POP3 and SMTP servers?

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I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.

Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all the
various phone settings? I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers from
their 611 info line, and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
provider specific help.

Thanks,
Bruce.

 

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"Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote in message
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| I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
| information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
| This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.
|
| Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all
the
| various phone settings? I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers
from
| their 611 info line, and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
| provider specific help.
|

Check Cingular.howardforums.com and particularly the FAQ there. It is a very
active forum. Just be sure to search first, as the people there get bent out
of shape when you ask a question thats been asked several times. Chances are
you will find exactly what you are looking for there, already posted several
times. It is much more active than this newsgroup is. The FAQ there is where
you will likely find all the settings for your particular phone.

 

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In article <PHUKc.4756$f4.2915@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote:

> I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
> information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
> This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.


mycingular.com


>
> Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all the
> various phone settings?

THERE ARE NONE.


> I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers from
> their 611 info line,


EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.


> and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
> provider specific help.
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce.

 

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> mycingular.com

Thanks.

> THERE ARE NONE.
> EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.

Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
choice of Cingular. Sigh.

Bruce.

 

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In article <xCWKc.4971$f4.3118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote:

> > mycingular.com
>
> Thanks.
>
> > THERE ARE NONE.
> > EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
>
> Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
> choice of Cingular. Sigh.

Under any circumstances any cell phone is a poor platform
for handling email. Good Technology makes the best handheld
email device (IMHO) and works well on the Cingular Network.

 

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"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote in message
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> Check Cingular.howardforums.com and particularly the FAQ there. It is a
very
> active forum. Just be sure to search first, as the people there get bent
out
> of shape when you ask a question thats been asked several times. Chances
are
> you will find exactly what you are looking for there, already posted
several
> times. It is much more active than this newsgroup is. The FAQ there is
where
> you will likely find all the settings for your particular phone.

Thanks very much!

Bruce.

 

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In <B0YKc.5$QO.0@bignews5.bellsouth.net> on Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:35:12 -0400,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

>Check Cingular.howardforums.com and particularly the FAQ there. It is a very
>active forum. Just be sure to search first, as the people there get bent out
>of shape when you ask a question thats been asked several times. Chances are
>you will find exactly what you are looking for there, already posted several
>times. It is much more active than this newsgroup is. The FAQ there is where
>you will likely find all the settings for your particular phone.

With all due respect, I think it's better to search the Web and/or Usenet with
Google. Web forums tend to Balkanize the Internet.

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In <xCWKc.4971$f4.3118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> on Mon, 19 Jul 2004
20:59:09 GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote:

>> mycingular.com
>
>Thanks.

Designed for WAP. Won't help with POP3 or SMTP (for a mail client in your
phone).

>> THERE ARE NONE.
>> EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
>
>Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
>choice of Cingular. Sigh.

Why? Both are quite decent.

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In <rmarkoff-68B1CA.16323319072004@news2.west.earthlink.net> on Mon, 19 Jul
2004 21:32:33 GMT, "Røbert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:

>In article <xCWKc.4971$f4.3118@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> "Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote:
>
>> > mycingular.com
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> > THERE ARE NONE.
>> > EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
>>
>> Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
>> choice of Cingular. Sigh.
>
>Under any circumstances any cell phone is a poor platform
>for handling email. ...

Nonsense. A good cell phone (e.g., the better Sony Ericsson models) handle
email quite well, including ASMTP and IMAP4 in addition to POP3. I send and
receive email with my Z600 regularly. Works great.

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In <PHUKc.4756$f4.2915@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> on Mon, 19 Jul 2004
18:48:15 GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote:

>I'm trying to set up email on my Motorola phone and I can't find any
>information about what the POP3 and SMTP server names should be set for?
>This is presumably for GPRS, if that's important.

The POP3 and SMTP settings come from the email provider, not the carrier.
While Cingular does provide email service, that service is WAP/Web-based, not
POP3/SMTP. Thus you'll need to use some other email provider (e.g., regular
ISP or email service).

