power supply (smps)

[Navnish Bhardwaj]

yo,
i have beetel model no. BT-450R

ITS 230V WRITTEN ON THE OUTSIDE OF SMPS.
I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WATTS IS THAT.
BECAUSE I WANT GRAPHIC CARD .EITHER GTX 650 OT 550 ti .

OR ANY OTHER BETWEEN 8K OR 8500.

GUYS PLS GIVE OPTIONSS..

 

[RetiredChief]

1) The 230V is simply the input AC Voltage.

2) From what I've found: is that the total max output rating is 450 Watts. More important is the +12V capabilities, looks like it is rather Low at 22Amps (22 x 12 = 264 Watts. (Note it should have a sticker/label telling you what the +5V, +3.3V and the +12V can supply.

3) The +12V wattage (AMPS) is the most important as this supplies power to your CPU, GPU, HDD and DVD drive.

4) Without knowing your CP if I use a max power of 95 W and a max of 100 W for CPU (Both the GPUs you referenced are low power) you should be boarderline OK, but hard to call, like I said you only have 265 Watts (22 Amps) max for the +12V

 

[Navnish Bhardwaj]

1) The 230V is simply the input AC Voltage.

2) From what I've found: is that the total max output rating is 450 Watts. More important is the +12V capabilities, looks like it is rather Low at 22Amps (22 x 12 = 264 Watts. (Note it should have a sticker/label telling you what the +5V, +3.3V and the +12V can supply.

3) The +12V wattage (AMPS) is the most important as this supplies power to your CPU, GPU, HDD and DVD drive.

4) Without knowing your CP if I use a max power of 95 W and a max of 100 W for CPU (Both the GPUs you referenced are low power) you should be boarderline OK, but hard to call, like I said you only have 265 Watts (22 Amps) max for the +12V

ok you were right retiredchief '.i think these are WRITTEN ON THE STICKER ON SMPS.YOU HAVE TO REPLY.HOW MUCH IS LEFT FOR MY GTX 550 TI GPU.
AC ... voltage current frequency
INPUT 230v 5A 50HZ

DC orange red yellow blue purple grey
output +3.3V +5A +12V -12V 5V N/A
max. 22A 23A 22A 0.5A 2A OK

 

[ssddx]

you need to list all of your pc hardware to know that.

do a power calculation (search google)

does the psu have the right connectors?

 

[Navnish Bhardwaj]

you need to list all of your pc hardware to know that.

do a power calculation (search google)

does the psu have the right connectors?

ok i have intel core i3 2120-cpu.3.30ghz
installed memory ram 2gb
system type 64 bit
500 gb hdd
22'' led screen
and 450w power supply

which 1 should i choose....gtx 550 ti or gtx 650

 

[RetiredChief]

Performance wise: There is very little difference.
The Link below is a very good way to compare. You will notice that for Most games the differences are only about 2 FPS. However (scooting down you will also find that the Power requirements (This is TOTAL system power) is 286 Watts for the 550 ti and 231 Watts for the 650. SO based on that I’d go with the 650.
Ref link: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=681

An Alternative would be the Newer AMD 7770. If you look at the top of the Link (Heading GPU12) you can select which two GPUs to compare. Higher FPS, only slightly more power – 250W which is only 19W more than 650 but 36 Watts lower than 550 ti
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=681
Then there is the 7750 which is about equivalent to the 650 which ONLY has 216 Watts which is the LOWEST of all 4

Based on performance vs cost the 7770 would be my choice, based on Power the 7750 has the lowest power requirements. ALL 4 should be able to run off of your PSU. I have listed the TOTAL system power for a typical system – YOURs based on what you listed should be slightly less. Added - Total System power is for all Rails not just the +12V. However as I said earlier the Majorty of the power is from the +12V.
Your system, For the +12V, will probably be =< 200 Watts and you have upto 264 Watts (200/264 = 75%) End Added

Cost wise, Based on US Newegg prices, Unless $20 is a deal breaker then the 7770 is a clear winner.
7770 and 650 very close, is $115 -> $120. The 7750 is the cheapest @ $100. 550ti approx $115

 

[Navnish Bhardwaj]

you need to list all of your pc hardware to know that.

do a power calculation (search google)

does the psu have the right connectors?

