[POLL] Devil's Canyon OR Broadwell

[Xakersas]

Hello world, i am upgradeing my old pc into a gaming pc part by part, but i still haven't upgraded some of the most important parts in the computer those parts, the parts that im looking to upgrade are: CPU, Motherboard, (GPU about next year). Those are my current specs:
Corsair Air 540
Crucial M500 128GB
WD Caviar Blue 1TB
Corsair vengeance 8gb
Corsair RM 850
Sapphire R7 260x
!!!Gigabyte H55m-s2
!!!Intel core i3 530
I have 3 options that are listed in the poll.
Will buy a CPU(or two xD), Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gene, Corsair H110.
PS: Obviously not a corsair fanboy. 😛

 

[Powerbolt]

I'd say go for Devil's Canyon. I don't think Broadwell is bringing anything super special to the table other than marginal improvements. Nothing that really sets it apart from the upcoming Haswell refresh anyway. Devil's Canyon on the other hand gives you all the positives about Haswell with improved TIM (better overclocking), DDR4 support, and the Z97 chipset.

 

[Xakersas]

There will be no DDR4 Support on broadwell they said that there will be no new motherboards so its impossible

 

[Rationale]

I'd go Devil's Canyon. In fact, I intend to buy Devil's Canyon myself. :3
DDR4 support is a bonus as well.

 

[Rationale]

I'd say go for Devil's Canyon. I don't think Broadwell is bringing anything super special to the table other than marginal improvements. Nothing that really sets it apart from the upcoming Haswell refresh anyway. Devil's Canyon on the other hand gives you all the positives about Haswell with improved TIM (better overclocking), DDR4 support, and the Z97 chipset.

The integrated graphics of Broadwell are supposed to be much better, but that'll mostly just help general purpose PCs, not gaming rigs. On the CPU side (and especially for gaming) Devil's Canyon + discrete GPU should still be better.

 

[Xakersas]

I'd go Devil's Canyon. In fact, I intend to buy Devil's Canyon myself. :3
DDR4 support is a bonus as well.

guys im 99% certain that there will be no DDR4 support on Devil's Canyon Nor Broadwell.
Z97 uses DDR3 RAM, the pins in DDR4 Ram are differrent than the pins in DDR3 Ram, and since intel said no new chipset there will be no new motherboards, and no DDR4 Support

 

[Powerbolt]

There will be no DDR4 Support on broadwell they said that there will be no new motherboards so its impossible

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-haswell-e-devils-canyon-pentium-anniversary-edition-broadwell,26326.html

 

[Xakersas]

There will be no DDR4 Support on broadwell they said that there will be no new motherboards so its impossible

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-haswell-e-devils-canyon-pentium-anniversary-edition-broadwell,26326.html

It says Haswell-E will get DDR4 these are the server grade cpu's that that will run on the X99 chipset, this is different than Z97.

 

[logainofhades]

People making a big deal out of Devil's Canyon. I guess if you are an overclocker, it could be interesting. Otherwise, I see nothing important about it so far.

 

[Powerbolt]

There will be no DDR4 Support on broadwell they said that there will be no new motherboards so its impossible

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-haswell-e-devils-canyon-pentium-anniversary-edition-broadwell,26326.html

It says Haswell-E will get DDR4 these are the server grade cpu's that that will run on the X99 chipset, this is different than Z97.

Haswell-E is referring to the architecture/design refresh. Architecture has nothing to do with a specialized line of CPUs. Xeon are server "grade" chips, i7 are enthusiast/workstation chips, i5 are gaming/workstation chips. So, yes, they will run nicely on DDR4 and Z97 respectively.

 

[logainofhades]

Haswell-E will have i7 variants as well, just like Ivy-E and Sandy-E do now.

 

[Xakersas]

People making a big deal out of Devil's Canyon. I guess if you are an overclocker, it could be interesting. Otherwise, I see nothing important about it so far.

I will be overclocking it morover my cpu is a 4-year-old i3 so i think it will be worth it.

 

[logainofhades]

Yea, it really only benefits overclockers. Me personally, for a full sized desktop, I would just get a 1230v3 and a B85 pro4, or a z87 extreme3 if I wanted CF/SLI capability.

 

[Xakersas]

There will be no DDR4 Support on broadwell they said that there will be no new motherboards so its impossible

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-haswell-e-devils-canyon-pentium-anniversary-edition-broadwell,26326.html

It says Haswell-E will get DDR4 these are the server grade cpu's that that will run on the X99 chipset, this is different than Z97.

Haswell-E is referring to the architecture/design refresh. Architecture has nothing to do with a specialized line of CPUs. Xeon are server "grade" chips, i7 are enthusiast/workstation chips, i5 are gaming/workstation chips. So, yes, they will run nicely on DDR4 and Z97 respectively.

dude Z97 wont support DDR4 the pins on DDR4 ram are different than the pins on DDR3 ram, in other words DDR4 wont fit in DDR3. Moreover all Z97 motherboards that are up for preorder have DDR3, they cant change to DDR4, DDR4 will come in a generation or two for desktop cpu's.

