[SOLVED] POE switch (with x8 100 Mbit + x4 1000 Mbit ports) and router recommendations (for 600 Mbit internet connection)

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Hi,

I just switched to 600 mbit internet yesterday and I am looking to upgrade my home network.
I am looking for:

- POE SWITCH: I need x8 100 Mbit ports (802.3af) for IP cameras + x3 1000 Mbit ports (802.3af or passive 24V) for UNIFI UAP-AC-LR devices (at the moment I still use a single port injectors...) and one more 1000 Mbit port (802.3af) for 60 GHz PTP bridge (MikroTik wAP 60G). Switch needs to be managed.
I will also need x4 1000 Mbit ports for non poe devices (NAS, PC, etc).

- ROUTER: Needs to be enough fast and stable to work with 600 Mbit internet connection and operate for two houses (each house with about ~40 wireless / wired clients, second house is connected to router by 60 GHz PTP bridge). No W-Fi required as I have UNIFI devices.
My first idea was to buy something from MikroTik (from cheap RB750GR3 HEX to / RB4011IGS / RB5009UG etc) or Ubiqiuti (EdgeRouter X / EdgeRouter 4).
What would you recommend here? I was thinking to get all-in-one device (Mikrotik CCR or something similar) but now I see it's not really possible to cover everything what I need, I assume I need to buy a router and POE switch separately and it will be even cheaper, what do you think?

I found pretty decent Cisco switch (Catalyst 3560X WS-C3560X-24P-L) locally and it's also very cheap ($50). It comes with a x24 POE+ 1000 Mbit ports but it's not really efficient device (according to datasheet, it takes about 98 watts when network traffic is 0%...).
It would be great if device would be fast and stable, not very expansive (I am not afraid to buy used devices) but efficiency is also important for me.
Any comment would be much appreciated,
Thank you
 
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You seem to know all the basic stuff. Microtik stuff can be a little complex to configure but it is cheap compared to say cisco or HP stuff.

I would go with a separate router and switch it makes getting the PoE function easier. Many companies that sell more to the consumer market like tplink sell lots of PoE options.

Now this all depends on what you are calling a "router". Most people on this forum just mean the box you connect to the internet that does NAT. These consumer boxes can not actually do a true router function say between different subnets in the same network or run real routing protocols.
The thing they do good though is NAT. This function has been moved off the CPU to allow the box to be able to pass a full...
You seem to know all the basic stuff. Microtik stuff can be a little complex to configure but it is cheap compared to say cisco or HP stuff.

I would go with a separate router and switch it makes getting the PoE function easier. Many companies that sell more to the consumer market like tplink sell lots of PoE options.

Now this all depends on what you are calling a "router". Most people on this forum just mean the box you connect to the internet that does NAT. These consumer boxes can not actually do a true router function say between different subnets in the same network or run real routing protocols.
The thing they do good though is NAT. This function has been moved off the CPU to allow the box to be able to pass a full gigabit of traffic wan/lan though NAT.

I would buy a simple consumer router that has gigabit wan/lan ports maybe for $50. I would ignore the wifi specs and use it purely as a internet "gateway" which is really all it does good.

After that you can just use switches and AP. If you need actual router ability you can get layer 3 switches. I think the 3560 is a layer 3 switch but they have many sub models. It would be rare to need a router function even is a fairly small business.

Which PoE switch you use is complex as I suspect you know. You have to worry both about the type of PoE you need as well as the total power the switch can provide and the devices require.

A question though. How well to do the 60ghz radios really work say in bad weather or fog. I know when they tried home routers with 802.11ad it wasn't very successful because of how poorly it worked if you were not in the same room.
 
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