Question Prebuilt suggestions and advice? - - my wife will kill me if I try and build one again....

Quwyn232

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Hi all,

It has been about 6-7 years since I built my current rig, and after the routine of stressing over the system not posting and all the fuss that goes into the building I swore to myself, and more importantly to my wife if I ever did upgrade I would get a prebuild rather than do it myself!

I used to think I was pretty up-to-date on components, but looking at the sheer volume of options out there at the minute, I was wondering if you guys might be able to point me in the right direction.

In short, it will be a total reset, save my mouse, keyboard, monitor and I would think my gaming SSD, so still looking at a main SSD for the OS and programs, and a standard bulk drive. The rest will most likely get cleaned down and shipped off to my folks, so power supply, case and everything out the window.

Happy to take any advice on parts, but in short I am not looking for something that I am paying 50% extra to get 10% more performance, just something that will play the current crop of games well and will still be there or there abouts in a few years.

Oh one last thing, and no offence to those that like it, but I have no interest in RGB at all, will happily take a plain jane black brick of a box as a case.

I am UK based, and have mostly used Scan in the past to buy items, but am totally flexible to use any other reputable company.

Approximate Purchase Date: Happy to go now, but this computer is still kicking so if there is a general feeling there is a price drop coming with new tech coming out, happy to wait.

Budget Range: Honestly have no idea, I dont need to spend more if I dont need to, I have no desire for it to be the best of the best. £1500 ish

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Pretty much everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Have used Scan in the past but flexible.

Location: UK

Parts Preferences: Dont mind

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 is my current, happy to stick with it.


Thanks for any help,
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Have you any preference for case style? A quick look at pre built gaming systems from the likes of Scan.co.uk, Chillblast.com, Novatech.co.uk, Cyberpowersystem.co.uk and Overclockers.co.uk show a prediliction for modern cases with multiple fans covering the entire front panel. Whilst excellent for cooling high power graphics cards, there's no space for antiquated concepts such as optical drives, ancilliary connector panels, etc.

You can sometimes specify fans with no LED bling, but you may have difficulty finding a ready built system with absolutely zero lighting effects from GPU, RAM, CPU cooler, motherboard, etc. I'd advise against a glass side panel if you prefer zero distractions from LEDs that cannot be turned off.

I doubt you'll find many pre built SLI or Crossfire systems these days. With the advent of the RTX 4090 series GPU range (£1599 to £2099 from Scan) there's usually no need to team multiple GPUs for extra gaming speed.

I'd advise against buying a gaming system from the likes of Dell, Currys, etc., if there's any chance you might want to update components in a few years time. Proprietary, non standard parts, often preclude easy hardware updates. Buy from a company that specifies the exact model number and manufacturer of each motherboard, DIMM, GPU and PSU used in their builds.

It's up to you whether or not you tweak the configuration of individual components before buying. You might be able to choose non-LED case fans, GPUs without LEDs, case side panels with no windows, etc.

You may also find the default build is a bit light on RAM, to keep the price down. 16GB should be regarded as the absolute minimum. Unless you intend to run high level rendering programs, you probably won't need more than 32GB. It is far better to fit two DIMMs at the outset. If you're tempted to add two more DIMMs at a later date, you may have to reduce your XMP overclock significantly to maintain stability. Stick to 2 DIMMs.

If there's any chance you might fit a considerably more powerful GPU in the future, consider upgrading the PSU to cope.

Check the amount of RAM on the graphics card. Most games are happy with 8GB. Some require 12GB, but others prefer16GB. In a few years' time, 20 to 24GB may become desirable.

Since cost does not seem to be a big issue, check the recommended hardware required for your favourite apps and games (not the minimum spec) and increase it by at least 25%, to partially future proof the system.

Some people upgrade their GPUs every 12 to 24 months, as software becomes more demanding. If you're not one of them, choose wisely at the outset. If you cheap out now, your system may seem too slow in a year's time.

I agree there's no point buying a system that allows game play at 240 frames per second on a 60Hz monitor, but you may be glad of the headroom in 3 years' time.
 
The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (£219.96 @ Box Limited)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£139.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *ADATA Legend 800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£71.48 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card (£429.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£97.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (£112.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (£9.00 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG249Q1A 23.8" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor (£159.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1423.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-13 08:49 BST+0100


A better look at those components.


https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-WIFI-DDR4

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...600kf-processor-20m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-uk

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LEBEqsCwiM
 
Have you any preference for case style? A quick look at pre built gaming systems from the likes of Scan.co.uk, Chillblast.com, Novatech.co.uk, Cyberpowersystem.co.uk and Overclockers.co.uk show a prediliction for modern cases with multiple fans covering the entire front panel. Whilst excellent for cooling high power graphics cards, there's no space for antiquated concepts such as optical drives, ancilliary connector panels, etc.

You can sometimes specify fans with no LED bling, but you may have difficulty finding a ready built system with absolutely zero lighting effects from GPU, RAM, CPU cooler, motherboard, etc. I'd advise against a glass side panel if you prefer zero distractions from LEDs that cannot be turned off.

