Possible Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Bottlenecking

[AirEnderman]

I recently upgraded my GPU from an msi Geforce GTX 660 to an EVGA Geforce GTX 150 Ti SC and expected a great performance increase. However, nothing at all seems to have changed according to FPS tests I've done. Heck, Minecraft with shaders ran at like 32FPS max, but generally remained below 30FPS. My specs are currently 16GB of DDR3 1333Mhz RAM, an Intel Core i5-3570 3.4Ghz, and an EVGA Geforce GTX 1050 Ti SC 4GB. I'm concerned that, perhaps, my CPU is bottlenecking my graphics card. I have tried all I can with uninstalling my graphics drivers with DDU and reinstalling them and rebooting my PC afterwards and updating my BIOS, etc., but nothing seems to work. Any chance that my CPU is the problem?

 

[Samaratin]

I don't think it's your cpu.. i think it's most likely a driver or setting issue instead

 

[AirEnderman]

I don't think it's your cpu.. i think it's most likely a driver or setting issue instead

Please explain. I mean, all of my drivers are completely up-to-date, and I don't know what setting I'd have to change to fix this.

 

[Multipack]

Check your CPU usage. If it's at 100% it's bottlenecking. That's usually the case when fps dont improve when upgrading a GPU.

 

[Samaratin]

an i5 ain't gonna bottleneck a 1050ti...

 

[AirEnderman]

Check your CPU usage. If it's at 100% it's bottlenecking. That's usually the case when fps dont improve when upgrading a GPU.

Alright, so I ran Minecraft, and as soon as I opened a world (with shaders) it quickly shot up to 100% but quickly settled back down to about 36% usage, but I'm still stuck between 23-32 fps. I also didn't mean to mark your previous response as "Best solution." :/ Any other suggestion?

 

[AirEnderman]

an i5 ain't gonna bottleneck a 1050ti...

What do you think is going on then? One suggested that my 1333Mhz RAM speed was questionable, even though I have 16GB of RAM installed.

 

[Samaratin]

Ok, does the GeForce experience have game optimization for Minecraft? If so.. is there any difference to what they optimize at, and what you set game graphic settings as yourself?

 

[AirEnderman]

Check your CPU usage. If it's at 100% it's bottlenecking. That's usually the case when fps dont improve when upgrading a GPU.

I also tried to fly around to get as many chunks to render as possible, and can only get the CPU usage up to 55%. If my CPU isn't bottlenecking, what do you think the problem could be. I mean, I don't have an SSD. I just have your everyday 2TB Hard Drive. My RAM speed is also 1333MHz, which someone said was slow, even with my 16GB of it. Idk, what do you think?

 

[Samaratin]

on a side note, while the 1050ti isnt' on Tom's GPU hierarchy chart, it's performance will most likely put it in the same box as the 960.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Which is only 2 steps above the 660

 

[AirEnderman]

Ok, does the GeForce experience have game optimization for Minecraft? If so.. is there any difference to what they optimize at, and what you set game graphic settings as yourself?

That's a funny thing, because Geforce Experience doesn't even recognize my Minecraft. It's a legitimate copy and everything, but Geforce Experience doesn't even make it an option for optimization. I'll run it again and check.

 

[Samaratin]

at hardwaresecrets.com if you click the memory category at the top, you can scroll thru their past stories.. you'll see comparisons of gaming performance with 4 vs 8 vs 16 gb ram. In some games 4gb beat out both 8 and 16. You'll also see stories of single vs dual channel, there really was no performance advantage in gaming for their tests... and additionally, speed differences in memory tested in game performance.. we're talking a few fps, not huge amounts

 

[AirEnderman]

on a side note, while the 1050ti isnt' on Tom's GPU hierarchy chart, it's performance will most likely put it in the same box as the 960.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Which is only 2 steps above the 660

Well 2 steps above the 660 doesn't get me equal/worse performance. I know for certain there is a problem somewhere. After all, I've seen others run games like BF1 at Ultra settings with my card at around 50-60 frames, and no other bit of hardware they had was so beyond anything that it would boost his performance like that.