Performance wise: There is very little difference.
The Link below is a very good way to compare. You will notice that for Most games the differences are only about 2 FPS. However (scooting down you will also find that the Power requirements (This is TOTAL system power) is 286 Watts for the 550 ti and 231 Watts for the 650. SO based on that I’d go with the 650.
Ref link: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=681

An Alternative would be the Newer AMD 7770. If you look at the top of the Link (Heading GPU12) you can select which two GPUs to compare. Higher FPS, only slightly more power – 250W which is only 19W more than 650 but 36 Watts lower than 550 ti
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=681
Then there is the 7750 which is about equivalent to the 650 which ONLY has 216 Watts which is the LOWEST of all 4

Based on performance vs cost the 7770 would be my choice, based on Power the 7750 has the lowest power requirements. ALL 4 should be able to run off of your PSU. I have listed the TOTAL system power for a typical system – YOURs based on what you listed should be slightly less. Added - Total System power is for all Rails not just the +12V. However as I said earlier the Majorty of the power is from the +12V.
Your system, For the +12V, will probably be =< 200 Watts and you have upto 264 Watts (200/264 = 75%) End Added

Cost wise, Based on US Newegg prices, Unless $20 is a deal breaker then the 7770 is a clear winner.
7770 and 650 very close, is $115 -> $120. The 7750 is the cheapest @ $100. 550ti approx $115

hey buddy thx.. i just asked my dealer for smps details ,he says its 500 watts..i dont know if i should him,but i think its atleast 450 watts ,thats minimum i think for 500rs. available anywhere.

and my choice i think will be asus amd/ati hd 7770 as my led screen is 22''

on the contrary thx bro..

 

[RetiredChief]

Also:
Highly recommend you increase your Ram to 4 Gigs.
1) You did not indicate which OS you have ie 32 bit or 64 Bit. If 32 Bit then 4 gigs is the max you can use, with 64 bit typically the Max is 16 gigs which is the limit imposed by Windows 7 Premium (Higer versions allow more than 16 gigs).
2) You did not indicate what ram you have, ie is it Two x 1 Gig sticks or is it One 2 gig Module. If only one module then you are running single channel, NOT the recommended daul channel mode.
.. If you have one 2 gig memory module then you can simply buy 1 IDENTICAL 2 gig Memory module. If two 1 gig modules then you could add two additional 1 x 1 gig modules. Alternately rather than 4 x 1 gig modules you could buy 2 x 2 gig modules.
$ gigs (2 x 2), Approx $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006127%20600006066%20600000261%20600006157&IsNodeId=1&name=9
2 gigs:
1 x 2: aprox $20 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006127%20600006061&IsNodeId=1&name=2GB
2 x 1 (LIMITED Choices from Nwegg): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231185&IsVirtualParent=1

NOTE Also if adding to your existing Ram needto look at speed. The Default spped for your CPU is DDR3-1600. The Modules I have listed are all DDR3-1600. Sof if your existing ram is DDR3-1333 and you opt to add, not replace then you should stick with the DDR3-1333.
DON'T know, then download/install, then Run CPUID CPU-Z and look a the Memory tab - that will tell you HOW the memory is being used (SPeed/Timing/an single or daul channel). The SPD tab will identify manuf, speeds and timings that are stored in the memory. NOTE also verify voltage, should be 1.5V ram. Low voltage ram (ie 1.35V ram) will void the warranty for your CPU as will 1.65 Volt ram.
Link to CPU Z: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

 

[RetiredChief]

First: I do not go by “recommended”, nor do I use the “calculators”.
What I do Use is a “review of the GPU (in this case a AMD HD 7770), then look at the system configuration.
… Recommended are based on the assumption a “LOW-End PSU” is used and the other system components are based on a unknown system configuration ; therefore the recommended is higher. The Online calculators also factor in unknown PSU, ie Quality and what +12V rail Current limit is.

