Please rate My New Gaming Build

[ufeeboy]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING 6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.95 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($172.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB 100 Million Edition Video Card ($319.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1286.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-27 19:21 EDT-0400

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

Did you buy this already?

 

[ufeeboy]

Did you buy this already?

No

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

Just an example of what you should be looking at.

You're wasting a lot of money with your build, for components that don't matter for gaming performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1256.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-27 19:51 EDT-0400

 

[ufeeboy]

Just an example of what you should be looking at.

You're wasting a lot of money with your build, for components that don't matter for gaming performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1256.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-27 19:51 EDT-0400

Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have mentioned I'll be running multiple clients of the same game (10-15) so I should need the more powerful CPU and more RAM? 8 GB is definitely not enough. I always like to have the option of SLI in the future so the Micro-ATX is not an option and you chose an ATX case. I also read the new M.2 SSD form factor is approximately 4x faster than the legacy SSDs which was one of the reasons I went with this mobo. What's wrong with the case I had picked out? That fractal design case has no personality and doesn't have an optical drive bay that I can see.

 

[J_E_D_70]

Looks like a great build to me. Might push up to 750W on PSU for SLI. But, no way would I get a 970 with 1070's about 2 weeks away for less than $100 more. Happy gaming!

 

[apk24]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have mentioned I'll be running multiple clients of the same game (10-15) so I should need the more powerful CPU and more RAM? 8 GB is definitely not enough. I always like to have the option of SLI in the future so the Micro-ATX is not an option and you chose an ATX case. I also read the new M.2 SSD form factor is approximately 4x faster than the legacy SSDs which was one of the reasons I went with this mobo. What's wrong with the case I had picked out? That fractal design case has no personality and doesn't have an optical drive bay that I can see.

Pretty sure he stepped down on the case to shave 25 bucks off and spend them on system performance, something I would also recommend. When you say that you are running 10-15 clients of the same game, some questions come up: Which game? How is it being done? Are you running a bunch of VMs? or are they all just running side by side on the machine? The answers to these questions will define part choice in general.
The 850 EVO in M.2 form factor isn't any faster than the 850 EVO in 2.5" form factor. That's just a form factor difference. Both SSDs are still the same ssd connected to the rest of the system in pretty much the same manner (a SATA 6Gb/s connection), just the shape is different. The CS1311 isn't significantly slower than the 850 EVO, and a better value purchase.
Now, there are faster SSDs available in the M.2 form factor, they use a PCIe connection, these are what you're thinking of. Example is the Samsung 950 Pro.

 

[ufeeboy]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have mentioned I'll be running multiple clients of the same game (10-15) so I should need the more powerful CPU and more RAM? 8 GB is definitely not enough. I always like to have the option of SLI in the future so the Micro-ATX is not an option and you chose an ATX case. I also read the new M.2 SSD form factor is approximately 4x faster than the legacy SSDs which was one of the reasons I went with this mobo. What's wrong with the case I had picked out? That fractal design case has no personality and doesn't have an optical drive bay that I can see.

Pretty sure he stepped down on the case to shave 25 bucks off and spend them on system performance, something I would also recommend. When you say that you are running 10-15 clients of the same game, some questions come up: Which game? How is it being done? Are you running a bunch of VMs? or are they all just running side by side on the machine? The answers to these questions will define part choice in general.
The 850 EVO in M.2 form factor isn't any faster than the 850 EVO in 2.5" form factor. That's just a form factor difference. Both SSDs are still the same ssd connected to the rest of the system in pretty much the same manner (a SATA 6Gb/s connection), just the shape is different. The CS1311 isn't significantly slower than the 850 EVO, and a better value purchase.
Now, there are faster SSDs available in the M.2 form factor, they use a PCIe connection, these are what you're thinking of. Example is the Samsung 950 Pro.

They would all be running side by side and at the lowest graphics setting. The mobo I chose says it supports M.2 PCIe and the SSD is M.2. Are you saying that's not true? Here's what the specs say on Newegg.

2 x M.2 connectors (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 SATA and PCIe x4/x2/x1 SSD support)

 

[apk24]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have mentioned I'll be running multiple clients of the same game (10-15) so I should need the more powerful CPU and more RAM? 8 GB is definitely not enough. I always like to have the option of SLI in the future so the Micro-ATX is not an option and you chose an ATX case. I also read the new M.2 SSD form factor is approximately 4x faster than the legacy SSDs which was one of the reasons I went with this mobo. What's wrong with the case I had picked out? That fractal design case has no personality and doesn't have an optical drive bay that I can see.