Receiving email by POP3 (or IMAP4) is a simple matter of entering the right
settings from your email provider. Sending can be more difficult, because
many providers require some sort of authentication as an anti-spam measure,
and authentication can be problematic with a cell phone.

photo.mycingular.com can be used as an outgoing SMTP server if you're willing
to put up with a Cingular ad being tacked on to the end of your outgoing
messages.

>Also, does anyone know of a good link to a Cingular site that covers all the
>various phone settings? I've already gotten a couple of wrong answers from
>their 611 info line, and the Motorola manual doesn't include service
>provider specific help.

My website below has a link to Cingular's technical reference on phone data
settings --
<http://alliance.cingularinteractive.com/products/pdf/DeviceSoftwareSettings.pdf>

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> >Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and
my
> >choice of Cingular. Sigh.
>
> Why? Both are quite decent.

If you say so John. I just upgraded from a Nokia phone which didn't require
configuration AT ALL to send and receive email (AT&T was the email host).

With this V400 and Cingular, I'm in acronym hell and total information
overload.

As best as I can tell, my old Nokia piggy-backed email on SMS, which worked
perfectly for what I wanted. I was assigned an email address by AT&T and I
could send and receive without configuring anything, usiing that assigned
email address.

With Cingular, I can't make the simpler email over SMS reliably (noted in
other threads), and the Cingular email requires (to get rid of the Cingular
spam on outgoing messages) an external SMTP and POP3 server, which is
hopelessly complicated to configure, and doesn't seem compatible with my
ISP's SMTP server (I believe due to authentication reasons, but that's just
a guess).

And even if I could get that to work, The V400 seems to be limited to
checking the POP3 server for email no more often than once every 30 minutes.
Totally unacceptable considering the near instantaneous delivery I got with
email over SMS I got with AT&T and the Nokia phone.

And even if I could get the V400 to poll more often, wouldn't I have to pay
for the bytes exchanged every time, even if there is no new email for me?

I'm extremely disappointed.

Bruce.

 

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> My website below has a link to Cingular's technical reference on phone
data
> settings --
>
<http://alliance.cingularinteractive.com/products/pdf/DeviceSoftwareSettings
..pdf>

Thanks very much for the info and links John. It'll probably take me a few
days to absorb a lot of the new terminology.

Bruce.

 

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>With this V400 and Cingular, I'm in acronym hell and total information
>overload.

ANYTHING other than a Motorola would be a better choice - as you have found
out, unfortunatly!

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In <Q0YLc.59$uC7.31@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:24:32
GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:UeULc.3683$54.52083@typhoon.sonic.net...

>> >Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
>> >choice of Cingular. Sigh.
>>
>> Why? Both are quite decent.
>
>If you say so John.

I do, based on considerable experience.

>I just upgraded from a Nokia phone which didn't require
>configuration AT ALL to send and receive email (AT&T was the email host).

When you use a supported phone, OTA provisioning usually makes it a breeze.

>With this V400 and Cingular, I'm in acronym hell and total information
>overload.

Did Cingular sell you the phone? If so, boogie on in to a (real) Cingular
store and get it fixed. If not, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

>As best as I can tell, my old Nokia piggy-backed email on SMS, which worked
>perfectly for what I wanted. I was assigned an email address by AT&T and I
>could send and receive without configuring anything, usiing that assigned
>email address.

Email doesn't work "over SMS." Perhaps you're thinking of SMS-email
*gateways*.

>With Cingular, I can't make the simpler email over SMS reliably (noted in
>other threads),

Cingular's email-SMS gateway is reliable.

>and the Cingular email requires (to get rid of the Cingular
>spam on outgoing messages) an external SMTP and POP3 server, which is
>hopelessly complicated to configure, and doesn't seem compatible with my
>ISP's SMTP server (I believe due to authentication reasons, but that's just
>a guess).