I doubt you'll find many pre built SLI or Crossfire systems these days. With the advent of the RTX 4090 series GPU range (£1599 to £2099 from Scan) there's usually no need to team multiple GPUs for extra gaming speed.

I'd advise against buying a gaming system from the likes of Dell, Currys, etc., if there's any chance you might want to update components in a few years time. Proprietary, non standard parts, often preclude easy hardware updates. Buy from a company that specifies the exact model number and manufacturer of each motherboard, DIMM, GPU and PSU used in their builds.

It's up to you whether or not you tweak the configuration of individual components before buying. You might be able to choose non-LED case fans, GPUs without LEDs, case side panels with no windows, etc.

You may also find the default build is a bit light on RAM, to keep the price down. 16GB should be regarded as the absolute minimum. Unless you intend to run high level rendering programs, you probably won't need more than 32GB. It is far better to fit two DIMMs at the outset. If you're tempted to add two more DIMMs at a later date, you may have to reduce your XMP overclock significantly to maintain stability. Stick to 2 DIMMs.

If there's any chance you might fit a considerably more powerful GPU in the future, consider upgrading the PSU to cope.

Check the amount of RAM on the graphics card. Most games are happy with 8GB. Some require 12GB, but others prefer16GB. In a few years' time, 20 to 24GB may become desirable.

Since cost does not seem to be a big issue, check the recommended hardware required for your favourite apps and games (not the minimum spec) and increase it by at least 25%, to partially future proof the system.

Some people upgrade their GPUs every 12 to 24 months, as software becomes more demanding. If you're not one of them, choose wisely at the outset. If you cheap out now, your system may seem too slow in a year's time.

I agree there's no point buying a system that allows game play at 240 frames per second on a 60Hz monitor, but you may be glad of the headroom in 3 years' time.
Thanks for taking the time for such a detailed answer, I really appreciate it :)
 
The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor (£219.96 @ Box Limited)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£139.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *ADATA Legend 800 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£71.48 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card (£429.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£97.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (£112.99 @ AWD-IT)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (£9.00 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG249Q1A 23.8" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor (£159.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1423.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-13 08:49 BST+0100


A better look at those components.


https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-WIFI-DDR4

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...600kf-processor-20m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-uk

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LEBEqsCwiM
Thanks this is a great list to work from, I am back sitting on the fence as to building myself or taking a prebuilt, but in either case this is great information and I appreciate you taking the time to put it together.
 
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Scan are offering the following for £1580
ChassisCorsair 3000D RGB Airflow
MotherboardASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI
ProcessorAMD Ryzen 5 7600X, 6C/12T, 4.7GHz – 5.3GHz
CPU Cooler3XS 240mm ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler
Memory32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB 5600MHz DDR5
Graphics Card16GB AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT
Power SupplyCorsair RM750 - 80PLUS GOLD
System Drive2TB Corsair MP600 CORE XT M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD
Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows 11 Home
Recovery MediaRecovery USB drive with system image and diagnostic software
Warranty & Support3 Year Premium (Parts & Labour) Warranty - 1st Year Onsite, 2nd & 3rd Return to Base, including lifetime support
Accessories3XS Branded Corsair MM300 Mouse Pad, 3XS Mug & Cable Tie
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs...-12gb-amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt-2tb-m2-ssd-win-11

Thoughts very welcome
 
Or on Cyberpower, for around £1800


CAS: Corsair 4000D Gaming Case - Black - No Fans Included [+5]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 8-Core 4.20GHz, 5.00GHz Turbo - 96MB L3 Cache Processor w/ Radeon Graphics [+146]

CS_FAN: 4x Corsair AF120 ELITE High-Performance 120mm PWM Fluid Dynamic Bearing Fan [+39]

FAN: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Air Cooler

HDD: 4TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 5400RPM Hard Drive [+77] (1 Drive)

M2SSD: 2TB Solidigm 670P M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 3500MB/s Read & 2700MB/s Write (Single Drive)

MEMORY: 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5/5600mhz Corsair Vengeance Memory [+8]

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME B650-Plus: ATX w/ USB 3.2, 2x M.2 [+19]

OS: Windows 11 Home - with FREE trial of Microsoft 365 and 1 month Xbox Game Pass (64-bit Edition) (No Recovery Media)

POWERSUPPLY: Corsair RM750e 750W 80+ Gold Low-Noise ATX 3.0 Fully Modular Gaming Power Supply [+24]

PRO_WIRING1: Arctic MX-4 - Enthusiast Performance Thermal Paste (4g) [+9]

PRO_WIRING2: Professional Cable Wiring Care - Ensures all cables are optimally routed and secured to maximise airflow, prevent loose connections and provides an immaculate and organised look for your system [+19]

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO

VIDEO: AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DP, 4 MIN. Monitor Support [+187] (Single Card)

WARRANTY: DESKTOP GOLD WARRANTY: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts, 2 Years' Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support