 

[Powerbolt]

Haswell-E is referring to the architecture/design refresh. Architecture has nothing to do with a specialized line of CPUs. Xeon are server "grade" chips, i7 are enthusiast/workstation chips, i5 are gaming/workstation chips. So, yes, they will run nicely on DDR4 and Z97 respectively.

dude Z97 wont support DDR4 the pins on DDR4 ram are different than the pins on DDR3 ram, in other words DDR4 wont fit in DDR3. Moreover all Z97 motherboards that are up for preorder have DDR3, they cant change to DDR4, DDR4 will come in a generation or two for desktop cpu's.

/FACEPALM.

You just don't get it. This isn't about boards, or pin configurations. It's about the CPU. The CPU supports DDR4. If it were computationally possible I would bold that simple statement one hundred thousand times over because you still don't understand it. "That CPU doesn't support DDR4 because the pin configuration is different." That's the kind of argument you're putting forth right now, and it's pathetic.

If you choose to be ignorant about it, that's fine; go ahead. That doesn't change facts. This conversation is over.

 

[Xakersas]

Haswell-E is referring to the architecture/design refresh. Architecture has nothing to do with a specialized line of CPUs. Xeon are server "grade" chips, i7 are enthusiast/workstation chips, i5 are gaming/workstation chips. So, yes, they will run nicely on DDR4 and Z97 respectively.

dude Z97 wont support DDR4 the pins on DDR4 ram are different than the pins on DDR3 ram, in other words DDR4 wont fit in DDR3. Moreover all Z97 motherboards that are up for preorder have DDR3, they cant change to DDR4, DDR4 will come in a generation or two for desktop cpu's.

/FACEPALM.

You just don't get it. This isn't about boards, or pin configurations. It's about the CPU. The CPU supports DDR4. If it were computationally possible I would bold that simple statement one hundred thousand times over because you still don't understand it. "That CPU doesn't support DDR4 because the pin configuration is different." That's the kind of argument you're putting forth right now, and it's pathetic.

If you choose to be ignorant about it, that's fine; go ahead. That doesn't change facts. This conversation is over.

i get what you're saying now! you mean that let's say if there was an 1150 Z107 Motherboard and DDR4 Pins i could put the cpu there with DDR4 Ram, now i see thanks!

 

[Powerbolt]

Haswell-E is referring to the architecture/design refresh. Architecture has nothing to do with a specialized line of CPUs. Xeon are server "grade" chips, i7 are enthusiast/workstation chips, i5 are gaming/workstation chips. So, yes, they will run nicely on DDR4 and Z97 respectively.

dude Z97 wont support DDR4 the pins on DDR4 ram are different than the pins on DDR3 ram, in other words DDR4 wont fit in DDR3. Moreover all Z97 motherboards that are up for preorder have DDR3, they cant change to DDR4, DDR4 will come in a generation or two for desktop cpu's.

/FACEPALM.

You just don't get it. This isn't about boards, or pin configurations. It's about the CPU. The CPU supports DDR4. If it were computationally possible I would bold that simple statement one hundred thousand times over because you still don't understand it. "That CPU doesn't support DDR4 because the pin configuration is different." That's the kind of argument you're putting forth right now, and it's pathetic.

If you choose to be ignorant about it, that's fine; go ahead. That doesn't change facts. This conversation is over.

i get what you're saying now! you mean that let's say if there was an 1150 Z107 Motherboard and DDR4 Pins i could put the cpu there with DDR4 Ram, now i see thanks!

Precisely. And now I feel like a major A-hole for losing my temper last night. I'm sorry.

 

[Obnoxious]

I'd go with a Devil's Canyon i7, you might as well go all out. Broadwell doesn't bring major performance boosts over the current generation IMO. I upgraded my old Pentium 4 computer to a Sandy Bridge Pentium in 2012, expecting to upgrade to an i5 or i7 later; but I'm still on the Sandy Bridge Pentium today as I didn't expect it to be as "powerful" as it is, so upgrading to an i5 or i7 for me would be a waste of money, as I don't need that much processing power; plus I'm willing to wait longer periods for videos to encode in Adobe Première and so on. To be honest (and off-topic) my computer boots up faster than my friend's i5 Windows 8 laptop (I'm on W7 with a standard HDD.)

So where am I going with all this? Ultimately I am satisfied with my Sandy Bridge Pentium, and if I was to upgrade I'd have to sell my processor as I have no use for it afterwards. So from my point and hindsight, I'm just informing you that if you're going to end up in the same boat as me, just go all out now. I'd get the Devil's Canyon i7.

By the way, about this CPU and DDR4 debate. Sorry to re-spark it, and I know it may sound silly; but what's the point of a DDR4 capable CPU if you can't utilise DDR4? Is it simply for future motherboards with DDR4 support on the same socket, allowing you to upgrade the motherboard without replacing the CPU, GPU and other major components?

All the best.

 

[SessouXFX]

DDR4 ain't coming until Skylake, for the mainstream. Otherwise, look for Haswell-E to get DDR4...