Please help me on choosing the best GTX 1070

[FerrelBM]

I have my rig ready
CPU : ryzen 1600
Mobo : ASrock AB350 gaming K4
And everything else in place.

But i am having a hard time choosing the right GPU, i currently am aiming for 144hz gaming so i think gtx 1070 might do the job. So i am choosing between
a secondhand ZOTAC Amp! Extreme,
zotac Amp!
gigabyte G1,
gigabyte windforce,
palit dual fan,
Galax Extreme,
Inno3D ichill X4,
a secondhand MSI Gaming X,
a secondhand Asus STRIX OC.

all of this card are priced at 530$ to 620$ with palit, gigabyte windforce, and galax are the cheapest. The secondhand zotac amp extreme is the most expensive.

I live in indonesia where things are very expensive, so there is no better price. and GPU is very rare here thanks to bitcoin miners.

I need a solid, cool card with no issues, but also worth every dime.
Zotac extreme is a cool choice but is there any other choice that will achieve the best experience that still leaves me 80-90$ left ? i am afraid of pascal`s thermal throttling and can afford the zotac extreme if it's the best option.

 

[Cioby]

They are more or less the same. Why do we always have to have these conversations here? Do a quick google search or Tomshardware search and you'll find 100 solved topics.

Personally I'd go for either 1070 Extreme or Aorus since Gigabyte has never failed me and even the reference 780 could overclock very well. And Extreme and Aorus have very good coolers and if it's the same with previous generations, the Extreme should have more OC room and hand picked chip.

But overall, there is very little difference on custom coolers on the 1070 and 1080. And it mostly comes down to lucky chip that can also OC. Without OC you're just fine getting any good card from any good company.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

1. Everything starts with the reference board. An educated user never buys these.

2. AIB cards provide a wide range of improvements, the "buy the cheapest one argument" results from a lack of understanding that cards can differ significantly beyond the cooler used.

3. At the most basic level, an AIB card may have a reference card PCB and a better cooler and that's it. This has been EVGA's "modus operandi" for the SC model line since the 5xx series

4. At the other end of the spectrum, the cards have high end chokes, beefed up VRM with dozen or more phases, improved VRM and memory cooling, expanded power and voltage limits and even binned GPUs. These are cards like the EVGA Classified, MSI Lightning and Asus Matrix. Each change has a varying impact on performance.

A bigger multi-phase VRM will allow higher voltage and power limits which of course are conducive to higher performance. These cards found a significant audience wp thru the 6xx series but this wanted as nVidia clamped down on what AIB partners could do.

5. Everyone else is somewhere in between and of late we are seeing more and more cards with varying levels of improvements. MSI for example has 3 air cooled cards using the same PCB.

6. Some cards simply have better coolers... better for temps... better for noise or better for both. Th e temps have an impact on performance

7. Now nVidia over the years has placed more or more limits on what board partners can do. These limits are both physical and legal. In the past users where able to overcome these limits with BIOS Editors that allowed users to take better advantage of these improved components on the PCB,

8. With the 10xx series and Boost 4, the limits imposed by Boost 3 have the effect of nerfing the performance of the cards. The better the PC components, the greater this impact is. As a result, the performance impacts we saw with past generations, is no longer attainable. Oh yes, there is still a difference but it's not as great as we have seen in previous generations.

9. Lastly, the highest clock / boost clock is not indicative of highest fps ... in some cases, increasing the clock / boost clock past a certain point reduces FPS

10. Here's a summary of TechPowerUps max overclock testing on various AIB 1080 Tis

MSI GTX 1080 Ti Lightning Z 11 GB - 221.5 fps
Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GameRock Premium 11 GB - 215.1
MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X 11 GB - 214.3
ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix OC 11 GB - 214.2
Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP! Extreme 11 GB - 213 fps
EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 11 GB - 209.3
Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Gaming 11 GB - 209.1

That's a 6% difference top to bottom

For the 1070s, again in TPus testing, 2 cards broke 2100 GPU clock and 2400 on memory

Gigabyte GTX 1070 XtremeGaming
MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X

For the most part, we found the Asus DCII cards to offer the best balance of performance, noise and cooling. With 7xx, Asus and MSI were the choice. With 9xx and 10xx, we have been using MSI Gaming and Gigabyte Xtreme

 

[FerrelBM]

1. Everything starts with the reference board. An educated user never buys these.

2. AIB cards provide a wide range of improvements, the "buy the cheapest one argument" results from a lack of understanding that cards can differ significantly beyond the cooler used.

3. At the most basic level, an AIB card may have a reference card PCB and a better cooler and that's it. This has been EVGA's "modus operandi" for the SC model line since the 5xx series

4. At the other end of the spectrum, the cards have high end chokes, beefed up VRM with dozen or more phases, improved VRM and memory cooling, expanded power and voltage limits and even binned GPUs. These are cards like the EVGA Classified, MSI Lightning and Asus Matrix. Each change has a varying impact on performance.

A bigger multi-phase VRM will allow higher voltage and power limits which of course are conducive to higher performance. These cards found a significant audience wp thru the 6xx series but this wanted as nVidia clamped down on what AIB partners could do.

5. Everyone else is somewhere in between and of late we are seeing more and more cards with varying levels of improvements. MSI for example has 3 air cooled cards using the same PCB.

6. Some cards simply have better coolers... better for temps... better for noise or better for both. Th e temps have an impact on performance

7. Now nVidia over the years has placed more or more limits on what board partners can do. These limits are both physical and legal. In the past users where able to overcome these limits with BIOS Editors that allowed users to take better advantage of these improved components on the PCB,

8. With the 10xx series and Boost 4, the limits imposed by Boost 3 have the effect of nerfing the performance of the cards. The better the PC components, the greater this impact is. As a result, the performance impacts we saw with past generations, is no longer attainable. Oh yes, there is still a difference but it's not as great as we have seen in previous generations.

9. Lastly, the highest clock / boost clock is not indicative of highest fps ... in some cases, increasing the clock / boost clock past a certain point reduces FPS

10. Here's a summary of TechPowerUps max overclock testing on various AIB 1080 Tis

MSI GTX 1080 Ti Lightning Z 11 GB - 221.5 fps
Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GameRock Premium 11 GB - 215.1
MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X 11 GB - 214.3
ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix OC 11 GB - 214.2
Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP! Extreme 11 GB - 213 fps
EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 11 GB - 209.3
Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Gaming 11 GB - 209.1

That's a 6% difference top to bottom

For the 1070s, again in TPus testing, 2 cards broke 2100 GPU clock and 2400 on memory

Gigabyte GTX 1070 XtremeGaming
MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X

For the most part, we found the Asus DCII cards to offer the best balance of performance, noise and cooling. With 7xx, Asus and MSI were the choice. With 9xx and 10xx, we have been using MSI Gaming and Gigabyte Xtreme

so which are you suggesting ?

 

[Cioby]

That's kind of a biased test since I've seen many cases where a GPU beats another one (not to mention that's 1080ti, copy/paste answer lol). And they vary in games. More or less it depends which company you trust the most, has a decent price and how lucky you will be to get a chip that can also overclock. Gigabyte(Aorus or extreme or G1) Asus(strix) Evga(FTW) MSI are my recommendations in that order.

 

[madmatt30]

Seen a 6% variance between card models that are exactly the same due to the binning /voltage/temp irregularities that affect the automatic boost 3 that these cards use.

The best card for you ia the one that offers the best value without compromising quality .

Youre oing to be in the 110-120 fps range with a ryzen 1600 at best - all those cards will perform the same.

How much is the inno3d ??
That card has a superb cooler.