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Hello everyone I'm new to Tom's Hardware, but I figured this would be a good place to ask what power supply should I get for a custom gaming PC I am building. My original thought was to get something that was about 900-1000 watts. Below I have put links to all the hardware I plan on getting. I'm also open to suggestions for other pieces of hardware that would be more cost efficient or better performing. Thanks!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790&cm_re=MSI_970_GAMING_DDR3_2133_ATX_AMD_Motherboard-_-13-130-790-_-Product

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8350FRHKBOX-FX-8350-8-Core-Processor/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1441727995&sr=1-1&keywords=AMD+FX-8350&pebp=1441728001100&perid=144WPGS1BS27NVE693JM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104515&cm_re=ddr3-2133_hyper_x_savage-_-20-104-515-_-Product

http://www.amazon.com/Xigmatek-Shockwave-EN5988-Black-Computer/dp/B00R2HRO8K/ref=sr_1_19?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1441728687&sr=1-19&keywords=mid+gaming+case&pebp=1441728788530&perid=11EWR6287F7VGPR0CJK9

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Gaming-GDDR5-Graphics/dp/B00NH5T1MS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1441807308&sr=1-3&keywords=geforce+gtx+970
(I plan on getting the Windforce)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000DX001/dp/B00EIQTOFY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1441808107&sr=1-1&keywords=desktop+solid+state+drive

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Internal-UH12NS30-Blu-ray-Optical/dp/B00DVTBM2W/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1441808773&sr=1-2&keywords=bluray+drive
 
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Honestly this build will do better for gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($69.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $844.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-09 10:51 EDT-0400

Anyways for a GTX 970 a quality 520W or 550W will do.
Excellent Options:
Seasonic M12II
Antec High Current Gamer
XFX TS
XFX XTR
XFX Pro Series
EVGA GS
Cooler Master V Series
Antec NeoEco
 
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Hello ComputerEnthusiast96,

Unfortunately I'm pressed for time, so I'll keep my message short. Overall, you seem to be rather informed on the subject, as for your estimated wattage, the numbers appear to be in check with what would be necessary given the hardware components you have listed.

Personally, I prefer to purchase a complete desktop and then replace components from there, so I am not an authority on the subject, but I digress. As said, your numbers seem in check. May I recommend checking Ebay of Half.com for similar components? These websites are notoriously cheaper than what you have listed.

If you have anymore questions, you can contact me directly. My nickname is Dale.

Sincerely,
fhdhs
 
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Yes, sorry I forgot to mention in my post but have edited it to say that this is to be a custom gaming PC
 
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I'm simply going with the parts that you have decided to choose for your build (which I personally would not recommend, but that is not the question here), so I would recommend something along the lines of:

If on a budget: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EN3FD20?keywords=evga%20600w&qid=1441811004&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

If not: http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-P1-550B-BEFX-Fully-Modular-Supply/dp/B00IPD513K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441811068&sr=8-1&keywords=xfx+xtr+550w

KKAW has an excellent build set up for you.
 
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1000W is complete overkill for a single-GPU system. As KKAW said, a quality 500-650W PSU would get the job done perfectly fine, especially with the newer crops of more power-efficient GPUs that use 50-100W less peak power to achieve similar performance to the previous generation.
 
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This is completely misleading.

1. The build you listed will need a 550W PSU.
2. Complete desktop and replacing components? :??:
It will contain a poor quality PSU terrible for gaming builds like his. It will have poor airflow in the case. It will be overpriced. Every single component would be poor quality. If you are going to replace those poor quality components why on earth would you waste your money purchasing a pre built.
3. Rather informed on the subject? The FX 8350 is a poor option for gaming currently. It's fps stability is worse than it's intel counter parts. A more expensive motherboard is needed to keep up with the inefficient CPU. It's architecture is ancient and there is no upgrade path at all. All gaming benchmarks show the i5 4460 doing better than the FX 8350.
 
