Processor Temps (i7 4790k)

[Tokthree]

Hello,

Yesterday I finally made the jump from an i5 4690k to an i7 4790k. This is the most powerful processor I've ever had and, perhaps quite naturally, I find some of these temperatures a little worrying.

I'm cooling it with a Hyper 212 EVO (I had bought a H110i GTX but I suspect that the pump was DOA as my idle with it was about 50 degrees, opening a browser would shoot it to 65 and trying to play a game would send it to the 90s easy) and I'm getting idles of about 38-42 degrees, around 50-60 degrees while gaming, 76 degrees max while rendering a video in Adobe Premiere, 79~ max in Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool and a max of 86 degrees in Prime95 Small FFT's

At all of these points the CPU was boosted to it's maximum of 4.4Ghz, my case was open and I don't have my exhaust fans installed properly at the moment. Are these temps acceptable? Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Edit: I should mention that my processor's VID is 1.302v, I read just now that this isn't normal. Is that correct? I haven't done any overclocking and the only change I made in my BIOS after reverting it to the optimised defaults was enabling my memory's XMP profile

 

[StarChief]

Welp, first I want to congratulate you on an absolutely unnecessary upgrade.

Those temps, while very high, are acceptable. As long as they don't exceed 90c you're technically under the max temp for that chip. Still I think you need proper air flow in the case. Maybe run the chip at stock speed until you get proper cooling.

 

[zAustin]

It's a little on the warm side for an air cooler, but it's completely within thermal limits. 90-100C+ is where you should be highly concerned. I personally would not want to run a processor very frequently above 80C. 86C in Prime95 is fine because it's putting 100% stress on all cores which is not typically gonna happen during use, during a game or other intensive task, 75C is where I don't like to go any higher.

Edit: By the way...the 4690k to a 4790k is completely fine, double the cores, believe a few more MB of cache, just depends on what you need it for whether or not it was justifiable.

 

[bill001g]

I just built a machine with the same cpu and cooler. Tried the factory cooler and had massive issue with overheating, lucky I was testing and could stop it but it would blast above 80 within second. As I am sure you have found there is a lot of discussion on overheating on this cpu.

The EVO cooler is night and day difference. On the intel stress tests it stays about 64 run at 100% load. The benchmark get spikes to about 72 but most times that runs in the low 60 range also. Idle is in the low 30 and I am running in a fairly high temp room of 25c. I have not really bother to over clock it since so far nothing other than the benchmarks even comes close.

I did add a second fan to the back of the cooler just because I had a extra high pressure fan laying around. It dropped it degree or two not sure if it would be worth it if you had to buy a extra fan.

 

[StarChief]

It's a little on the warm side for an air cooler, but it's completely within thermal limits. 90-100C+ is where you should be highly concerned. I personally would not want to run a processor very frequently above 80C. 86C in Prime95 is fine because it's putting 100% stress on all cores which is not typically gonna happen during use, during a game or other intensive task, 75C is where I don't like to go any higher.

Edit: By the way...the 4690k to a 4790k is completely fine, double the cores, believe a few more MB of cache, just depends on what you need it for whether or not it was justifiable.

It's just not worth the price, they are both quad cores and perform more or less the same in gaming.

 

[Tokthree]

I just put all my fans back in and closed the case up. Ran Intel Diagnostic Tool and got a max temperature of 74 degrees with an average of 72. I'll take that and be happy with it.

 

[Tokthree]

It's a little on the warm side for an air cooler, but it's completely within thermal limits. 90-100C+ is where you should be highly concerned. I personally would not want to run a processor very frequently above 80C. 86C in Prime95 is fine because it's putting 100% stress on all cores which is not typically gonna happen during use, during a game or other intensive task, 75C is where I don't like to go any higher.

Edit: By the way...the 4690k to a 4790k is completely fine, double the cores, believe a few more MB of cache, just depends on what you need it for whether or not it was justifiable.

It's just not worth the price, they are both quad cores and perform more or less the same in gaming.

I didn't buy it for gaming, I bought it for streaming, recording and rendering. I spent months trying to tweak the settings I was using with my i5, it just wasn't going to happen with that processor.

 

[zAustin]

It's a little on the warm side for an air cooler, but it's completely within thermal limits. 90-100C+ is where you should be highly concerned. I personally would not want to run a processor very frequently above 80C. 86C in Prime95 is fine because it's putting 100% stress on all cores which is not typically gonna happen during use, during a game or other intensive task, 75C is where I don't like to go any higher.

Edit: By the way...the 4690k to a 4790k is completely fine, double the cores, believe a few more MB of cache, just depends on what you need it for whether or not it was justifiable.

It's just not worth the price, they are both quad cores and perform more or less the same in gaming.

A quad-core i5 and a quad-core i7 are 2 totally different lines of processors. i7's have hyper-threading - 1 virtual core for every physical core (so 8 cores in his case) and i5's are just simply quad-cores without hyper-threading, I'd hope you would know that with a "CPU's" tag next to your name. I also mentioned "depending on the reason why you would need an i7 upgrading from an i5 determines whether or not that upgrade was justifiable". More and more games are taking advantage of more than 4 cores, so if gaming was his reason and he had the money to pay for it - more power to him, pun intended. And except for 2011v3 builds, that's the best modern processor you could go with. I have an i5-3570k and I wish I would have spent the extra $100 and gotten an i7 or waited another month or 2 before 1155 socket CPU's went out the window and 1150 and Z87/97 went more mainstream.