Pretty sure he stepped down on the case to shave 25 bucks off and spend them on system performance, something I would also recommend. When you say that you are running 10-15 clients of the same game, some questions come up: Which game? How is it being done? Are you running a bunch of VMs? or are they all just running side by side on the machine? The answers to these questions will define part choice in general.
The 850 EVO in M.2 form factor isn't any faster than the 850 EVO in 2.5" form factor. That's just a form factor difference. Both SSDs are still the same ssd connected to the rest of the system in pretty much the same manner (a SATA 6Gb/s connection), just the shape is different. The CS1311 isn't significantly slower than the 850 EVO, and a better value purchase.
Now, there are faster SSDs available in the M.2 form factor, they use a PCIe connection, these are what you're thinking of. Example is the Samsung 950 Pro.

They would all be running side by side and at the lowest graphics setting. The mobo I chose says it supports M.2 PCIe and the SSD is M.2. Are you saying that's not true? Here's what the specs say on Newegg.

2 x M.2 connectors (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 SATA and PCIe x4/x2/x1 SSD support)

The issue isn't the Mobo, it's the drive. 850 EVO is a SATA drive, not a PCIe drive. 850 EVO regardless of whether it is the M.2 version or not will perform at SATA speeds, not PCIe. Which game?

 

[ufeeboy]

Looks like a great build to me. Might push up to 750W on PSU for SLI. But, no way would I get a 970 with 1070's about 2 weeks away for less than $100 more. Happy gaming!

Thanks I didn't realize this.

 

[ufeeboy]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have mentioned I'll be running multiple clients of the same game (10-15) so I should need the more powerful CPU and more RAM? 8 GB is definitely not enough. I always like to have the option of SLI in the future so the Micro-ATX is not an option and you chose an ATX case. I also read the new M.2 SSD form factor is approximately 4x faster than the legacy SSDs which was one of the reasons I went with this mobo. What's wrong with the case I had picked out? That fractal design case has no personality and doesn't have an optical drive bay that I can see.

Pretty sure he stepped down on the case to shave 25 bucks off and spend them on system performance, something I would also recommend. When you say that you are running 10-15 clients of the same game, some questions come up: Which game? How is it being done? Are you running a bunch of VMs? or are they all just running side by side on the machine? The answers to these questions will define part choice in general.
The 850 EVO in M.2 form factor isn't any faster than the 850 EVO in 2.5" form factor. That's just a form factor difference. Both SSDs are still the same ssd connected to the rest of the system in pretty much the same manner (a SATA 6Gb/s connection), just the shape is different. The CS1311 isn't significantly slower than the 850 EVO, and a better value purchase.
Now, there are faster SSDs available in the M.2 form factor, they use a PCIe connection, these are what you're thinking of. Example is the Samsung 950 Pro.

They would all be running side by side and at the lowest graphics setting. The mobo I chose says it supports M.2 PCIe and the SSD is M.2. Are you saying that's not true? Here's what the specs say on Newegg.

2 x M.2 connectors (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 SATA and PCIe x4/x2/x1 SSD support)

The issue isn't the Mobo, it's the drive. 850 EVO is a SATA drive, not a PCIe drive. 850 EVO regardless of whether it is the M.2 version or not will perform at SATA speeds, not PCIe. Which game?

The 850 EVO comes in SATA and M.2 formats.

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[apk24]

The 850 EVO comes in SATA and M.2 formats.

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Let's be clear. The following is a brief overview of several form facotrs and interfaces. It is fairly simplistic and a lot of details are glossed over to enhance comprehension.

SATA is an interface, it is primarily a type of connection between the storage controller and the drive. Yes, the SATA spec does outline connector shapes, but that's not its purpose.Latest gen SATA III has a max transfer speed of 6 Gb/s.

PCIe is also an interface, it defines a different way of communication between the drive and storage controller, again yes it also defines a connector shape, but not its purpose. Latest gen PCIe 3.0 has a max transfer speed of 16 Gb/s per lane. (So PCIe 3.0 x4 slot has 16 x 4 = 64 Gb/s of bandwidth)

M.2 is a form factor, it defines the shape of the drive and mounting hardware (which for M.2 does include the connector). It does not define how the drive communicates with the storage controller, and frankly, it doesn't care.

