Prodigy Build for £600

ForrestDump

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This is my first time building so I need a new OS, not a monitor planning on use a 19' hdtv, not gonna overclock, I also live in Scotland(Glasgow) so microcenter and newegg is out of the question and since my room doesn't have a router in it so a USB or pci wireless thingy (sorry cant remember the term) is needed thank you.

Down to business the reason I plan on purchasing is that the PS4 and Xbox1 is terrible I plan to make the the 'jump'.

My favourite case is the prodigy so any thing involving that is helpful. Also I would like I5 or AMD equivelent (I don't know if AMD supports mini itx so don't hate.

Any help is appreciated and thank you.
 
This is the best you can build for 600 pounds, considering that you want a Mini-ITX and a PC with an OS.
For the price the build could have had been a beast if Mini-ITX was not a requirement, i could have gone for a much better AMD build but since AMD does not support Mini-ITX so i had to stick with Intel, it is not a bad build though, just it falls a little short on graphics as compared to the 7950 that the AMD build would have got.
Without any more wait, here is the built. I am sorry i got 50 pounds above the budget but that was required for getting a better graphics card.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£80.69 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£36.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.19 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card (£131.59 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case (£64.34 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.86 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£64.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £627.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-09 18:04 BST+0100)

CPU : The Intel i5 4570 is the best you can get for the price. Offers similar performance to the best i5 at stock clock speeds, but remember that you cannot overclock it. If you want to overclock then you need to increase the budget quite a lot.

GPU : The GPU is a beast for that price, the 7870 is a good performer at 1080p a choice you won't regret for the extra 50 pounds spent.

If you think that the answer helped, then don't forrget to select it as the best answer. It would be highly appreciated by me.
 
Here's a system with built-in WiFi/Bluetooth and faster RAM. The CPU is marginally slower, while the graphics card is noticeably slower (the GTX 650 Ti Boost is quite a bit faster than the GTX 650 Ti, even though they're very similarly named).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£146.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87I Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£104.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£41.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.19 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card (£93.72 @ Ebuyer)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case (£62.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£37.97 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.15 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£64.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £608.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-09 18:45 BST+0100)
 


No.. You are getting some things wrong. You are cheaping out on CPU and going for a better Motherboard. But that is useless.

The motherboard you selected is the Z87 motherboard, but for non overclocking CPU that motherboard is just useless.

And the CPU is not that powerful when compared to the 4570 which i selected, why get a inferior CPU for the same budget.

And the final thing is.. The PSU : Yeah, it is right that the PSU can handle this build without problems, but you do not want to get a low wattage PSU as it hinders future upgradability a lot. It is better to always have extra wattage available so that you can upgrade your parts easily, and hence getting atleast a 550-600W PSU is kinda essential. And when the PSU is at it's full load and it does not have extra wattage, it tends to work too hard and hence can be noisy and it can decrease the life of the PSU even though that is very rare. But why take risks for just saving like 12 pounds or so..

 

If anyone's getting some things wrong, it's you. The OP said he needed Wi-Fi to connect to the internet, and your build does not include Wi-Fi support. The MSI Z87I has built-in WiFi, so it's worth the extra money just on that feature alone. But in addition, with the Z87 chipset you can overclock the Core i5-4430 by 400 MHz, making it faster than the Core i5-4570 in your build.

Your build also has slow RAM that will hamper performance while costing nearly the same.

A good 450W PSU is sufficient for anything you could upgrade to in a mITX system. The form factor in itself puts strict limits on what you can fit, so the 450W PSU does not limit upgradeability in that situation.
 

Sure it does. TDP is how much thermal power the cooling system should be designed to handle, and that's because it's roughly how much electrical power the device will consume under maximum load.
 


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=does+tdp+equal+load+power

Wikipedia: "The TDP is typically not the most power the chip could ever draw..."
Overclockers Forums:

"You are correct in saying that actual heat output is not equal to the power consumption of the CPU. That would be an entirely useless CPU!!![...]It does not mean that if your TDP=100W, then your CPU is using 100W; only that for whatever amount of power the CPU IS using, it requires the dissipation of 100W in order to function properly at that performance level."

etc.
 

Actually they are completely identical. Conservation of energy, you know. 100W of electric power, 100W of heat dissipation (unless some of the energy gets stored or dissipated in some other way, but that's not relevant here).

Also, you manipulated that Wikipedia quote. Here's the full version:

The TDP is typically not the most power the chip could ever draw, such as by a power virus, but rather the maximum power that it would draw when running "real applications"

So it corresponds to the maximum realistic power draw, with a modest margin for error.
 

So where does that extra energy go? You seem to be saying basic laws of nature don't apply to Haswell.
 

They're measuring the power consumption of the entire system at the wall. So that means all the power consumed by the CPU, the graphics card, the memory, motherboard, hard drive, fans etc. plus the power that is lost in the power supply as it converts from AC to DC (and different voltages).
 
If anyone's getting some things wrong, it's you. The OP said he needed Wi-Fi to connect to the internet, and your build does not include Wi-Fi support. The MSI Z87I has built-in WiFi, so it's worth the extra money just on that feature alone. But in addition, with the Z87 chipset you can overclock the Core i5-4430 by 400 MHz, making it faster than the Core i5-4570 in your build.

Your build also has slow RAM that will hamper performance while costing nearly the same.

A good 450W PSU is sufficient for anything you could upgrade to in a mITX system. The form factor in itself puts strict limits on what you can fit, so the 450W PSU does not limit upgradeability in that situation.

In that case get a Wifi Card for about 10-15 dollars. No need to change the CPU and motherboard for just getting the Wifi. You can just put in a wifi card without changing the CPU or Motheboard without any problem. So literally just shup up.

And for the PSU : You are idiot, you really are, ask anyone and no one would ever go for a 450W for a high end system, so just shup up again. You have no idea about real world usage.

I may sound rude but the things you are saying is completely unacceptable. You are doing things which complete idiots do. I do not care if i get banned for this, but this post by you just pissed me off completely. Are you mad?

Recommend something to someone only if you are sure about it, do not guess things in air. I wonder where that "Graphics Card Authority" badge came from? Because you are recommending s**t .
 

There is nowhere to put a WiFi card in a mITX build, since there is only a single PCIe slot. So he'd have to get a USB WiFi adapter instead, and they're not nearly as good.

As for the rest - please chill out and accept the fact that you can be wrong.
 


A USB wifi adapter works fine with me, so i would recommend that, no problem in that.