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they make perfect sense. no viable competition = rising prices. there is no competition on the market right now for a skylake i7.

zero.

4 years ago piledriver was BARELY viable competition for nehelem, a 6 yo architecture. intel is almost 60% faster on IPC from that point, there literally is zero actual competition right now for the performance computer market.

oh sure, there is some argument for a 8 core fx at the $120 price-range, certainly some situations its superior to an i3 or even occasionally an i5, but really there is nothing AMD offers that competes with an unlocked i5 or ANY i7 cpu.

so intel has no market competition or motivation to lower prices; in fact the argument could be made the smart commercial move for them would be to raise prices across the board. it would increase their margins, raise income AND keep the low cost AMD alternative on life support a few years more to stave off federal antitrust regulators.
 
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This may seem over the top but do you guys think the U.S. government should look into this for possible violation of antitrust laws being broke? Basically should our government step in and say that intel has complete control over the market and should not be allowed to take advantage of the consumer. Again this is only your guys opinion
 
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So far they technically dont have a complete control, however they are getting there.
I wouldnt put it past intel to still be bitter over how AMD started, making carbon copies of intels own silicon and clocking them higher.

AMD had its time, the Athlon era, but that time has passed. They dont have the budget to do RND as much as intel, and they dont even own their own fab processing. The only way to get this funding is to compete, which they cant without the RND. Its a slippery slope, and has been since Phenom and the launch of Nephalem.
 
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Intel would probably just hand over gobs of money to AMD before it ever got that far. Also, in nearly every business, launch prices are high for those that just have to have it immediately. They could be high initially to offset their low stock and not cannibalize the remaining amount of current product.
 
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Actually you are right Intel did hand gobs of money over to amd back in 2009. Intel violated a antitrust law and they had to pay like $1 Billion to amd

 
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Honestly I dont mind a price increase.. Like most things prices have to go up for inflation or other things like resources. However when prices go up I also like to have a justification for buying the next gen product. I think intel is not giving us enough performance increase. I will still buy my cpu from intel and I will be happy. But deep down I kinda hope people dont buy these cpu's, so that intel will take a financial hit.
 
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I dont mind the price so long as its worth it, the price now for say a 4590 is bearable, but I would be happier if it was lower. i3s and the G3258 are some other examples that stirred up the market. Unlocked haswell under 100 bucks? sweet.
If intel could increase IPC or multi threaded performance by 30-40% I would wouldnt mind slamming some more money down.
 
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Intel needs to increase the clock rate back to match Haswell's. I don't know what they were thinking with Broadwell - lowering the stock clock rates really put people down, and no one buys Broadwell. I'll take another good 700Mhz for 20W more.
 
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I dont think there will be any 950(Ti) cards coming out, seeing as the 750Ti is maxell.
That aside, I too look towards the low end, Im running a phenom II from '09, holding on for dear life.

That also just reminded me my laptop I just bought has a broadwell processor, an i7 turbo to 3GHz? Oh boy... (/sarcasm)
 
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Lol might as well have a 18 core xeon 2.5 ghz
 
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In my laptop I have one of those 3rd gen I7 "U" processors. It turbos to 3.1Ghz I think (maybe 3.0).
 
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I would think these prices may be inflated due to being pre-orders. Also I find it odd that as much as I surf around as an enthusiast, the name 'pc connection' doesn't sound familiar at all. Above ncixus, tigerdirect, newegg, amazon, microcenter, etc etc, this no name place is the only one around with skylake's available for pre-order? Something sounds fishy. I think I'd put as much stock into it as I would seeing skylake for sale on ebay called 'skielayke e-7 6700k'. Just my .02 worth.
 
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They did so with permission, at first. Let's also not forget that without AMD, x64 computing wouldn't be what it isn't today considering how much better AMD's instruction set was than Itanium.

Intel really got their crap together when they decided to ditch that NetBurst crap, start from the solid base that was the Pentium III and out think (RND) AMD at every turn since with a structured development map that we know of as tick-tock. Core2 really started the momentum, though there were still great chips from AMD (Phenom II vs C2Q was an epic battle). Intel delivered a uppercut that AMD still hasn't recovered from with the Core i series, Sandy Bridge especially (to me) and then a body blow with the G3258, undercutting and outperforming AMD in the "cheapo" market that they'd been surviving on. Thus far, AMD's jaw has proven to be, if not glass, then safety glass, shattered but barely holding together.
 
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In a way, they aren't that different that today, only the choice was a Phenom II X4 vs a Core2 Quad that could cost three times as much.
 
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