2.5" is a form factor, it defines the shape of the drive and mounting hardware. It does not define how the drive communicates with the storage controller, and frankly, it doesn't care.

With that out of the way

The 850 EVO is a SATA SSD.
No matter which form factor you get it in, 2.5" or M.2, both models have the same circuitry inside. They perform identically. An M.2 850 EVO is the same as a 2.5" EVO, the only difference is cost and shape.

When you hear people talk about M.2 SSD being faster than 2.5" SSD, what they really mean is that PCIe SSDs are faster than SATA SSDs. If you really care that much about getting the fastest SSD avaliable, you will have to look at PCIe SSDs like the 950 Pro and Intel 750.

 

[ufeeboy]

The 850 EVO comes in SATA and M.2 formats.

http://

http://

Let's be clear. The following is a brief overview of several form facotrs and interfaces. It is fairly simplistic and a lot of details are glossed over to enhance comprehension.

SATA is an interface, it is primarily a type of connection between the storage controller and the drive. Yes, the SATA spec does outline connector shapes, but that's not its purpose.Latest gen SATA III has a max transfer speed of 6 Gb/s.

PCIe is also an interface, it defines a different way of communication between the drive and storage controller, again yes it also defines a connector shape, but not its purpose. Latest gen PCIe 3.0 has a max transfer speed of 16 Gb/s per lane. (So PCIe 3.0 x4 slot has 16 x 4 = 64 Gb/s of bandwidth)

M.2 is a form factor, it defines the shape of the drive and mounting hardware (which for M.2 does include the connector). It does not define how the drive communicates with the storage controller, and frankly, it doesn't care.

2.5" is a form factor, it defines the shape of the drive and mounting hardware. It does not define how the drive communicates with the storage controller, and frankly, it doesn't care.

With that out of the way

The 850 EVO is a SATA SSD.
No matter which form factor you get it in, 2.5" or M.2, both models have the same circuitry inside. They perform identically. An M.2 850 EVO is the same as a 2.5" EVO, the only difference is cost and shape.

When you hear people talk about M.2 SSD being faster than 2.5" SSD, what they really mean is that PCIe SSDs are faster than SATA SSDs. If you really care that much about getting the fastest SSD avaliable, you will have to look at PCIe SSDs like the 950 Pro and Intel 750.

That's a tad misleading but it does say it in the description for each version. I would've bought the 850 if it wasn't for you. Thank you Sir. The game is WoW BTW.

 

[apk24]

Given that you want to keep options open for SLI (I disagree with this personally, since it adds a decent amount of cost now for possibly future value) and that you want to run several MMO clients at once, I would recommend something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ SuperBiiz) Need a z170 mobo for SLI, might as well get an unlocked chip. Could save a bit of cost by stepping down to a locked i7-6700 @ $297ish
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.49 @ Amazon) i7-6700k does not come with a cooler, and you need an aftermarket cooler anyway if you plan to OC. If you do step down to a locked chip, this is unnecessary. Stock coolers that come with locked chips are more than enough for those chips in most cases.
Motherboard: Gigabyte Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING 6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.95 @ NCIX US) Kept your original mobo choice, nothing wrong with it in particular. Cheaper ones available, even more so if you decide you don't want SLI.
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC) RAM is RAM, again left your original choice since there isn't anything wrong with it. Just note that the gaming performance gains from faster RAM are pretty much negligible. a kit like Ripjaws V DDR4-2400 @ $60 will serve you just as well.
Storage: PNY CS1311 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon) Performs almost the same as the 850 EVO in your original choice but almost 70 bucks cheaper. It also leaves your M.2 slot open in case M.2 PCIe drives become cheaper and you decide you want to upgrade.
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($83.99 @ NCIX US) Kept your case choice, it aint bad and pretty much personal preference as long as cost isn't an issue.
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ NCIX US) Bit bigger PSU if you want to keep SLI options open in the future.
Other: GTX 1070 ($400.00) If you can wait for it, a 1070 card (non founder's edition) would fit right in here.
Total: $1322.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-28 12:26 EDT-0400

A more cost effective build, without OC or SLI: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k8tLr7
Note that for the same budget, and pretty much same system specs, I could squeeze in a 1080

Edit: Please note that both these builds involve cards that will launch in a few weeks, and are not yet released