 

[zAustin]

It's a little on the warm side for an air cooler, but it's completely within thermal limits. 90-100C+ is where you should be highly concerned. I personally would not want to run a processor very frequently above 80C. 86C in Prime95 is fine because it's putting 100% stress on all cores which is not typically gonna happen during use, during a game or other intensive task, 75C is where I don't like to go any higher.

Edit: By the way...the 4690k to a 4790k is completely fine, double the cores, believe a few more MB of cache, just depends on what you need it for whether or not it was justifiable.

It's just not worth the price, they are both quad cores and perform more or less the same in gaming.

I didn't buy it for gaming, I bought it for streaming, recording and rendering. I spent months trying to tweak the settings I was using with my i5, it just wasn't going to happen with that processor.

Perfectly logical reason to upgrade to an i7.

 

[StarChief]

It's a little on the warm side for an air cooler, but it's completely within thermal limits. 90-100C+ is where you should be highly concerned. I personally would not want to run a processor very frequently above 80C. 86C in Prime95 is fine because it's putting 100% stress on all cores which is not typically gonna happen during use, during a game or other intensive task, 75C is where I don't like to go any higher.

Edit: By the way...the 4690k to a 4790k is completely fine, double the cores, believe a few more MB of cache, just depends on what you need it for whether or not it was justifiable.

It's just not worth the price, they are both quad cores and perform more or less the same in gaming.

A quad-core i5 and a quad-core i7 are 2 totally different lines of processors. i7's have hyper-threading - 1 virtual core for every physical core (so 8 cores in his case) and i5's are just simply quad-cores without hyper-threading, I'd hope you would know that with a "CPU's" tag next to your name. I also mentioned "depending on the reason why you would need an i7 upgrading from an i5 determines whether or not that upgrade was justifiable". More and more games are taking advantage of more than 4 cores, so if gaming was his reason and he had the money to pay for it - more power to him, pun intended. And except for 2011v3 builds, that's the best modern processor you could go with. I have an i5-3570k and I wish I would have spent the extra $100 and gotten an i7 or waited another month or 2 before 1155 socket CPU's went out the window and 1150 and Z87/97 went more mainstream.

Yes I know how hyperthreading works, thank you. There are exactly 0 games that I am aware of that have a significant boost in performance from running on a hyper threaded core I7. By your logic the FX 8xxxx series are the best gaming CPUs out there, however as you may know that is far from the case.

For streaming and rendering as OP wants to do, yeah that's a good upgrade. But if for your average joe who just wants to play games, going from an I5 to an I7 is a waste of money.

 

[zAustin]

It's a little on the warm side for an air cooler, but it's completely within thermal limits. 90-100C+ is where you should be highly concerned. I personally would not want to run a processor very frequently above 80C. 86C in Prime95 is fine because it's putting 100% stress on all cores which is not typically gonna happen during use, during a game or other intensive task, 75C is where I don't like to go any higher.

Edit: By the way...the 4690k to a 4790k is completely fine, double the cores, believe a few more MB of cache, just depends on what you need it for whether or not it was justifiable.

It's just not worth the price, they are both quad cores and perform more or less the same in gaming.

A quad-core i5 and a quad-core i7 are 2 totally different lines of processors. i7's have hyper-threading - 1 virtual core for every physical core (so 8 cores in his case) and i5's are just simply quad-cores without hyper-threading, I'd hope you would know that with a "CPU's" tag next to your name. I also mentioned "depending on the reason why you would need an i7 upgrading from an i5 determines whether or not that upgrade was justifiable". More and more games are taking advantage of more than 4 cores, so if gaming was his reason and he had the money to pay for it - more power to him, pun intended. And except for 2011v3 builds, that's the best modern processor you could go with. I have an i5-3570k and I wish I would have spent the extra $100 and gotten an i7 or waited another month or 2 before 1155 socket CPU's went out the window and 1150 and Z87/97 went more mainstream.

Yes I know how hyperthreading works, thank you. There are exactly 0 games that I am aware of that have a significant boost in performance from running on a hyper threaded core I7. By your logic the FX 8xxxx series are the best gaming CPUs out there, however as you may know that is far from the case.

For streaming and rendering as OP wants to do, yeah that's a good upgrade. But if for your average joe who just wants to play games, going from an I5 to an I7 is a waste of money.

I partially agree with you. It also depends on what kind of results you're looking to get. As I said, more and more games are taking advantage of more than 4 cores, Battlefield 4 being a personal favorite of mine that does. I'm not saying the additional 4 cores is going to constitute +40FPS or be equivalent to another GPU in SLI/Crossfire, but a +5-15FPS or a little more depending on the rest of the system specs, and the game itself is pretty realistic. Which that's where I agree with you, if you just want the extra 5-15FPS in video games, whereas you aren't doing multimedia and you're on a tight budget, I'd say stick with the i5. But if you do multimedia applications or you just simply want the extra 5-15FPS, and you've got money to blow, what's stopping you?