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Don't you all find it funny when you go to a discussion boards on videogames
to hear people talk of Nintendo as already one foot in the grave?
As if the buzzards & vultures are circling overhead already?
To hear people actually say that Nintendo should become 3rd party & get out
of the hardware business boggles the mind.
This isn't 1982 with the Colecovision anymore for God's sakes!
Gracious! Nintendo fuels most of the innovation that's been going on in
games (hardware & applications) SINCE the 1980's. If it weren't for them we
may not have HAD a gaming industry...at least not here in America. Not to
THIS scale anyway.
It's a pride thing.
You will never see a Mario or a Zelda or any other Nintendo trademark on
another system besides a Nintendo one ever again.
Why?
Because Nintendo's designs its hardware to match the software it develops.
Always has from day one.
And if they don't have the freedom to develop an interface & control setup
the way they want then they simply won't do it.
Not just that. It's more of company mindset. You can almost think of it as
the family business in a way. A particular brand of thinking. The uniqueness
that has set them apart for all of these years.
It's like any artist who creates something & wants his creation to receive
the proper respect & admiration. Protective of his works trusting them only
who is deemed worthy.
Nintendo isn't going anywhere ANYTIME soon. You can bet on that.
One who innovates....sustenates. Sustains.
The only reason Sega is no longer a hardware company (& I'm still sad to
know this) is because of the mistakes they made in the 16-bit/32-bit era
(Sega CD/32X/Saturn). The Dreamcast was a damned fine system. Full of that
true gamemaker innovation in the titles & the presentation. If it weren't
for the mistakes of the past we would still be talking about Dreamcast right
now.
Nintendo & Sega had 1st party power always. The company name on the system
ALSO made the games instead of just played others' own.
Sony & X-Box just don't have that. Never did.
Sony survives off of the mass market appeal due to the plethora of available
titles. The glut if you will. (you can find playstation games in Dollar
General stores & pharmacies now along with 2-liter bottles of RC cola)
Franchises who've left Nintendo went there & largely keep that ship
floating. That may not be forever & if it ever goes what will Sony have to
fall back on?
X-Box captures the disaffected market (many ex-Sega loyalists) who won't
join Nintendo, some computer gamers, & those who like room to customize due
to the hard drive. As well as online gaming fans.
Both of those capture the deluded contingent of people who think of
themselves as "adult gamers" (I'll have a post on this soon).
Yet innovation always has resided on Nintendo's side. They keep the industry
moving forward even if they don't dominate it like they did in the 1980's.
Nintendo has never been out of the fight. And over the past 10 years they've
been fortifying a loyal customer base that will give them bedrock they need
when they recapture their 3rd party power.
The Famicom was the name of the first system, guys. This was the same
company that censored the blood out of Mortal Kombat I on the SNES,
remember? They will ALWAYS keep the young market which is VERY smart. Babies
are being born everyday.
To think that the concerned parent market is a trifle is just foolish
thinking. Also over the years they've also become the most economical gaming
system. Double whammy. Which system will a concerned parent in this
Bushconomy buy more readily?
•Sony & Dead or Alive: the Bouncing Chronicles/Grand Theft Auto: Jacker's
Revenge for $350?
•X-Box 360 & Halo: Grunts for Heaven/Half-Life: DIE!!! for $400
•Nintendo & Super Mario: Where's My Princess?/Animal Crossing: Look Both
Ways for $200
Don't think I have to answer that do I?
Sure you have to think of all markets/consumers but Nintendo has fortified
the family position better than any company. The only reason they've lost
market dominance is purely volume issues. Those franchises that filled in
the gaps between Nintendo 1st party/2nd party releases largely have jumped
ship to the other two systems. Their 3rd party power isn't what it used to
be. That's all. And that's not a permanent condition. All it takes is one
thing to reverse that.
Anyone who thinks that Nintendo doesn't have a dog in this fight must have
only come along as a game player during the last 5 or 10 years.
I suggest to those individuals who think that way that Nintendo is the oak
that will see many comers & goers but will still be that tree standing when
it's all said & done.
They're not an electronics company. They're not a computer company. They're
a gaming company. Sega was a gaming company. And it is BECAUSE of that why
you will NEVER have to worry about a day that games aren't associated with
that iconic Japanese name any time soon.
Call it a day for Nintendo when they get rid of the likes of Shigeru &
company.
Until that happens enough of the Premature Nintendo Eulogies.
Any thoughts on my post, readers?
