"Pro" Gaming Computer

Methos777

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Hi !
I'm thinking of updating my setup, so I've been searching all I could for advices, benchmarks and so on. But there are so many informations out there that after a few days searching, I decided to come here :) So many people says so many diferent things....that you have to come down to what is most said.
I almost ONLY play games.

Here is my actual setup:
Cooler Master ATCS 840
Corsair HX - 750W
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD6
Intel® X25-M 80 Go "PostVille"
Intel® Core™ i7 860 OC @ 4.0Ghz (190*21)
Noctua NH-U12P SE2
Asus GeForce GTX 670 DCU II - 2 Go (GTX670-DC2-2GD5)
G.Skill Kit Extreme3 2 x 4 Go PC12800 Ripjaws X CAS9


IIYAMA 27" ProLite B2776HDS-B1
Acer 23.6" GD245HQB (120Hz)

I feel my PC performance isn't where it should be / doesn't have enough fps / can't max settings on many last games (like BF3, PS2, GW2). I want smooth gaming at MAX ultra settings. For exemple in PS2 i strugggle at 40 fps top. Sometimes it drops to 20 fps or below. Same for Guild Wars 2. I can't play in those conditions :/

My budget is around 1000$ (800€).

Solutions I've though of so far:

- Upgrading cpu + mobo
First I've been looking into the benefits that could bring an i7 3770K + z77 sabertooth compared to my oced i7 860. I ended up on this topic : http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2257414
It shows that upgrading to 3770K would improve performance by around 5 to 15% maximum (it says up to 20% but my cpu has greater oc so I should get around 15% or less). For 510€ (665$) it feels a bit expensive.

- SLI ?:
Maybe the way to go is adding another GTX 670 (I will later anyway when price drop). But with my monitors I don't go over 1080p, and I read that SLI is only useful for higher resolution (1080p+). Should I get a 1080p+ monitor ? Or maybe SLI would just be usefull to get to 120 fps so I can use my 120hz Monitor fully ?

- SSD :
From user feedback, upgrading their SSD from 1st gen Intel® X25-M 80 to anything new didn't really improve performance, except in benchmarks....I don't care about benchs.

- Overclocking more:
Then I thought maybe I can overclock my i7 860 further more with a better cooling (the noctua NH-U12P SE2 is still one of the best cooler from the benchs I've read). So I looked to maybe buy a H100i or NH-D14, then maybe I could gain 10° to 15° and OC it further. (Actual temps are 43 idle, 65-70 under load) BUT a problem arised, I'm already very close to max VTT/QPI (1.3) and VCORE (1.375). So even with better cooling i can't oc it more and those 200 or 400 of more Mhz won't add a lot of Performance maybe 5%? I think it's not worth it.

- More Ram :
Definitely won't help improving performance, 8GB is more than enough from what I read everywhere.

I'm also not against buying a 3rd monitor if I can find the best one for gaming, but I think mines are good atm.

TL;DR
I only use my pc for games.
I want to upgrade my pc to a setup where I can have max settings, 120+ fps if possible (so I can use my 120Hz fully).
I don't want to spend hundreds dollars for 5% improvements.
I'm open to new cpu mobo, SLI solutions, or anything.

Thanks for reading and helping.
 
Games do not make use of Hyper Threading so there is no real reason to buy an i7-3770k is playing games is the primary purpose. See following review for benchmarks of the Core i5-3570k (no HT) and Core i7-3770k (HT) amongst other CPUs.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-3770k-i5-3570k_6.html#sect0


I will admit that in StarCraft 2 the i7-3770k does perform better than the i5-3570k by 3.7% or 3FPS. Generally speaking though, there is always a small margin of error of about 2% - 3% because of background processes that may be occurring which you have no control over.
 

Methos777

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Thanks for the link.

So maybe I could go Core i5-3570k + z77 mobo + another GTX670 for SLI....It's tempting for around 860€.
However i'm not sure SLI is worth it at my resolution :/ Maybe just to get 120 fps ie 120 Hz on my 120 Hz monitor....

Any other opinion/advice is welcome. Thanks.
 

Methos777

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I'm still in the doubt on what should i get for my upgrade. It's true that i5 = i7 for gaming, but for 90$ (70€) is it worth passing on i7 ? Maybe some games will start beingg optimized with HT....
Also SLI seems the real thing for me even if I'm not 1080p+, from benchs it seems I can double my fps with sli gtx 670, it would be nice to get to 120Hz. Or Maybe I could buy a high res monitor.

Also about z77 motherboard, I'm torn between Asus sabertooth and Gigabyté u5h (no ASrock please, my pc seller doesnt have it).

Every opinion is welcome.
 

Methos777

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I didn't think so too as I said in my original topic, but if I want high FPS in game (120+), I need SLI, and If I want SLI GTX670 I can't run it with my i7 860, or I will definitely be bottlenecked (with 1xgtx670 it's ok though I guess).
 


HT has been around since 2002. Since then there has only been one game that I heard of which actually implemented HT. If was some sci-fi game that bombed. It was released in either 2010 or 2011.
 

Methos777

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I'm still investigating what is best upgrade, getting a bit crazy about it, but it's a lot of money.

So far investigation conclusions:
SLI: Will improve my fps by doubling it (100% improvement overall)
I already got 1x GTX 670.
Cost to upgrade : 420€ (549$)

Upgrade to i5 3570k: I will gain around 10 fps (5-10% improvement overall)
Cost to upgrade : 220€ mobo (z77 sabertooth) + 230€ cpu (i5 3570k) = 550€ (720$)

I could get both. But the more I look at it, the more it seems cpu+mobo isn't worth upgrading, except maybe because my Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD6 has some limitations while running SLI like reducing SATA and USB speed, i need to investigate if it is that bad or not.
If I can keep my i7 860, maybe I can spend the money elsewhere, like a high res monitor, or a bigger/newer SSD (80Gb is kinda short).

As always every advice is welcome :)