Based On http://www.anandtech.com/show/5541/amd-radeon-hd-7750-radeon-hd-7770-ghz-edition-review/23
System: CPU i7-3960x that was OCed to 4.3 GHz (Requires Much more power than yours) 16 Gigs of Ram vs your 2 gigs (or as I recommend you goto 4 gigs). No HDD, they used a 256 Gig SSD and NO DVD drive (Small difference of say 15 Watts), Higher end MB.
Idle system power is ONLY 106 Watts
Total system power running Metro 2033 is 250W

Based on your system, and going with 4 Gigs of Ram – You should be equal to or less than 200 Watts max For Your +12V which the Most IMPORTANT

Here is a suggestion: down load HWMonitor and check your +12V with your current configuration.
Need to Look at the +12 Voltage, NOT at idle, but running a game (I use Furmark in a window)
HWMonitor: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
FurMark: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
As Long as the +12 V is=> 11.6V, then repeat with New GPU and again if your +12V is still greater than 11.6V you are OK.
Specs for the +12V is 11.4V->12.6V If HWMonitor shows some value less than say 10V – IT IS A BOGUS Value and you will need a different program to monitor your Voltage.

Need to check if 7770 requires a 6 pin power connector, if it does then need to check your PSU to verify if you have one. Scratch that - DOES not look like it needs it, it will get all of the power it needs from the PCI-e slot on the MB.

 

[Navnish Bhardwaj]

Also:
Highly recommend you increase your Ram to 4 Gigs.
1) You did not indicate which OS you have ie 32 bit or 64 Bit. If 32 Bit then 4 gigs is the max you can use, with 64 bit typically the Max is 16 gigs which is the limit imposed by Windows 7 Premium (Higer versions allow more than 16 gigs).
2) You did not indicate what ram you have, ie is it Two x 1 Gig sticks or is it One 2 gig Module. If only one module then you are running single channel, NOT the recommended daul channel mode.
.. If you have one 2 gig memory module then you can simply buy 1 IDENTICAL 2 gig Memory module. If two 1 gig modules then you could add two additional 1 x 1 gig modules. Alternately rather than 4 x 1 gig modules you could buy 2 x 2 gig modules.
$ gigs (2 x 2), Approx $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006127%20600006066%20600000261%20600006157&IsNodeId=1&name=9
2 gigs:
1 x 2: aprox $20 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006127%20600006061&IsNodeId=1&name=2GB
2 x 1 (LIMITED Choices from Nwegg): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231185&IsVirtualParent=1

NOTE Also if adding to your existing Ram needto look at speed. The Default spped for your CPU is DDR3-1600. The Modules I have listed are all DDR3-1600. Sof if your existing ram is DDR3-1333 and you opt to add, not replace then you should stick with the DDR3-1333.
DON'T know, then download/install, then Run CPUID CPU-Z and look a the Memory tab - that will tell you HOW the memory is being used (SPeed/Timing/an single or daul channel). The SPD tab will identify manuf, speeds and timings that are stored in the memory. NOTE also verify voltage, should be 1.5V ram. Low voltage ram (ie 1.35V ram) will void the warranty for your CPU as will 1.65 Volt ram.
Link to CPU Z: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

i have win 8 64 bit .2 gb ram in single slot ,i can make it 4 gigs .but how does 32 bit or 64 bit affects gaming performance and ram also .

 

[RetiredChief]

Not a gamer, But the diff is probably not much.
Since you have a single Ram Module, you can go with just adding one:
But here is the problem with just adding the One 2 Gig Module and that is that they should be matched, or at a Min their SPEED/Timings/Voltage should be Identical. This is the reason for Buying Matched sets. Buting a Matched set will add 25 Bucks to the cost, but probably worth it as they are "gauranteed" to work together vs the possibility that comes with trying to match them.

Not sure how much of a performance gain in real life between single channel mode vs dual channel mode. In theory it should double memory performance, but in real life NO. I know that it increases the WEI score for Memory considerably, ie from < 5 to around 7.