30-40 GPU usage and 70-80 CPU Usage

At 1440p i get 130-150 FPS low settings With 50-60 GPU usage and 70-80 CPU Usage

The Shocking results My old gtx 960 i can get 120 Fps on 1440p low settings and 130-140 Fps on 1080p Both with 99% GPU Usage and 60-80 CPU usage


Notice : I made a test with 720p and really low resolution scale and my CPU Went to 90% Usage and the GPU is low like 30-40 for both cards and i get 150-200 FPS


1-What is the problem with this ?? did i just wasted 500$ ??
2-If i upgraded my CPU to something like i7 6700 or i7 7700 this will solve the problem with gtx 1070Ti ??

What should i do in my case ? Upgrade CPU or Replace the gtx 1070Ti ??

How people getting +200 Fps Stable with same specs on youtube ?

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from masterfalcon3000 : "Gtx 1070Ti Should i return it ?"

So i bought Gtx 1070 Ti Msi Duke Yesterday upgraded from gtx 960 , and i tested for example fortnite on 1440p low settings am getting low fps 80/100 same as 1080p also low settings , So i enabled Super dynamic resolution from Nvidia control panel and and set the resolution to 5120x2280 and got +150 Fps , i was able to play with gtx 960 in 1080p low +150 Fps

1- Is this a bottleneck ?
2-My GPU is OK or it's failure and i should replace it ?

Specs :
I5 6600k 3.50 , Can't overclock it because motherboard
Power supply : Evga G3 750 Watt
MB : Asus h170-Pro
16 GB

Notice : I did all what needed to achieve High usage and get maximum performance for the GPU [Power management - Bios update - Windows update - Drivers ,, Etc ]

Whats your CPU usage? That could be the limiting factor.

Cpu usage 60-70%
GPU - 30_40% on 1080p and 1440p
goes to 90-99 in 2280p and sometimes drops

Should i return this gpu and get another one or tgis is nroaml ??

My GPU is good or i have to replace it ??

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from masterfalcon3000 : "Gtx 1070 Ti Low Usage"

so i upgraded form gtx 960 to MSI 1070 Ti Duke and tried to test games with it [Fornite - R6 - battlefield 1] for example game like fornite should run with high fps with gtx 1070 Ti , But i get 70 to 80 fps with 60% - 70% gpu usage and 80% cpu usage with 1440p and tried with 1080p i have the same issue i was playing with gtx 960 on 1080p and get +120 Fps on low settings

I tried to benchmark gtx 1070 Ti with Heaven + Valley Benchmark and get 99% Gpu usage so this is a good sign and i get +100 Fps on ultra 1440p

I also downloaded the latest NVIDIA driver + updated windows + dx + visual basic .. etc

I got this card yesterday , Does this GPU have any issue , I mean should i replace it or this is normal ?


My Specs : Asus H170-Pro - i5 6600 -


Thanks in advance

Usually if i understood correctly, if you are using lower resolution where card can max out anything and still not be used 100%, cpu is bottleneck cause cpu lags behind, if you used 4k gpu would be 100% usage and there would not be any issues that you experience.

Ram size?

And have you tried DSR (superesolution) to try upscaling to 4K and see if the things changes? Its withn nvdia 3D global settings in control panel.

Usually if i understood correctly, if you are using lower resolution where card can max out anything and still not be used 100%, cpu is bottleneck cause cpu lags behind, if you used 4k gpu would be 100% usage and there would not be any issues that you experience.

Ram size?

And have you tried DSR (superesolution) to try upscaling to 4K and see if the things changes? Its withn nvdia 3D global settings in control panel.

I do have 16 Gb of ram , The question for now is my GPU that i bought is good ? or should i replace it ??

in fornite for example The cpu usage is 70-80% so there is no bottleneck in this case so why i'm getting low gpu usage and low frames ?? I don't understand , my gtx 960 performs better than gtx 1070 TI

The issue is that your CPU "Lags" behind 1070TI on 1080p and 1440P cause it has no headroom, while 1070 renders frames your CPU lags behind thats why you see lower frame.
For instance if you were on 4K your CPU would have less usage and higher usage on 1070, thats from my understanding, I might be right, I might be wrong.