That's not Cingular's fault. If you like ATTWS features better (I don't),
then go back to ATTWS.

>And even if I could get that to work, The V400 seems to be limited to
>checking the POP3 server for email no more often than once every 30 minutes.
>Totally unacceptable considering the near instantaneous delivery I got with
>email over SMS I got with AT&T and the Nokia phone.

That's SMS push, not phone checking. You're comparing apples and oranges.

A real email client is much more capable than email-SMS.

>And even if I could get the V400 to poll more often, wouldn't I have to pay
>for the bytes exchanged every time, even if there is no new email for me?
>
>I'm extremely disappointed.

It sounds like you didn't do your homework first. Features can and do vary by
carrier, and by type of hardware.

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"Bruce Chastain" <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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|
| As best as I can tell, my old Nokia piggy-backed email on SMS, which
worked
| perfectly for what I wanted. I was assigned an email address by AT&T and
I
| could send and receive without configuring anything, usiing that assigned
| email address.
|

You can send "email" through Cingular over SMS in the same manner using
Cingular's SMS gateway. In all your hard research before flaming, I guess
you missed that.

 

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John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> phone).

> >> THERE ARE NONE.
> >> EVEN THE SUPERVISORS ARE CLUELESS.
> >
> >Yeah. I'm beginning to regret both my purchase of the Motorola V400 and my
> >choice of Cingular. Sigh.

> Why? Both are quite decent.

Cingular service is good. It works in most places I have tried here.
In areas where the in building signal is weak, the phone locks on attws
and roams fine. My only complaint so far is that my minutes show up as
none used. No activity on the account at all. I turned it on June 7th,
changed my plan to nation850 on July 2 and still no call detail now on
July 23rd. The only calls it ever showed were roaming on attws. No
native Cingular usage whatsoever. Yes I have made plenty of calls on
the phone.

 

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"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote in message
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> You can send "email" through Cingular over SMS in the same manner using
> Cingular's SMS gateway. In all your hard research before flaming, I guess
> you missed that.

Not at all. Az I've noted in this and other threads (do the research), the
Ciingular email over SMS doesn't work properly.

All the incoming message show as being from "36-245" in the inbox, and
replies to those messages go in to a black hole somewhere, and are never
delivered to the message originator.

The Cingular email over SMS is unusable for those reasons, and calls to
Cingular haven't helped.

If you have any hints on how to make that work, I'd sure appreciate your
constructive reply.

Bruce.

 

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"John S." <sexyexotiche@aol.comspamfree> wrote in message
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> ANYTHING other than a Motorola would be a better choice - as you have
found
> out, unfortunatly!

I'm afraid that seems to be true on more than one front. The camera quality
seems to be very poor compared with others I've seen of similar resolution.

Bruce.

 

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In <bfcMc.10704$f4.6560@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> on Fri, 23 Jul 2004
17:52:07 GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote:

>"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote in message
>news:Mh7Mc.16816$GT3.5874@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

>> You can send "email" through Cingular over SMS in the same manner using
>> Cingular's SMS gateway. In all your hard research before flaming, I guess
>> you missed that.
>
>Not at all. Az I've noted in this and other threads (do the research), the
>Ciingular email over SMS doesn't work properly.

As he wrote, the Cingular SMS-email *Gateway* works properly.

>All the incoming message show as being from "36-245" in the inbox,

The sending email address is at the beginning of the SMS message.

>and
>replies to those messages go in to a black hole somewhere, and are never
>delivered to the message originator.

You need to address your messages properly. That's a snap on my SE Z600 --
I just highlight the sending email address, press Send, compose the email
message, and then send it to the SMS-email Gateway (121).

>The Cingular email over SMS is unusable for those reasons,

Works fine.

>and calls to
>Cingular haven't helped.

Did you buy the phone from Cingular? If so, it should have been
auto-provisioned properly.

>If you have any hints on how to make that work, I'd sure appreciate your
>constructive reply.

