Discussion Power supply discussion and review list thread

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Since it has been mentioned that our discussions in the tier list thread often take it off the rails, I thought it might be prudent to start a separate discussion thread. Questions or discussions regarding specific units, platforms or related PSU tech are all welcome to be discussed here.

To the effect that this is separate from the power supply tier list, I would ask that any questions pertaining to WHERE a specific unit might belong ON the tier list, be asked in the tier list thread. Everything else is pretty much open to the public but let's DO keep it at least MOSTLY PSU related.


The following list of power supply review links are being provided as a resource for users looking for a quality power supply among the many models currently available. I will actively try to NOT include models that are not available in any of the international markets, but since many models are available in one region even after being discontinued there may be models listed which are not available to you, but ARE available in other markets.

All of the PSUs with review links listed below can safely be chosen, based on personal criteria, with the knowledge that no matter which of them you choose, you will have chosen nothing worse than a good unit and possibly one that is great.

Also, this resource created by member raisonjohn offers extremely detailed specific information on a wide variety of models and series.



Thanks and happy hunting.



Power Supply reviews



BeQuiet SFX-L 600w Gold

BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 11 Platinum

Bitfenix Whisper series 550w Gold

Corsair CXm v2 650w Bronze

Corsair CXm v2 750w Bronze

Corsair CSm 850w Gold

Corsair TXm 750w Gold

Corsair RMx 550w Gold

Corsair RMx 750w Gold

Corsair RMx 850w Gold (White chassis)

Corsair HX (RPS0075) 850w Platinum

Corsair HX (RPS0076) 1000w Platinum

Corsair HX (RPS0077) 1200w Platinum

Corsair AXi 1600w Titanium

Enermax DigiFanless 550w Platinum

EVGA G3 550w Gold

EVGA G3 750w Gold

EVGA G3 850w Gold

EVGA G3 1000w Gold

EVGA P2 1600w Platinum

FSP Hydro PTM 750w Platinum

Seasonic S12II 430w Bronze

Seasonic S12II 520w Bronze

Seasonic M12II 620w Bronze

Seasonic M12II EVO 750w Bronze

Seasonic M12II EVO 850w Bronze

Seasonic G 360w Gold

Seasonic S12G 450w Gold

Seasonic G 450w Gold

Seasonic S12G 550w Gold

Seasonic G 550w Gold

Seasonic Focus Plus 550w Gold

Seasonic S12G 650w Gold

Seasonic G 650w Gold

Seasonic X 650w Gold

Seasonic Focus Plus 650w Gold

Seasonic Prime 650w Gold

Seasonic S12G 750w Gold

Seasonic X 750w Gold

Seasonic Focus Plus 750w Gold

Seasonic Focus Plus 850w Gold

Seasonic X 850w Gold

Seasonic Prime 850w Gold

Seasonic Prime 1000w Gold

Seasonic X 1050w Gold

Seasonic X 1250w Gold

Seasonic X v2 Fanless 400w Platinum

Seasonic X v2 Fanless 460w Platinum

Seasonic SS-520FL Fanless 520w Platinum

Seasonic Focus Plus 550w Platinum

Seasonic Prime 650w Platinum

Seasonic SS-660XP2 660w Platinum

Seasonic Focus Plus 750w Platinum

Seasonic Snow Silent-750 750w Platinum

Seasonic SS-760XP2 760w Platinum

Seasonic SS-860XP2 860w Platinum

Seasonic Prime 1000w Platinum

Seasonic SS-1050XP3 1050w Platinum

Seasonic Snow Silent-1050 1050w Platinum

Seasonic SS-1200XP3 1200w Platinum

Seasonic Prime 1200w Platinum

Seasonic Prime Fanless 600w Titanium

Seasonic Prime Ultra 650w Titanium

Seasonic Prime 750w Titanium

Seasonic Prime 850w Titanium

Seasonic Prime Ultra 850w Titanium

Seasonic Prime Ultra 1000w Titanium

SilverStone ST45SF V3 SFX 450W Bronze

Silverstone SX500-G SFX 500w Gold

Silverstone SX500-LG SFX-L 500w Gold

SilverStone SX600-G SFX 600w Gold

SilverStone SX800-LTI SFX-L 800w Titanium

Super Flower Leadex Titanium 1600w

Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 750w Gold

Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850w Gold

Thanks to Goldstone77, WildCard999, Jankerson and any others who have helped for their contributions to this resource.
 