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from masterfalcon3000 : "From 960 to 1070ti bottleneck ?"

So finally i have money after 4 years , so i have gtx 960 + i5 6600 , So i decided to buy a gtx 1070Ti it's not shipped yet , So i tested the gtx 1070ti + i5 6600 on bottleneck website found that there is almost 30% bottleneck

The question is will i be able see higher FPS with 1070 Ti on games more than gtx 960 that doesn't bottleneck with i5 6600 ??


i will upgrade my cpu next year

you will get more fps, depends on what you want to run. You can't have some sort of general 30% bottleneck, it is dependent on the specific game you play at the moment. technically you will always have a bottleneck no matter what hardware you choose and the bottleneck in this scenario can't be too big since generally a i7 920 for example can best be paired with a 1060 and a i7 2600k can be paired with a 1080 ti and even if it bottlenecks slightly it will get the most performance. My point being that a i5 6600 is well enough for a 1070 ti given that you have sufficient ram.

What's your monitor's resolution? You shouldn't have any problem, your CPU is still pretty good and I usually don't trust those bottleneck websites. Generally speaking there should be a bottleneck, but it should be minimal and at low resolutions. At Full HD+ you should't really experience any bottleneck. It may be there but it should me meaningless. Getting 100 FPS in a game where you should be getting 105-110 isn't really an issue. Having said all that there is only one case where it may matter. If you do have a fast monitor (144+Hz), you may not be able to max it without a better CPU, but even then the GPU should almost always considered the real bottleneck that prevents you from reaching much higher FPS numbers.

Finally yes you should really see higher FPS with the 1070 Ti. I should be more than 2.5x faster than the GTX 960 even with your CPU. Good luck.

You Absolutely will get more FPS than your GTX 960 in most games, Meanwhile with Upcoming Games or with CPU Demanding Titles like for Example BF1 / BF V, AC Origins and few more games that make use of more than 4 cores and Multi-threading your GTX 1070 Ti will be Limited by your CPU, Mostly not in a big way Tho. So you can still play those games just with some tinkering on Settings(Lowering Graphics or Resolutions and Disabling some settings).

 

[rgd1101]

Please stick with 1 thread, don't spam the forum

 

[masterfalcon3000]

Sounds like your CPU is the issue. What a better graphics card allows for is higher settings while still running the same frame rate. If the aim is frame rate, regardless of the graphics settings, then you need a fast CPU, so upgrading to an i7 would be the best option.

I do like to play competitive games on low settings and my goal is to get stable +160 Frames , Do you suggest to get a gtx 1060 with i7 6700 or even a i7 7700 , By this i will get stable +160 FPS on low settings 1440p

Thanks for your fast reply

If you're going to upgrade, the 7700 makes more sense than the 6700, but you'll need to make sure your motherboard has a recent BIOS version to run the later generation CPU.

If getting the CPU upgrade means returning the 1070ti for a 1060, I would still do it given what you say your old 960 could do. However, for 1440p gaming I would usually say a 1070ti is far better than a 1060.....it all depends if you're happy with low settings, but you say you are.

My motherboard is Asus h170-Pro , Can it run it , it's LGA 1151 , Please search on my motherboard and tell me if it can run i7 7700

Thanks in advance

 

[pete_101]

My motherboard is Asus h170-Pro , Can it run it , it's LGA 1151 , Please search on my motherboard and tell me if it can run i7 7700

Thanks in advance

Yes, your motherboard will be able to run it as the 6th and 7th gen Intel used the same 1151 socket. However the earlier 6th gen (which you have) need the later BIOS to run 7th gen, so depending on when you got your board (before are after the 7th gen was released), it may or may not already have a compatible BIOS. The best thing to do is update it to the latest version BEFORE taking the old CPU out, just to be safe.