Powercolor 9800SE can be upgraded to 9800 PRO

samkoo

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I just bought a Powercolor 9800SE video card couple days ago because my friend told me that it can be

unlocked 4 pixel pipelines to 8 pipelines. Then it will have 9800 Pro performance.

Firstly, I run the 3DMark03 1024*768 before I unlock the pipelines. The score is 3795. After I unlocked

it. I got 5611. That is so much different than before. The performance is very close to 9800 Pro. I also

can overclock the video card to 400/700 from 380/675. The score is 5818.

Maybe you will think how can 9800SE upgrade to 9800 PRO. Actually, you need the one 9800SE is using

exact PCB as 9800PRO. It is because the 9800SE has two kind, one is using 9700PRO PCB, the one I got is

using 9800PRO PCB. In case you don't know which one is 9800 PCB, I will give you my part no. of the card

(R98SE-C3). Both cards are using ATI R350 Chipset. The only thing different is the manufactuer locked 4

pipelines in 9800SE. Maybe some people will think it needs a lot of work to do it. I can tell you that

is a piece of cake.

The step to change the 4 pixel pipelines to 8 pixel pipelines for 9800 SE (128MB 256 bits)?

1) Download the Omega drivers 2.5.22 from omega homepage http://www.omegacorner.com/index_ati.html

2) When you start install the driver, you should pick the option "Soft-Mod 9800SE Omega Driver 9800SE ->

9800 NP/Pro/XT".

3) Actually, it is already unlock the other 4 pipelines when the driver finish installed. However, you

may not really tell from video properties unless you run 3Dmark. If you want to see 8 pipelines from

9800SE. You should download riva tuner software http://download.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

4) After installed the riva tuner, you can see the 4 pipelines are already unlocked. It shows (8x1).

If you have line screen, don't worry, you can just uninstall the omega driver. It will back to normal

and then go exchange another one. Try it again. According to other forum. It has 60-70% will be succeed.

P.S. All the points can only be a reference. It may be different in other 9800SE.
 

Crashman

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First of all, you're a looser. You give us 4 month old information, and it's not correct:

1.) MOST 9800SE's use the 9500 non-pro PCB, the ones with 256-bit memory paths are using the 9700 Pro PCB
2.) ANY 9800SE can be unlocked, regardless of whether it has a 128-bit or 256-bit pathway. But the best performance comes from the 256-bit pathway cards
3.) There's a REASON 4 pipelines were disabled, and that reason is ATI found a flaw in at least 1 of them. Any unlocked 9800SE WILL have flaws in the image, but they might not be visable. And the chances of getting one with no visable flaws is around 50%, so it's not a sure thing.
5.) We already knew all this stuff before you told us anthing.

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cleeve

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You got it right Crashman, except maybe #3.

There are lots of unflawed 9800SE's out there. Remember, they sell more SE's than non-SE's, so in many cases they have to use fully functional 9800 GPUs for 9800SE's.

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coylter

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"First of all, you're a looser. You give us 4 month old information"

Crashman give him a chance...he is new to this forum.

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tombance

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Lol, A bit harsh Crashman, hes just excited because he thought he knew something we didnt :smile:

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Vapor

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I only wonder what happened to your fourth point...I liked the other four!

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tombance

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Ok ok so maybe it is. Its always funny to see someone who believes they are important, but in fact aren't.

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Crashman

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Sorry, I just saw a stranger comming in here, an ENTHUSIAST site, trying to make himself out to be another hero with old news he didn't even invent. A wannabe perhaps, from my perspective.

Lots of heros in here like GW...ooops, I'm not going to list names.

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Crashman

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Not to worry, YOU'RE important in here!

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I can be your hero baby.... :lol:

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GeneticWeapon

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Lots of heros in here like GW...ooops, I'm not going to list names.
I'm a hero to your Mom bitch :wink:


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Crashman

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Nice one, if that was the case you would have stopped my dad from pwning her ass...but anyway, say hi to yours for me. Sorry I forgot your birthday last year.

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GeneticWeapon

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Nice fight you started between us diklick. If you studied/researched a bit, you could know as much about graphics cards as I do....then none of this jealousy B.S. your obviously experiencing would even matter.


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Crashman

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Uh...what?

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Aww come on, he just wants to share his good news... Dont be so harsh on him...

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Crashman

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OK, ok, I relent.

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phial

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number 3 is not 100% true lol

its mostly due to yeilds , and i was under teh impression either you got one that worked, or oen that just doesnt work

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