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Corsair RMX White 850W

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Allan 'Zardon' Campbell August 24, 2016
https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/seasonic-prime-650w-titanium-power-supply-review/
by Aris Mpitziopoulos September 7, 2016 at 6:00 AM
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690.html
(By OklahomaWolf on Mon, Oct-31-2016)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=493
 

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The new Corsair AX1600i has been reviewed, and as expected an extremely good power supply.

There is no doubt that the AX1600i is better in every single way when compared to the AX1500i, and it is the best PSU I have ever tested currently. Some of you will then probably wonder why I gave it the same score as its predecessor. Well, standards now are different to those that applied when the AX1500i was reviewed, and I have to leave some room for an even better PSU, which I doubt will come out any time soon, however. Moreover, nothing is perfect in this world, so even the superb AX1600i has a couple of downsides with, firstly, its intimidating price tag and, secondly, though easily fixed with a new set of cables, the distance between its peripheral connectors being very short. For demanding situations, e.g. mining, although I doubt anyone would spend so much money to have this PSU's potential wasted on mining, some users might ask for a double-ball bearing fan instead of a fluid dynamic one; however, for most, the FDB fan is actually the one to prefer because it is quieter.
Techpowerup

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Tomshardware

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Darkbreeze

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Good deal. I'll probably start organizing these PSU review links sometime this evening or tomorrow. Even if you have links to older reviews, that's fine too although word of note, I'll probably clean up threads to say something like "so and so added three reviews" and only have the links to the actual reviews in the initial post, just so it stays somewhat clean. Or at minimum perhaps just put it in a spoiler like goldstone did. That way a single page doesn't take up ten miles.

Only on actual review links though. Any other posts or related discussions will stay as posted unless of course they are unacceptable due to content, expletives, etc.
 
Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690.html

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=493

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/seasonic-prime-650w-titanium-power-supply-review/


Seasonic Prime Titanium Ultra 650W

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=536

Seasonic Prime Titanium 750W

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=481

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/stefan/seasonic-prime-750w-titanium-power-supply-review/

Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-850w-titanium-psu,4761.html

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/seasonic-prime-850w-titanium-power-supply-review/

Seasonic Prime Ultra 1000W

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=538
 

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Spoilers work http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3612443/power-supply-discussion-thread.html#20571439
 

Darkbreeze

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Just a note, if the review site is someplace like Guru3D and ProClockers, that pretty much only does unboxing, teardown (Sometimes) and an overview, without any real in depth testing, I'm probably not going to add a link to that review. There needs to be worthwhile information in a review, I think, else it's just an unproven opinion. FWIW, I think primarily Jonny Guru, Tom's hardware, Hard OCP, Kit guru, TechPowerUp (Sometimes has duplicates of what is on Tom's since Aris does them for both sites. Will only add one link when this is the case), Anandtech and Eteknix (Some of their reviews. Many of their older reviews were not proper reviews as they did not have their active load tester and oscilloscope a while back. Case by case).


