Question Please help: Intel Core i9-11900KF with a H510M H V2 motherboard

[Alex 1847]

Hello! I just bought a new computer and I'm a bit worried that this motherboard is not suited for my processor: Intel Core i9-11900KF (64 GB RAM) or for my graphics card: RTX 3060 (12GB RAM).

I bough this computer so I could do 3D sculpting and animation in Blender, and for gaming; and when I say gaming I mean: Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2, Dead Space Remake, Resident Evil 4 Remake, etc.

I was expecting a B560 motherboard, which from what I've read, would be much better suited for an I7-11700K processor (these were the specifications of the computer I wanted to buy), but the computer I received has a a different motherboard and this different processor.


I tried talking to the seller I bought it from, telling him the H510M H is a weaker motherboard compared to the B560 but he cut me short saying I'm mistaken, that the difference between them is negligible and I shouldn't worry.
I'm not that tech savy but from what I've read, wouldn't a H510M H motherboard hamper performance on an I9-119KF and a RTX 3060? Wouldn't it hamper perfomance on a i7 - 11700K as well?

 

[COLGeek]

Hello! I just bought a new computer and I'm a bit worried that this motherboard is not suited for my processor: Intel Core i9-11900KF (64 GB RAM) or for my graphics card: RTX 3060 (12GB RAM).

I bough this computer so I could do 3D sculpting and animation in Blender, and for gaming; and when I say gaming I mean: Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2, Dead Space Remake, Resident Evil 4 Remake, etc.

I was expecting a B560 motherboard, which from what I've read, would be much better suited for an I7-11700K processor (these were the specifications of the computer I wanted to buy), but the computer I received has a a different motherboard and this different processor.


I tried talking to the seller I bought it from, telling him the H510M H is a weaker motherboard compared to the B560 but he cut me short saying I'm mistaken, that the difference between them is negligible and I shouldn't worry.
I'm not that tech savvy but from what I've read, wouldn't a H510M H motherboard hamper performance on an I9-119KF and a RTX 3060? Wouldn't it hamper performance on a i7 - 11700K as well?

In many ways, performance will be similar.

Is this the one you have?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H510M-H-V2-rev-10#kf

If you expected and paid for a different CPU and motherboard, I would not be happy with either downgrade. From where did you purchase this system?

 

[Alex 1847]

In many ways, performance will be similar.

Is this the one you have?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H510M-H-V2-rev-10#kf

If you expected and paid for a different CPU and motherboard, I would not be happy with either downgrade. From where did you purchase this system?

Yes, the one in the link is the exact motherboard he put instead of the B560.
And he put a i9-11900kf instead of the 17-11700k (which was the processor in the description of the product I was buying).

So he downgraded the motherboard but upgraded the processor, and it makes no sense to me.
Which is why I am worried that my unit will not be able to perform well and will overheat.

I bought the computer from the biggest site in my country (Romania) that sells electronics and other products: eMAG.

 

[artk2219]

Yes, the one in the link is the exact motherboard he put instead of the B560.
And he put a i9-11900kf instead of the 17-11700k (which was the processor in the description of the product I was buying).

So he downgraded the motherboard but upgraded the processor, and it makes no sense to me.
Which is why I am worried that my unit will not be able to perform well and will overheat.

I bought the computer from the biggest site in my country (Romania) that sells electronics and other products: eMAG.

While its not an ideal pairing, the cpu is on the motherboards support list, so it has at least been validated for it. Does it have a warranty that comes with it?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H510M-H-V2-rev-10/support#support-cpu

 

[geofelt]

What is the make/model of the H510 motherboard offered?
H510 is the cheapest of possible motherboards for a I9-11900KF.
Not only can it not overclock the K, but the motherboard likely does not have any worthwhile vrm cooling.
Here are what is included in a H510 chipset:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1200
To some extent, the seller is correct in that the differences between H510 and B560 are not likely to be relevant to you.

But, you probably should be looking at a better quality motherboard, regardless.

I7-11700K would be a comparable performer, with the added advantage of integrated graphics.
Integrated graphics includes quick sync which may be advantage to you:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/tools/vpl/overview.html#gs.5d2qtv

 

[COLGeek]

I would not Overclock that combo. At stock speeds, it should be okay.

 

[Alex 1847]

While its not an ideal pairing, the cpu is on the motherboards support list, so its at least been validated for it. Does it have a warranty that comes with it?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H510M-H-V2-rev-10/support#support-cpu

I know both cpus are on the motherboard's support list.
But doesn't this motherboard slow down processors like i7 and 19 in 3d rendering and gaming? Doesn't it lead to high temperatures? The unit has only 1 fan, and 2 glass pannels. This is what I'm worried about.