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i disagree with #3. the 8350 is not a poor option for gaming, but if you over clock an FX 8320 you pretty much get an 8350. and its also cheaper than the i5 4460 by $50 and OC-able. and with DX12 becoming more relevant, i'd say its a really good time to own AMD (the early benchmarks are pretty amazing). while intel has better per core performance and are more power efficient, its a long shot to call these higher end AMD chips "poor options". especially if you need to save a few bucks, most likely you wont see the difference with modern games. unless you get one that is very CPU intensive, which isn't many amongst popular games
 
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You have valid points.
There has been one early benchmarks. The CPU's did not see a big jump. However the AMD Graphics Cards seems to be making very big jumps +1 for AMD GPU's.

I've already went through a lot of posts today going over why the i5 4460 is the better option, this is why i'm choosing not to get into a full on debate.

Just my points:
1. unstable fps compared to i5 4460
2. ancient architecture, poor upgrade path. Upgrading to a FX 9000 series is a terrible idea because you will need an expensive motherboard and good cooling.
3. You need a decent motherboard. For a i5 4460 a quality $60 motherboard will do you fine. Quality $85 will do you even beter.
4. Fx 8350 has decent overclocking potential. You will need to buy a decent cooler which would be $35 and you will need a quality motherboard which is far more expensive than what you need on the i5 4460. Search all CPU based benchmarks on games and there is not a single time a i5 4460 will fall behind.
 
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1. actually, ive seen 3 sets of benchmarks all of them showing AMD making a significant jump in performance, while nvidia and intel see very minor changes. and just to clarify, the advantage of DX12 utilizes the CPU communication with the graphics card (amongst other improvements) so its really a +1 for AMD in general, not just their GPUs.

2. unstable FPS? says who? have you ever used and AMD chip? if so, which one? i have an OCed 6300 paired with a 290x, and my frames are very stable @ 60 with most games on ultra. some bottlenecking, sure, but minor.

3. the mobo i use was $80 new, and $60 used, with most of the newest feature. not sure what you men by expensive mobo

4.this one, i kinda agree. there really is no upgrade path after the 8350 right now. that is, until AMD releases ZEN in 2016. pair those with DX12 and i think you're going to have a good shift in market share.

5. yea you need a cooler. the hyper 212 evo is 24.99 on newegg currently, so im still saving money with the AMD option. and im pretty sure the 8320 (when OCed) would kill that 4460. i'd even go as far to say that my OCed 6300 would be AT LEAST on par with that chip. but i dont want this to turn into a pointless benchmark war

im trying to raise good counter points and i'm not trying to be argumentative, but i think its unfair when people say AMD is a poor choice. its not a bad choice for any setup. but intels are better chips, if you want to pay almost twice as much for marginally better performance. point is amd should not be over looked, and dx12 is only going to make their chips more enticing in the near future.
 
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First of all I just want to thank everyone for their input. However I feel the need to clarify. On the topic of the CPU KKAW I appreciate the information on the Intel processor. The main reason I chose the AMD processor is because it is a little cheaper the core speeds are faster and has 8 cores for a generally low price not to include the fact I have been an AMD fan for a while. Now onto GPU I chose the GeForce because I currently have one in an older PC and have always been satisfied with it, but after checking out the Radeon R9 390X that you mentioned it does have 4GB more of VRAM than the GTX 970 for about the same price, so I am no leaning that direction 🙂 As far as motherboard and the case goes I chose these because obviously it has to be compatible for memory and CPU. If anyone has a suggestion for a better motherboard but is still compatible with my components please let me know! The case I chose just purely on the idea that I really like the look of the case. Finally, the topic of the PSU. I now see that my 900-1000w range was ridiculous as pointed out by a couple of you. I appreciate the ideas of PSUs to buy from elneelo and KKAW. I will leave this thread open a little longer before choosing a best answer. Again thank you for your help!!
 
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