If there are other sites doing proper reviews we'll gladly look at those, again on a case by case basis, and include them when appropriate. For non-English reviews, I will probably not add those because the translations are poor in most cases and there are usually not sufficiently translated English versions. If you think there is one of these, not on a major review site that DOES merit inclusion, I'll be happy to take a look at it but if the translations turn out some nonsense like

"go on a diet for 3 years where I eat only power supplies. However, if I buy budget food, it won't come with many accessories. I can also get weather for cheap?"
Then it's probably not going to get added. Hopefully that's no sleight to anybody who might have done one of those reviews, it's just not entirely useful for the majority of our user base and most likely anybody who speaks that language natively will have already found it on their own and not need translation anyhow. If there are units with GOOD reviews, but poor translations, and somebody who speaks that language can both translate it into something meaningful AND authorize re-upping the review somewhere with the tester/publisher, then I'll be glad to add it. I don't think for the most part that eliminating non-English reviews is going to drastically affect things though.
 

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Instead of this just being a giant PSU review database, I believe we should just focus on commonly asked for power supplies. For example, the Cooler Master Masterwatt Lite (these are non-English, there are no English reviews that I know of. The ones from gecid could be translated by Google, for computerbase's review I recommend DeepL.com)

https://ru.gecid.com/power/cooler_master_masterwatt_lite_400/

https://ru.gecid.com/power/cooler_master_masterwatt_lite_700/

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-07/cooler-master-cougar-xfx-zalman-netzteil-test/

Those reviews are trustworthy IMO.

Also, orionpsudb.com is a great place to find platforms of different power supplies. It seems to be down right now, is that just me?
 

Darkbreeze

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It's not just you, Orions database site is down. Most of us have known of that site for a good many years now. Maybe he's making a change or something. I've seen recent posts by him over at the JG forum so I doubt it's down for good, but who knows.

I'm not going to limit reviews to only popular models. We get FAR too many members asking about other models. Seems like maybe you didn't read my posts or read but didn't hear. Fully half our power supply questions are from indo-asian members who do not have access to these "latest and greatest" models like we do in the US and UK. There are a lot of members who live in places where the S12II or CX550m might be the very best power supply available to them, either at all, or without paying astronomical fees to bring one in from someplace else and frankly most of them don't have the means to do that. So I will be including links to both old and new models. Seems only right that we try to address the needs of the entire multi-national community rather than just focusing on what works best for a select group of people.

And as I said on the non-English reviews, not doing it. If you want to translate it to something accurate and legible, and get permission from the author to repost it somewhere in English, then I'll be glad to take a look at that and link to it if it seems a-ok. Otherwise, some models may just have to be exluded. Since you've linked to them however, they won't go without at least some reference here anyhow.
 

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It would be interesting to get some reviews on some “budget” PSUs from India as what’s available makes it difficult to make a recommendation and usually what’s there is the Corsair VS series which isn’t exactly good but can do the job with a higher wattage PSU.
 

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Fully half our power supply questions are from indo-asian members who do not have access to these "latest and greatest" models like we do in the US and UK.
Yes, that is what I meant. For example the Cooler Master Lite is a commonly asked unit from indo-asian.

I just believe we shouldn't fill it with unit reviews no one would use so it doesn't clutter the list.

central source for locating relevant reviews easily,
Otherwise it may just end up being like the RealHardTechx PSU Review Database.

Anyways, here is a very good source for better efficiency ratings and noise ratings, and professional PSU testings database: https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=database
 

Darkbreeze

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The problem with this, as it has always been, is that there usually are NOT any reviews of them to link to. At least, not reputable ones. If there is a review you want linked and it meets the criteria, post it, and I'll put it up unless it's not a reputable review or is not in english. The problem with non-English reviews is that while you or I know how to only pull the info we need from those reviews, most people WON'T know how to do that as they are not familiar with the majority of PSU terminology plus when many won't know how to get it translated in the first place.

Others will simply disregard it within seconds once they see the reviews end up with a lot of garbled or nonsensical sentences after translation. That doesn't really help anybody to be honest. I'm not doing that for specifically that reason. This is a perfect example of why.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12284

There's a place for them, it just isn't here. Again, linking to them here in your post is fine, just not going to add them to the list of reviews. Too much lost in translation, and no, not the movie.
 

