[SOLVED] possible ethernet split

[Keith704]

I have Fois internet service. It is provided by Frontier (previously Verizon). My service comes in through the garage wall then up through the attic. My garage is detached from the house and when using my laptop in the garage the wireless signal is poor to non existent. The service box on the outside wall is directly behind the table where my laptop sits. Here is my question. When I open the "customer" side of the outside box there is a cable plugged in marked ethernet. This cable runs down the box and loops around to the back inside (Frontier's side) of the box. Can I put a splitter in the ethernet port in the box and plug the end going to the house in one side and put a cable in the other side and send it through the wall for my garage laptop? I dont waant to mess anything up or effect the internet speed in the house. All advice is appreciated. Keith

 

[RealBeast]

I have Fois internet service. It is provided by Frontier (previously Verizon). My service comes in through the garage wall then up through the attic. My garage is detached from the house and when using my laptop in the garage the wireless signal is poor to non existent. The service box on the outside wall is directly behind the table where my laptop sits. Here is my question. When I open the "customer" side of the outside box there is a cable plugged in marked ethernet. This cable runs down the box and loops around to the back inside (Frontier's side) of the box. Can I put a splitter in the ethernet port in the box and plug the end going to the house in one side and put a cable in the other side and send it through the wall for my garage laptop? I dont waant to mess anything up or effect the internet speed in the house. All advice is appreciated. Keith

You cannot split an Ethernet connection -- you would need to place a switch in the line --- assuming that the line is AFTER the modem connection. You cannot split the Internet input from your ISP prior to the modem at all.

What you will need to do is to run an Ethernet cable from your router (attached to an LAN port) back to the garage somehow. If you can provide a rough drawing of the layout it may help.

Another possibility -- IF the garage is on the same breaker box as the main house, you could use a pair of AV2-1000 or better powerline adapters to get the Internet to the garage if an Ethernet cable is not possible.

 

[Keith704]

You cannot split an Ethernet connection -- you would need to place a switch in the line --- assuming that the line is AFTER the modem connection. You cannot split the Internet input from your ISP prior to the modem at all.

What you will need to do is to run an Ethernet cable from your router (attached to an LAN port) back to the garage somehow. If you can provide a rough drawing of the layout it may help.

Another possibility -- IF the garage is on the same breaker box as the main house, you could use a pair of AV2-1000 or better powerline adapters to get the Internet to the garage if an Ethernet cable is not possible.

The garage is connected to the house by a breezeway. All the electric and comms go thru the attic of the breezeway into the house and that is a long way thru deep insulation.

I have never heard of your second option. The fuse panel for the house is in fact in the garage only 2 feet from where I need a connection. I will try and get "schooled up" on these power line adapters. I really appreciate your taking time to respond to my post and wish you the best!!!!

Sincerely
Keith

 

[beers]

Hi Keith,

As above, splitters in Ethernet aren't really a thing. There are some on the market but they are a complete hack job and not really advised as there are better options for that such as a shared uplink on a switch.

The other reason you wouldn't want to split outside as that is the WAN/ISP side of the connection and not your internal network.

Realistically running a cable from your router's LAN to the garage would be ideal, although also as above, you can use powerline adapters or something similar to reach that area if it's not feasible to run an ethernet cable directly. Keep in mind those adapters can vary quite a bit for performance as there are a lot of variables for home electrical wiring.

 

[SamirD]

A picture of the box would help us figure out what can be done.

Powerlines and potentially even moca (which transmits ethernet over cable wire) are great options to not running wire.

 

[RealBeast]

I would crawl through a whole attic of insulation to run an Ethernet cable, but most would not. 💩

I say forget MOCA (it never got the support it deserved), and look at an AV2-1000 or better powerline pair. They use MIMO with the ground wired now compared to older versions.

HERE are some examples of good units and any later models of any of them. You should see at least 180-220 Mbps with low latency. You also have the choice of going with a powerline with the garage end having wifi like THIS ONE (or you can just attach a cheap AC router configured as an AP in the garage if that is convenient -- that works well and I've done hundreds of such installs with very good results allowing you to have the low latency of a wired connection and convenience of wireless for phones or internet surfing.

Just avoid old powerline units like AV600 and lower -- they are very slow and not worth using.

 

[SamirD]

I would crawl through a whole attic of insulation to run an Ethernet cable, but most would not. 💩

I say forget MOCA (it never got the support it deserved), and look at an AV2-1000 or better powerline pair. They use MIMO with the ground wired now compared to older versions.

HERE are some examples of good units and any later models of any of them. You should see at least 180-220 Mbps with low latency. You also have the choice of going with a powerline with the garage end having wifi like THIS ONE (or you can just attach a cheap AC router configured as an AP in the garage if that is convenient -- that works well and I've done hundreds of such installs with very good results allowing you to have the low latency of a wired connection and convenience of wireless for phones or internet surfing.

Just avoid old powerline units like AV600 and lower -- they are very slow and not worth using.

lol, ethernet cable ftw!

I actually find moca to be a lot better than powerlines since they can hit true gigabit speeds, which powerlines cannot.

Powerlines are great for just being 'plug and play', but I've found moca to be just as easy once any wiring issues are sorted out, but with much better performance (900Mbps+ iperf results).

Still, without a picture from the OP, I really don't know what's the best approach at this point.

 

[RealBeast]

MOCA is great, if you have the cabling in the walls in the correct places, although it is a bit more expensive and a lot fewer companies seem to sell the 2.0 products for some inexplicable reason. Besides, shouldn't copper cables really be DAC SFP+ or fiber @ 10Gbps. 😉

 

[SamirD]

MOCA is great, if you have the cabling in the walls in the correct places, although it is a bit more expensive and a lot fewer companies seem to sell the 2.0 products for some inexplicable reason. Besides, shouldn't copper cables really be DAC SFP+ or fiber @ 10Gbps. 😉

Who needs moca 2.0, when moca 2.5 is the same price? 😀

 

[RealBeast]

Who needs moca 2.0, when moca 2.5 is the same price? 😀

The more important question is whether the OP has cable from the router to the garage, otherwise MOCA is just what it is, a limited use capability that has not caught on due its limitations.

Try to actually help the users, determine what they have available and make it work, all else is silly.

 

[SamirD]

Try to actually help the users, determine what they have available and make it work, all else is silly.

I asked for a picture of the box in post #4--there's no way to even begin a solution here without it.