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Prebuilt thats more powerful or Self built that looks better?

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I would take a prebuilt, for free. Ditch the PSU, motherboard, and case, and build something new. :lol: You may also want to consider a Ryzen 5 1600/1600x build. The 1600x can hold its own quite well, in multitasking, and gaming. The 1600 can be overclocked to at least match the 1600x, if not a bit higher. Modified your build, I don't really recommend those cheap $25 windows keys.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.55 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory:...
Why not save a little more and have both?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($313.67 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $1338.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-02 12:41 EDT-0400

This has a 500GB SSD, which is partly why it's more expensive. It's also a K sku for extra performance, and the motherboard is around the same price, and the cpu is +20$
 


You're not going to get that much of an overclock with that 212 EVO... a mild overclock, yes. anything between moderate and aggressive overclocking needs a better cooler, AND there are better coolers in the 212 EVO price range anyway.
 
You're not going to get that much of an overclock with that 212 EVO... a mild overclock, yes. anything between moderate and aggressive overclocking needs a better cooler, AND there are better coolers in the 212 EVO price range anyway.

And instead of that WD Blue SSD, you can get a Crucial MX200 525GB M2 SSD for literally the same price and you get more storage, plus you get an M2 drive.



An open box prebuilt? I wouldn't take it if it were free. Mass manufacturers like the one linked to are almost never truthful about the components that were being used, and "open box" means that it was returned for whatever reason, and most stores won't disclose what that reason the system was returned for was. If it's defective hardware, warranties don't usually cover returned systems. These systems are generally terrible and loaded with bloatware, and the manufacturers are never truthful about the power supplies included. If they don't disclose that in the specs, DO NOT BUY!

You're better off building yourself, but not knowing budget would help. OP - what is your budget?
 
I would take a prebuilt, for free. Ditch the PSU, motherboard, and case, and build something new. :lol: You may also want to consider a Ryzen 5 1600/1600x build. The 1600x can hold its own quite well, in multitasking, and gaming. The 1600 can be overclocked to at least match the 1600x, if not a bit higher. Modified your build, I don't really recommend those cheap $25 windows keys.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.55 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($122.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Plextor M7V 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.90 @ Newegg)
Other: Windows 10 Key ($25.00)
Total: $1127.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-02 17:04 EDT-0400
 
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Agreed. Sooner or later they tend to get black-listed, then the purchaser gets to deal with, at a bare minimum, the annoyance of the "not genuine" messages, or in a worse case scenario, prosecution for piracy. Not worth the hassle or the penalties.
 
Open Box Product

Open Box merchandise are products that have been purchased and delivered to other customers, and then returned to Newegg. Open Box products are sold considerably under cost. Newegg tests Open Box products for basic functionality only. Due to the varying quality of products returned to Newegg, Newegg makes every attempt to supply the original accessories for Open Box products. However, regardless of what the product description says, Newegg only guarantees that you will receive the product itself, accessories may or may not be included. Bear in mind that your open box product may not contain cables, adaptors, manuals, CDs, drivers, fans, etc. Additionally, the product may exhibit cosmetic imperfections as a result of its having been previously opened. Newegg will not send you any missing accessory, even if the accessory is required in order to properly make use of all the product’s advertised functions. While Newegg does not like to discourage sales, please purchase open box products only if you know how to deal with potential missing accessories.
 


You can also just, install windows and not activate it. so no need to pay for a pirated key.
 


It's better than an illegitimate key for sure, but at the same time it's not the full Windows experience. What you're getting by doing that is a stripped down version with limited access to the control panels and a giant watermark that's visible on the screen at most times.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($313.67 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($336.35 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.90 @ Newegg)
Other: Windows 10 Key ($25.00)
Total: $1157.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-03 01:44 EDT-0400
 
Newegg only guarantees that you will receive the product itself, accessories may or may not be included. Bear in mind that your open box product may not contain cables, adaptors, manuals, CDs, drivers, fans, etc. Additionally, the product may exhibit cosmetic imperfections as a result of its having been previously opened. Newegg will not send you any missing accessory, even if the accessory is required in order to properly make use of all the product’s advertised functions. While Newegg does not like to discourage sales, please purchase open box products only if you know how to deal with potential missing accessories.

Final Sales Product

Sales are final, no refund/exchanges/replacements

the psu is the cougar sl600 according to Q&A

i took a best guess at filling in the blanks of what it would cost brand new. (ram should forza and psu should be sl600 but the gpu is accurate as well as motherboard.. threw in a case as i couldn't find a match)

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cgd8wV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cgd8wV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($292.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($50.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($108.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($83.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.66 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card ($504.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Solution 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cougar 500W ATX Power Supply ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($9.33 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: Microsoft 900 Wireless Laser Mouse ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1286.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-03 02:19 EDT-0400
 

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