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Yes, I agree some translations can be distorted (and sometimes humorous), but those as you say cannot pull the info from those reviews, likely cannot pull them off of English reviews either. Besides readers jumping straight to the conclusion, and looking at what the reviewer rates it (which we know isn't always accurate as standards change among reviewers and over time), most do not know what any of the internals or testings mean, and how to compare them to internals and testings from other reviews.

For those wanting to understand these reviews, and learn about power supplies, here are some sources that can help;

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-power-supplies/
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/march/why-does-a-better-power-supply-mean-a-better-computer-experience
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supplies-101,4193.html
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-power-supply-protections/
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2053-power-supply-voltage-ripple-and-relevance
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13273
 

Darkbreeze

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Well, we can all have opinions. Fortunately mine is the only one that matters. JK.

Realistically though, I don't agree. I fully understand power supplies, at least as much as all but a handful of people, and there are many of those translated reviews that I even just end up leaving because even to me they are senseless after translation so I know they will just be confusing for a lot of other members.

I just can't agree that they have value for most people. Bad enough for a guy in India who halfway understands English to try and figure out what a badly translated Dutch review is saying in some garbled, gibberish version of English. I assure you that translations to other than English languages are much, much worse.

You are of course more than welcome to create your own discussion thread with links to any reviews you see fit to link to, and if you'd like those to all be non-English language reviews then that's your prerogative AND I'd be happy to link from here to your post with a note indicating that non-English language review links can be found there.
 

Darkbreeze

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Believe me, I want to include any and all reviews that are both reliably in depth/reputable and can be understood. If there is a review that needs to go up and can be fully understood with no nonsense or gibberish translations, I'll be the first one to put it up. Even if it's not one of the big well known sites, if the review is well done and offers a real perception of that units pros and cons, both electrically and physically, I'm all for inclusion. Otherwise, much as I'd like every unit worth looking at out there have a link from here to somewhere, there may have to be units that just can't go up.

There are actually a lot of lower wattage but really good units like that with no valid reviews because the companies don't send review samples out or they are simply not headline catching enough. Personally, I'm sick to death of seeing 1000w+ reviews and would like to see a whole lot more reviews in the 350-550w range, since that's where 90% of current systems are sitting at. Maybe we'll see things shift as that target becomes more prominent compared to older systems that actually needed the 650-850w units for high powered or dual card systems. Dual cards are disappearing, so aside from miners, maybe the big PSUs will too.
 

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Well, the process nodes are shrinking offering lower power and higher performance as well. Realistically, how much longer will PSU last in their current state? Technology would have to make a big change from the path(shrinking) that it has followed for half a century now.
 

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Isn't that true for EVERY single thing that people come here looking for?

It's ALL been seen, done and dealt with at some point. There are threads covering every possible thing anybody could ever have or ever will have go wrong with their hardware. Unless somebody is strictly looking for an OPINION, there is no point posting a new thread on any subject, on this or any other forum, if we took that tact. So yes, they CAN find those reviews by Googling them. But they could also solve all the other issues they come here for by Googling it as well, if they weren't mostly all too lazy to put in the work. I guess that's the point.

But you're right, everything anybody can think of to make things easier for people is just a big waste of time. We should all just kill ourselves and be done with it. I mean, it's not like anybody is going to do anything new or meaningful anyhow right? We'll just let Google have the planet since there's no need for us anymore. :heink:


PS, most of the people who will find this useful are people who wouldn't know WHAT to google in the first place. Hence, lists like this give them a good place to start LOOKING at specific models, based on the fact that somebody thought they were good enough to warrant review in the first place.
 

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My point exactly. CPUs and GPUs are both using less and less power, even when overclocked, so aside from miners using many cards (And even then many of them are preferring to use multiple power supplies rather than one large one) I can only see the demand for big power bricks dropping further and further each year.
 

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The other good thing about this thread is we can discuss things of this nature about power supplies without being off topic!
 

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