Processor or Video upgrade to improve my fps

[twurkson]

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Compaq Presario 061
System Model: RE473AA-ABA SR2020NX NA680
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 941MB used, 5104MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11


Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8600 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_050E10DE&REV_A1
Display Memory: 1266 MB
Dedicated Memory: 499 MB
Shared Memory: 767 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: Hanns.G HW191
Monitor Id: HSD8991
Native Mode: 1440 x 900(p) (59.887Hz)
Output Type: DVI

 

[jasonpwns]

Looking at your video card it seems to suck a good amount of your memory up, so Id assume getting a new video card would be better. The change from integrated to non-integrated will take less pressure on your CPU and memory usage. So in the long run upgrading the card first will benefit you. With a 1.8hz 939 sempron and an 8600GT (non integrated) I was able to run fallout 3 on medium with 25-45 fps. 1280x1024 res I believe.

 

[twurkson]

i play wow so im looking to boost the fps what would be a good upgrade

 

[jasonpwns]

Most likely graphics again. It takes less off your memory and processor, therefore you have more RAM for WoW, better graphics and your processor takes less of a load.

 

[mjsharma]

Looking at your video card it seems to suck a good amount of your memory up, so Id assume getting a new video card would be better. The change from integrated to non-integrated will take less pressure on your CPU and memory usage. So in the long run upgrading the card first will benefit you. With a 1.8hz 939 sempron and an 8600GT (non integrated) I was able to run fallout 3 on medium with 25-45 fps. 1280x1024 res I believe.

wat do u mean by integrated to non integrated?

 

[jasonpwns]

wat do u mean by integrated to non integrated?

I was assuming his graphics was integrated, and if it isn't then it is sucking off his memory I believe.


Shared Memory: 767 MB

My bad if it isn't integrated. Graphics still may be better depending.

 

[mjsharma]

btw i dnt know much abt amd cpus....may b someone else ll help u wid it...
but 8600gt isnt that much powerful card...may b if u upgrade ur cpu may hold u back...(not sure) but i ll say upgrade ur grphx card if u seriously wanna do some gamin stuffs...
for low to medium settings 8600gt ll do above that it ll struggle...

 

[mjsharma]

I was assuming his graphics was integrated, and if it isn't then it is sucking off his memory I believe.


Shared Memory: 767 MB

My bad if it isn't integrated. Graphics still may be better depending.

u were tlkin abt integrated ramdac rite?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAMDAC
thats ramdac
and yeah his gpu isnt integrated

 

[jasonpwns]

btw i dnt know much abt amd cpus....may b someone else ll help u wid it...
but 8600gt isnt that much powerful card...may b if u upgrade ur cpu may hold u back...(not sure) but i ll say upgrade ur grphx card if u seriously wanna do some gamin stuffs...
for low to medium settings 8600gt ll do above that it ll struggle...

Dung, I consider 40-45 fps playable with fallout 3 on high settings with a 2.2GHZ Amd Dual core socket 939 and an 8600GT 512mb.

Anyways onto the problem. It would be nice if you could help us out by giving more info. Such as your current fps, etc. Also turning off shared memory may help.

 

[mjsharma]

if u dont face much prob wid fps wait for sometime save some more money and upgrade both cpu nd gpu..

 

[mjsharma]

i just generalized it, i also had 8600gt and have played fallout 3 in high settings... turn on aa nd see... u ll throw that card away...

 

[jasonpwns]

I had AA on like 4. I am upgrading to a 9800gt soon anyways

 

[4745454b]

That single core 3500+ is going to start holding you back more and more. 1440x900 isn't that big, so you'll be ok with the 9800GT. But even that card will start to bottlenecked some. You got to move up to a dual core at some point.

 

[jasonpwns]

OK, since you do have a somewhat decent card for WoW, I suggest you get a new processor. I have noticed in my past WoW experience that it relies more on processing then video due to having to load tons of people in one map. This is the best processor I could find that your motherboard actually supports. http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-3800-2GHz-CPU-ADO3800IAA5CU-Windsor-/170501677837?cmd=ViewItem&pt=CPUs&hash=item27b2b1230d#ht_1434wt_912 I suggest instead of getting a processor you get a new motherboard instead.

 

[twurkson]

k More leaning to the card i figured it would be the processor since it was single core . someone also said turn off shared memory how do i do so >??

 

[jasonpwns]

Shared memory I am assuming would be in your bios. I suggest you buy a new motherboard though, your motherboard isn't the best and it would be an investment in the future just to get rid of it now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394

Here, this one supports your current processor and you can upgrade to even a quad core in the future if you want to. The price isn't half bad either.

 

[4745454b]

That doesn't support his current CPU or memory if he has a 3500+ on Socket 939. He'd either have to know what he bought, or run CPUz to find out.

 

[jasonpwns]

The hp/compaq website says Socket AM2 with DDR2 Memory.

 

[twurkson]

the 3500 + is am2 im almost positive because i bought a used athlon 64 x 2 and it was damaged never got another

 

[twurkson]

with the spec i have now in raid im only at 12 FPS and thats with NO graphic i refuse to pay to play anymore if im only enjoying typing lol =) just wanna get this old machine running better till i have enough to get a new board card and cpu

 

[jasonpwns]

OK, then I suggest you buy that motherboard. Then you can extend your upgrading capabilities in the future, thus you will see a bigger increase in FPS then if you upgraded your processor or video card on this current motherboard.

 

[twurkson]

so if i get this mother board with the hardware i have already would i bump my fps up a tad or would i just have the foundation to build a better comp from ?

 

[twurkson]

or even a mother board cpu combo that will last awile and is pretty cheap so of coarce im looking for amd since i dont have a few extra hundred to spend on bard and processor

 

[4745454b]

My wife is using my old S939 3500+, so thats why I mentioned it.

You wont' see an increase just by using the board. It will allow you to put faster parts in later. If you have an AM2 setup now, you might want to just buy a new CPU ad GPU. Do you live in the US and can you buy from newegg? A cheap AM2 dual core and a faster video card can be yours for ~$100 I'm sure.

 

[twurkson]

yeah i live in US i think im just gonna go with a new board combo and deal with what i have for now but This is ware im 100 % computer idiot i know *** about mother boards as ive never built from mother board up