- Dec 21, 2023
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Dear goated people of the Toms Hardware forums: Yesterday I tried to get advice on my next build, which I‘ll purchase next week or the week after that. Depending on how fast my issue can be solved. The subreddit I chose for this, suggested, that my case needs higher knowledge and hence should be forwarded to your circle. I think there is use in posting my original post and then describe what I‘ve already learned, so that you guys can correct, if I misunderstood anything:
original post:
Picking DDR5 RAM feels exhausting
So my last build was around 2015. A lot has changed and I clearly didn‘t pay enough attention. All the posts I can find on the issue of picking the right RAM Sticks, seem to be from when DDR5 standard was just released. I‘ve been wondering, if its still impossible to run 128 GB of DDR5 RAM?
But first things first: Last time I built ( and it lastet me fairly long ), I went for the best GPU and best CPU I could afford. RAM was no question. The money that was left decided the capacity and speed I bought. This time, things are different. I started designing CAD Models and heavy Photo/Video work. Files on the Photo and Graphic designs can easily be 60 GB, when I get lost in the process. But anytime I hit my current 32 GB RAM cap, stuff is taking forever. It‘s at the point, where I really think about which tool or shortcut I can afford to use, since its going to calculate for up to 10 mins at times. I bet you can imagine what that does to a creative process.
Before anyone asks: No, working with smaller files is not an option. I don‘t want to go to deep into detail, but it‘s a lot of experimental stuff for large scale projects in university context. Also, the work in CAD applications greatly benefit from more capacity, so size actually matters in my case. The configuration so far can be seen in this link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v3tcgB
The motherboard was chosen primarily because of the direct ethernet connection to my NAS. That stuff could really ease some work flows up. If it is an obstacle to better RAM configs however, I‘m open for suggestions.
As you guys might probably be able to see, theres no video card right now. Ill update with a 4090 in a couple of months, since it wont be a bottle neck for now. I can render projects in the cloud or at university for the moment. Its just not a priority. Also, I can use my outdated 980ti for these months still.
So, if 128 GB is not an achievable option, what would be the smartest move? The ASUS qcl List gives some options, but I cannot decide, wether for example 2x48 GB at 6400 CL80 (Kingston KF564C32RSAK2) is actually a smart move, or the same size at 6800 CL84 (Team Group FF3D596G6800HC36DDC01) is better? Or would a lower speed with also lower CL maybe be the best bang for buck?
All this being said: I‘m, of course, still a Gamer. But I don‘t fear the relatively high CLs on that use case. Am I wrong?
Long story short: I really need someone who knows his RAM stuff, to give his two cents on this matter, please.
What I‘ve learned so far:
Thank you guys in advance!
original post:
Picking DDR5 RAM feels exhausting
So my last build was around 2015. A lot has changed and I clearly didn‘t pay enough attention. All the posts I can find on the issue of picking the right RAM Sticks, seem to be from when DDR5 standard was just released. I‘ve been wondering, if its still impossible to run 128 GB of DDR5 RAM?
But first things first: Last time I built ( and it lastet me fairly long ), I went for the best GPU and best CPU I could afford. RAM was no question. The money that was left decided the capacity and speed I bought. This time, things are different. I started designing CAD Models and heavy Photo/Video work. Files on the Photo and Graphic designs can easily be 60 GB, when I get lost in the process. But anytime I hit my current 32 GB RAM cap, stuff is taking forever. It‘s at the point, where I really think about which tool or shortcut I can afford to use, since its going to calculate for up to 10 mins at times. I bet you can imagine what that does to a creative process.
Before anyone asks: No, working with smaller files is not an option. I don‘t want to go to deep into detail, but it‘s a lot of experimental stuff for large scale projects in university context. Also, the work in CAD applications greatly benefit from more capacity, so size actually matters in my case. The configuration so far can be seen in this link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v3tcgB
The motherboard was chosen primarily because of the direct ethernet connection to my NAS. That stuff could really ease some work flows up. If it is an obstacle to better RAM configs however, I‘m open for suggestions.
As you guys might probably be able to see, theres no video card right now. Ill update with a 4090 in a couple of months, since it wont be a bottle neck for now. I can render projects in the cloud or at university for the moment. Its just not a priority. Also, I can use my outdated 980ti for these months still.
So, if 128 GB is not an achievable option, what would be the smartest move? The ASUS qcl List gives some options, but I cannot decide, wether for example 2x48 GB at 6400 CL80 (Kingston KF564C32RSAK2) is actually a smart move, or the same size at 6800 CL84 (Team Group FF3D596G6800HC36DDC01) is better? Or would a lower speed with also lower CL maybe be the best bang for buck?
All this being said: I‘m, of course, still a Gamer. But I don‘t fear the relatively high CLs on that use case. Am I wrong?
Long story short: I really need someone who knows his RAM stuff, to give his two cents on this matter, please.
What I‘ve learned so far:
- It seems as if I don‘t actually have to stick with ASUS QVL recommendations on this. If that is correct, I‘m open for suggestions, which RAM sticks could be fitting for my use.
- My choice of MoBo seems to be overpriced. I was trying to go the safe rout and also, as already stated, liked the extra connection to my NAS, which could cut time for a lot of my projects. I would love to read some opinions on this matter.
Thank you guys in advance!
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