 

[AirEnderman]

at hardwaresecrets.com if you click the memory category at the top, you can scroll thru their past stories.. you'll see comparisons of gaming performance with 4 vs 8 vs 16 gb ram. In some games 4gb beat out both 8 and 16. You'll also see stories of single vs dual channel, there really was no performance advantage in gaming for their tests... and additionally, speed differences in memory tested in game performance.. we're talking a few fps, not huge amounts

Oh ok, so any other suggestion as to what the problem might be?

 

[Samaratin]

Have you updated Java

 

[AirEnderman]

Have you updated Java

I actually downloaded the newest version a couple days ago. I'll reinstall it just to be sure, though

 

[Samaratin]

http://www.howtogeek.com/school/htg-guide-to-minecraft/lesson2/

good read for optimizing it

 

[Supahos]

Silly question I'm sure but 30-35 fps sound like onboard video. Your monitor is plugged into the 1050ti not your motherboard right?

 

[AirEnderman]

http://www.howtogeek.com/school/htg-guide-to-minecraft/lesson2/

good read for optimizing it

Alright, I'll take a look at it.

 

[AirEnderman]

Silly question I'm sure but 30-35 fps sound like onboard video. Your monitor is plugged into the 1050ti not your motherboard right?

Yeah, it's plugged into the HDMI on the 1050ti

 

[AirEnderman]

Check your CPU usage. If it's at 100% it's bottlenecking. That's usually the case when fps dont improve when upgrading a GPU.

Alright, so I ran Minecraft, and as soon as I opened a world (with shaders) it quickly shot up to 100% but quickly settled back down to about 36% usage, but I'm still stuck between 23-32 fps. I also didn't mean to mark your previous response as "Best solution." :/ Any other suggestion?

You should be getting 10 times that. Literally 200fps+. The CPU will always sky rocket when launching games, and if it was a more demanding game then bottleneck would absolutely be possible with an Ivy Bridge i5 but not in WoW. Read this https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17612841152?page=1

And yeah, check you aren't using your iGPU.

I mean, I am running shaders, which bumps everything up significantly, but I've seen this card tested with shaders applied and it still ran much better than it is now. Also, I'm not sure what my iGPU is.

 

[Multipack]

Sorry, misread it as Wow. An Ivy Bridge i5 could potentially bottleneck a 1050Ti on CPU intensive games but I doubt it'd happen here. Check your performance plan in Windows, and that you dont have any bg processes running. At ultra settings I doubt you'll get much higher fps...

 

[AirEnderman]

Sorry, misread it as Wow. An Ivy Bridge CPU could potentially bottleneck a 1050Ti on CPU intensive games but I doubt it'd happen here. Check your performance plan in Windows, and that you dont have any bg processes running. At ultra settings I doubt you'll get much higher fps...

I see. So how do I check my performance plan? Do I just go over to Task Manager and see how things are running or is that something completely different?

 

[Multipack]

Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Power Options and check it's in Performance mode.

And yeah just check Task Manager is the basic way. Anything you change will only give small fps increases I would imagine though.

 

[AirEnderman]

Sorry, misread it as Wow. An Ivy Bridge i5 could potentially bottleneck a 1050Ti on CPU intensive games but I doubt it'd happen here. Check your performance plan in Windows, and that you dont have any bg processes running. At ultra settings I doubt you'll get much higher fps...

I went on game-debate.com to check that and it showed that my specs (I guess for Minecraft without shaders) were wwaaaayyyyyy above the recommended. In fact, without shaders, I ran at nearly 300 fps, but that wasn't my goal, because my 660 did that. I was hoping that with this upgrade, I'd be able to see some somewhat significant performance increases. However, all I saw was, well, nothing. In fact, sometimes it performs worse. This is why I'm led to believe that my CPU is bottlenecking here. Here's a screenshot of Minecraft with shaders applied just for a reference.