John Lucas
Don't you all find it funny when you go to a discussion boards on videogames
to hear people talk of Nintendo as already one foot in the grave?
As if the buzzards & vultures are circling overhead already?
To hear people actually say that Nintendo should become 3rd party & get out
of the hardware business boggles the mind.
This isn't 1982 with the Colecovision anymore for God's sakes!
Gracious! Nintendo fuels most of the innovation that's been going on in
games (hardware & applications) SINCE the 1980's. If it weren't for them we
may not have HAD a gaming industry...at least not here in America. Not to
THIS scale anyway.
It's a pride thing.
You will never see a Mario or a Zelda or any other Nintendo trademark on
another system besides a Nintendo one ever again.
Why?
Because Nintendo's designs its hardware to match the software it develops.
Always has from day one.
And if they don't have the freedom to develop an interface & control setup
the way they want then they simply won't do it.
Not just that. It's more of company mindset. You can almost think of it as
the family business in a way. A particular brand of thinking. The uniqueness
that has set them apart for all of these years.
It's like any artist who creates something & wants his creation to receive
the proper respect & admiration. Protective of his works trusting them only
who is deemed worthy.
Nintendo isn't going anywhere ANYTIME soon. You can bet on that.
One who innovates....sustenates. Sustains.
The only reason Sega is no longer a hardware company (& I'm still sad to
know this) is because of the mistakes they made in the 16-bit/32-bit era
(Sega CD/32X/Saturn). The Dreamcast was a damned fine system. Full of that
true gamemaker innovation in the titles & the presentation. If it weren't
for the mistakes of the past we would still be talking about Dreamcast right
now.
Nintendo & Sega had 1st party power always. The company name on the system
ALSO made the games instead of just played others' own.
Sony & X-Box just don't have that. Never did.
Sony survives off of the mass market appeal due to the plethora of available
titles. The glut if you will. (you can find playstation games in Dollar
General stores & pharmacies now along with 2-liter bottles of RC cola)
Franchises who've left Nintendo went there & largely keep that ship
floating. That may not be forever & if it ever goes what will Sony have to
fall back on?
X-Box captures the disaffected market (many ex-Sega loyalists) who won't
join Nintendo, some computer gamers, & those who like room to customize due
to the hard drive. As well as online gaming fans.
Both of those capture the deluded contingent of people who think of
themselves as "adult gamers" (I'll have a post on this soon).
Yet innovation always has resided on Nintendo's side. They keep the industry
moving forward even if they don't dominate it like they did in the 1980's.
Nintendo has never been out of the fight. And over the past 10 years they've
been fortifying a loyal customer base that will give them bedrock they need
when they recapture their 3rd party power.
The Famicom was the name of the first system, guys. This was the same
company that censored the blood out of Mortal Kombat I on the SNES,
remember? They will ALWAYS keep the young market which is VERY smart. Babies
are being born everyday.
To think that the concerned parent market is a trifle is just foolish
thinking. Also over the years they've also become the most economical gaming
system. Double whammy. Which system will a concerned parent in this
Bushconomy buy more readily?
•Sony & Dead or Alive: the Bouncing Chronicles/Grand Theft Auto: Jacker's
Revenge for $350?
•X-Box 360 & Halo: Grunts for Heaven/Half-Life: DIE!!! for $400
•Nintendo & Super Mario: Where's My Princess?/Animal Crossing: Look Both
Ways for $200
Don't think I have to answer that do I?
Sure you have to think of all markets/consumers but Nintendo has fortified
the family position better than any company. The only reason they've lost
market dominance is purely volume issues. Those franchises that filled in
the gaps between Nintendo 1st party/2nd party releases largely have jumped
ship to the other two systems. Their 3rd party power isn't what it used to
be. That's all. And that's not a permanent condition. All it takes is one
thing to reverse that.
Anyone who thinks that Nintendo doesn't have a dog in this fight must have
only come along as a game player during the last 5 or 10 years.
I suggest to those individuals who think that way that Nintendo is the oak
that will see many comers & goers but will still be that tree standing when
it's all said & done.
They're not an electronics company. They're not a computer company. They're
a gaming company. Sega was a gaming company. And it is BECAUSE of that why
you will NEVER have to worry about a day that games aren't associated with
that iconic Japanese name any time soon.
Call it a day for Nintendo when they get rid of the likes of Shigeru &
company.
Until that happens enough of the Premature Nintendo Eulogies.
Any thoughts on my post, readers?
John Lucas