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Projectile
Combat (Common)
Celerity
[cel] Strike: 1R damage or make a ranged weapon strike. This strike cannot be dodged.
[CEL] As above, with an additional strike.

Does that mean that if weapon inflicts aggravated damage, this stike does it also?

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:46:02 +0100, sinaath <sinaath@killthis.gmail.com>
wrote:

> Projectile
> Combat (Common)
> Celerity
> [cel] Strike: 1R damage or make a ranged weapon strike. This strike
> cannot be dodged.
> [CEL] As above, with an additional strike.
>
> Does that mean that if weapon inflicts aggravated damage, this stike
> does it also?

You're making a ranged weapon strike with all restrictions and
characteristics relevant to that particular ranged weapon strike.

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> Does that mean that if weapon inflicts aggravated damage, this stike
does it also?



yes...

 

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cardtext: 'make a ranged weapon strike'

this is (I assume) meant to be understood as: 'make a strike with a
ranged weapon'.

I can just about see how this can be misunderstood as: make strike with
a weapon and that strike will be ranged', though I thought it was
fairly obvious what it does.

another thought:
from 6.4.2. Determine Range
'If a minion uses the maneuver from a strike card or a weapon, he is
effectively choosing his strike as well.'

I assume using a maneuver from a weapon would prevent this strike from
being played as the first strike that round.

 

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LSJ wrote:
> Both "ranged" and "weapon" modify "strike".
> Make a ranged strike that is a weapon strike.

but the weapon has to be able to do ranged damage, right?
otherwise I am misunderstanding this horribly...

(and regarding using the weapons maneuver):

ok, makes sense since IIRC the rules say that you must strike with the
weapon you used for the maneuver, which you would still be doing if you
played this card.

 

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<demon@hell.is> wrote in message
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> cardtext: 'make a ranged weapon strike'
>
> this is (I assume) meant to be understood as: 'make a strike with a
> ranged weapon'.

"Ranged weapon" isn't quite right.

Both "ranged" and "weapon" modify "strike".
Make a ranged strike that is a weapon strike.

> I can just about see how this can be misunderstood as: make strike with
> a weapon and that strike will be ranged', though I thought it was
> fairly obvious what it does.
>
> another thought:
> from 6.4.2. Determine Range
> 'If a minion uses the maneuver from a strike card or a weapon, he is
> effectively choosing his strike as well.'
>
> I assume using a maneuver from a weapon would prevent this strike from
> being played as the first strike that round.

No.

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<demon@hell.is> wrote in message
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> LSJ wrote:
> > Both "ranged" and "weapon" modify "strike".
> > Make a ranged strike that is a weapon strike.
>
> but the weapon has to be able to do ranged damage, right?

Yes. The weapon strike has to be a ranged strike.
And the ranged strike has to be a weapon strike.

> otherwise I am misunderstanding this horribly...
>
> (and regarding using the weapons maneuver):
>
> ok, makes sense since IIRC the rules say that you must strike with the
> weapon you used for the maneuver, which you would still be doing if you
> played this card.



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> > Projectile
> > Combat (Common)
> > Celerity
> > [cel] Strike: 1R damage or make a ranged weapon strike. This strike
> > cannot be dodged.
> > [CEL] As above, with an additional strike.
> >
> > Does that mean that if weapon inflicts aggravated damage, this stike
> > does it also?
>
> You're making a ranged weapon strike with all restrictions and
> characteristics relevant to that particular ranged weapon strike.

ahhh... just as i thought.. rowan ring is a weapon, isn't it? *evilly grins*

sinaath

 

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"sinaath" <sinaath@killthis.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Projectile
> > Combat (Common)
> > Celerity
> > [cel] Strike: 1R damage or make a ranged weapon strike. This strike
> > cannot be dodged.
> > [CEL] As above, with an additional strike.
> >
> > Does that mean that if weapon inflicts aggravated damage, this stike
> > does it also?
>
> You're making a ranged weapon strike with all restrictions and
> characteristics relevant to that particular ranged weapon strike.

ahhh... just as i thought.. rowan ring is a weapon, isn't it? *evilly grins*

But not a 'ranged' weapon. Ivory Bow will work, Talbots Chainsaw won't.

Sam

 

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> cardtext: 'make a ranged weapon strike'
>
> this is (I assume) meant to be understood as: 'make a strike with a
> ranged weapon'.
>
> I can just about see how this can be misunderstood as: make strike with
> a weapon and that strike will be ranged', though I thought it was
> fairly obvious what it does.

Hmm now I'm confused.. I thought it's something simillar to earthshock
so you can use close-range weapons at long range. But that would be bad.
This wording isn't clear to me, though. It's too close to "strength ranged damage".

sinaath

 

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"sinaath" <sinaath@killthis.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hmm now I'm confused.. I thought it's something simillar to earthshock
> so you can use close-range weapons at long range. But that would be bad.
> This wording isn't clear to me, though. It's too close to "strength
ranged damage".

One instructs you to make a strike. That strike must be of the type
indicated ("ranged weapon strike").

The other describes the effect of a strike: it inflicts damage
of a certain amount and type ("strength ranged damage").

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sinaath wrote:

> Hmm now I'm confused.. I thought it's something simillar to earthshock
> so you can use close-range weapons at long range. But that would be bad.
> This wording isn't clear to me, though. It's too close to "strength ranged
> damage".

No, it is "make a strike with a ranged weapon that can't be dodged and if
you have CEL, you also get an additional strike". So if you have an Ivory
Bow or a Magnum, you can use projectile to use that weapon to make a strike
that can't be dodged, and if you have CEL, you also get an additional
strike. If you have a Sengir Dagger or a Talbot's Chainsaw, you can use the
Projectile to do 1R damage and maybe get an additional strike, as SD or TC
don't make ranged strikes.


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