Just as I'd sure appreciate your more constructive attitude. ;-)

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In article <_TeMc.3884$54.55658@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <bfcMc.10704$f4.6560@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> on Fri, 23 Jul 2004
> 17:52:07 GMT, "Bruce Chastain" <bchastain@XNOSPAMXhyperfeed.com> wrote:
>
> >"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote in message
> >news:Mh7Mc.16816$GT3.5874@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> >> You can send "email" through Cingular over SMS in the same manner using
> >> Cingular's SMS gateway. In all your hard research before flaming, I guess
> >> you missed that.
> >
> >Not at all. Az I've noted in this and other threads (do the research), the
> >Ciingular email over SMS doesn't work properly.
>
> As he wrote, the Cingular SMS-email *Gateway* works properly.
>
> >All the incoming message show as being from "36-245" in the inbox,
>
> The sending email address is at the beginning of the SMS message.
>
> >and
> >replies to those messages go in to a black hole somewhere, and are never
> >delivered to the message originator.
>
> You need to address your messages properly. That's a snap on my SE Z600 --
> I just highlight the sending email address, press Send, compose the email
> message, and then send it to the SMS-email Gateway (121).
>
> >The Cingular email over SMS is unusable for those reasons,
>
> Works fine.
>
> >and calls to
> >Cingular haven't helped.
>
> Did you buy the phone from Cingular? If so, it should have been
> auto-provisioned properly.
>
> >If you have any hints on how to make that work, I'd sure appreciate your
> >constructive reply.
>
> Just as I'd sure appreciate your more constructive attitude. ;-)

Care to point us to a Cingular URL with instructions?

 

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In <rmarkoff-873157.16203323072004@news6.west.earthlink.net> on Fri, 23 Jul
2004 21:20:33 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:

>In article <_TeMc.3884$54.55658@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>> Just as I'd sure appreciate your more constructive attitude. ;-)
>
>Care to point us to a Cingular URL with instructions?

I've already done that, as you should know if you've been paying attention.

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In article <%lfMc.3892$54.55739@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> In <rmarkoff-873157.16203323072004@news6.west.earthlink.net> on Fri, 23 Jul
> 2004 21:20:33 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:
>
> >In article <_TeMc.3884$54.55658@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> >> Just as I'd sure appreciate your more constructive attitude. ;-)
> >
> >Care to point us to a Cingular URL with instructions?
>
> I've already done that, as you should know if you've been paying attention.

So arrogant.

 

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<http://alliance.cingularinteractive.com/products/pdf/DeviceSoftwareSetti
ngs.pdf>

Is more of a reference manual than a how to.


But how does one get there from
http://www.cingular.com ?

 

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In <rmarkoff-EB8316.16284623072004@news6.west.earthlink.net> on Fri, 23 Jul
2004 21:28:46 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:

>In article <%lfMc.3892$54.55739@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> In <rmarkoff-873157.16203323072004@news6.west.earthlink.net> on Fri, 23 Jul
>> 2004 21:20:33 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <_TeMc.3884$54.55658@typhoon.sonic.net>,
>> > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Just as I'd sure appreciate your more constructive attitude. ;-)
>> >
>> >Care to point us to a Cingular URL with instructions?
>>
>> I've already done that, as you should know if you've been paying attention.
>
>So arrogant.

I didn't think so.

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In <rmarkoff-37E6A5.16355123072004@news6.west.earthlink.net> on Fri, 23 Jul
2004 21:35:51 GMT, "Røbert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:

><http://alliance.cingularinteractive.com/products/pdf/DeviceSoftwareSetti
>ngs.pdf>
>
>Is more of a reference manual than a how to.

Indeed. It's for those determined to walk their own path without help from
Cingular. If you want help from Cingular, then you need to have a phone
supported by Cingular, and use OTA provisioning, which makes it dead simple.

>But how does one get there from
>http://www.cingular.com ?

One doesn't, as should be obvious -- such documents aren't appropriate for
average consumers.

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