The whole system comes with a waranty of 2 years, not the specific components.

 

[COLGeek]

This sounds like a poorly designed system. Airflow sounds mediocre at best.

It will only slow down if it gets too hot and throttles itself.

What make/model is the case this is all housed in?

 

[geofelt]

Yes, the one in the link is the exact motherboard he put instead of the B560.
And he put a i9-11900kf instead of the 17-11700k (which was the processor in the description of the product I was buying).

So he downgraded the motherboard but upgraded the processor, and it makes no sense to me.
Which is why I am worried that my unit will not be able to perform well and will overheat.

I bought the computer from the biggest site in my country (Romania) that sells electronics and other products: eMAG.

Not only was the motherboard downgraded, but the processor was also.
Not only did you not get integrated graphics, but the passmark performance numbers are almost exactly the same.
I7-11700K 16 25162/3460
i9-11900k 16 25594/3462

 

[Alex 1847]

What is the make/model of the H510 motherboard offered?
H510 is the cheapest of possible motherboards for a I9-11900KF.
Not only can it not overclock the K, but the motherboard likely does not have any worthwhile vrm cooling.
Here are what is included in a H510 chipset:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1200
To some extent, the seller is correct in that the differences between H510 and B560 are not likely to be relevant to you.

But, you probably should be looking at a better quality motherboard, regardless.

I7-11700K would be a comparable performer, with the added advantage of integrated graphics.
Integrated graphics includes quick sync which may be advantage to you:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/tools/vpl/overview.html#gs.5d2qtv

It's H510M H V2 IntelH470/Socket1200/rev.1.0 Micro ATX
I can't look at any other motherboards except the B560 since that was what was listed first.

When it came to the specifications, the listed motherboards were, in this order:
Intel B560
Intel H510

As I said, I'm not tech savy, but I though (after reading about both of them) that the motherboard would be the B560. That's why I picked this specific configuration in the first place, as I can't really change anything when it comes to it, it's set.

 

[Alex 1847]

This sounds like a poorly designed system. Airflow sounds mediocre at best.

It will only slow down if it gets too hot and throttles itself.

What make/model is the case this is all housed in?

Airflow is one of the main things I'm worried about. The case is Thermaltake with aluminum and tempered glass

 

[COLGeek]

Airflow is one of the main things I'm worried about. The case is Thermaltake with aluminum and tempered glass

Does it have any front fans? And, are you using the OEM Intel CPU cooler?

 

[Alex 1847]

Not only was the motherboard downgraded, but the processor was also.
Not only did you not get integrated graphics, but the passmark performance numbers are almost exactly the same.
I7-11700K 16 25162/3460
i9-11900k 16 25594/3462

Yes, that too. I looked at the passmarks and saw that the 2 of them are almost the same in terms of performance for most things.
In Blender it seems the i9-11900k does better: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_11700k-vs-intel_core_i9_11900k

But what's the point, or use, in having either of these two processsors: i7-11700k or i9-119kf paired with such a low motherboard? Or a RTX3060?
This is my main worry. That I basically have a good processor and a good graphics card but I won't be able to properly use them.

And when I tried to tell him that the B560 is better suited for this configuration, he kept telling me I'm wrong and shouldn't worry.

 

[geofelt]

If the seller did not deliver what you ordered, you have leverage; return the product and buy elsewhere.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

So, that particular mobo has a weak power phase setup. It's actually only 6+2. So 6 phases are for the CPU and remaining 2 for the rest for the chipset. For a strong CPU, it's not enough. as the boost clocks and voltage required will make the VRM's very toasty. The system may throttle to avoid damage. The basic mobo may not even have heatsinks over the vrm's which is telling.

In an ideal world you should be going for a strong B560 like an MSI B560m Pro, or a decent midrange Z590 like an Asus ROG Strix z590. These type mobo's with better power delivery systems will let your CPU work as intended.

Edit: Apologies. The ROG STRIX I mentioned has a 14+2 setup, so it can delivery clean uninterrupted power for higher end CPU's. The more vrm's spread the load so they don't get toasty.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

But what's the point, or use, in having either of these two processsors: i7-11700k or i9-119kf paired with such a low motherboard? Or a RTX3060?
This is my main worry. That I basically have a good processor and a good graphics card but I won't be able to properly use them.

Yes, in some cases a low end mobo will most certainly hold back the CPU. As for the CPU/GPU combo, your CPU can push any high end GPU very well at 1080p/1440p/4k, depending on the GPU in question.

If you got a decent mobo now, stick with the 3060 (unless you've already bought it) you can see how it performs and if it's up to scratch for your games. Then all you need is a GPU upgrade down the line, and you'll still have a kick-ass gaming machine.

 

[Alex 1847]

Does it have any front fans? And, are you using the OEM Intel CPU cooler?

No, no front fans. Just the back one. I've been trying to figure out if it is using the cooler you said but I don't know how to tell.

 

[Alex 1847]

If the seller did not deliver what you ordered, you have leverage; return the product and buy elsewhere.

Yes, I am going to try. I already tried and he didn't agree with me. So we agreed I'd test it for now and see how it performs. But I can't shake the fact that this configuration is NOT what I expected or wanted in the first place.

 

[Alex 1847]

Hey there,

So, that particular mobo has a weak power phase setup. It's actually only 6+2. So 6 phases are for the CPU and remaining 2 for the rest for the chipset. For a strong CPU, it's not enough. as the boost clocks and voltage required will make the VRM's very toasty. The system may throttle to avoid damage. The basic mobo may not even have heatsinks over the vrm's which is telling.

In an ideal world you should be going for a strong B560 like an MSI B560m Pro, or a decent midrange Z590 like an Asus ROG Strix z590. These type mobo's with better power delivery systems will let your CPU work as intended.

Edit: Apologies. The ROG STRIX I mentioned has a 14+2 setup, so it can delivery clean uninterrupted power for higher end CPU's. The more vrm's spread the load so they don't get toasty.

The B560 is the first motherboard that was listed in the specifications, when I bought it. Normally, I thought I'd be getting that one but I didn't.

When I asked him why he replaced that with the H510M H V2, he said that's all they had in stock. And that I should be happy that I got an i9-11900kf instead of the i7-11700k, because it is "a more powerful processor" and "the motherboard is not as important as I think it is".
We basically talked in circles.

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[COLGeek]

The i9 has a higher turbo frequency, but you'll see no appreciable difference as previously discussed. It also lacks an integrated GPU. That is not a showstopper, but a useful feature when troubleshooting system issues.

Take a picture of your CPU area and upload to a site like imgur.com and post a link to the image. Then, can figure out what cooler you have.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

The B560 is the first motherboard that was listed in the specifications, when I bought it. Normally, I thought I'd be getting that one but I didn't.

When I asked him why he replaced that with the H510M H V2, he said that's all they had in stock. And that I should be happy that I got an i9-11900kf instead of the i7-11700k, because it is "a more powerful processor" and "the motherboard is not as important as I think it is".
We basically talked in circles.

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Oh, I don't like that seller. Defo sounds wrong. He is telling you fibs.

The motherboard is most certainly important. It's the back bone of your hold system.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

The B560 is the first motherboard that was listed in the specifications, when I bought it. Normally, I thought I'd be getting that one but I didn't.

Not all b560's are the same, which is why I suggested something with better power delivery set up.

I would be demanding the seller rectify it. If that's not an option, then you have to live and learn. Harsh, I know.

 

[Alex 1847]

The i9 has a higher turbo frequency, but you'll see no appreciable difference as previously discussed. It also lacks an integrated GPU. That is not a showstopper, but a useful feature when troubleshooting system issues.

Take a picture of your CPU area and upload to a site like imgur.com and post a link to the image. Then, can figure out what cooler you have.

https://imgur.com/a/0gyPfbo

View: https://imgur.com/a/0gyPfbo
I uploaded it

 

[COLGeek]

https://imgur.com/a/0gyPfbo

View: https://imgur.com/a/0gyPfbo
I uploaded it

That is not an Intel cooler. It is likely okay.

 

[Alex 1847]

Not all b560's are the same, which is why I suggested something with better power delivery set up.

I would be demanding the seller rectify it. If that's not an option, then you have to live and learn. Harsh, I know.

I am still legally allowed to return it, he just wouldn't accept it when I tried telling him that's what I want to do.
I tried having a discussion with him but he mostly used the argument that the H510M H V2 is listed as a motherboard that supports the 19-11900kf and that I should be happy I got a better processor.

I don't know, I'm just completely confused. I don't want problems down the line. It was already a bit over budget and as someone who doesn't really have tech knowledge, I'm not sure if the configuration I got is better than the one I chose in the first place.