Protective sprays, inks and paper

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My first try and findings with spray protective coating from Krylon
(glossy) . I took one photo and printed it twice on redriver ultra
gloss paper.

One print with Genuine Canon ink and one print with Formula labs
refill inks in fresh unused blank cartridges.

What I found interesting was the print with canon ink developed a
contrast contrast cast which dramatically softened up the photo. (not
good at all)

The formula labs print got a bit richer and enhanced tthe appearance
and shine. (Very desirable)

Anyone else with similar findings?

 

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"beezer" <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote in message
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> My first try and findings with spray protective coating from Krylon
> (glossy) . I took one photo and printed it twice on redriver ultra
> gloss paper.
>
> One print with Genuine Canon ink and one print with Formula labs
> refill inks in fresh unused blank cartridges.
>
> What I found interesting was the print with canon ink developed a
> contrast contrast cast which dramatically softened up the photo. (not
> good at all)
>
> The formula labs print got a bit richer and enhanced tthe appearance
> and shine. (Very desirable)
>
> Anyone else with similar findings?

Yes some combinations of ink/paper/spray work better than others. You have
to experiment and stick with what works. It's important to allow the prints
to dry overnight before spraying.

I've recently been making some outdoor signs - I print onto self adhesive
white film then fix the print to a rigid plastic sheet - then spray with a
clear acrylic. Some makes of acrylic have a very very slight yellow tint so
it's worth shopping around. Sometimes this tint seems to vanish when the
acrylic dries - or at least that's the impression I get.

 

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On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:26:26 GMT, "CWatters"
<colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:

>
>Yes some combinations of ink/paper/spray work better than others. You have
>to experiment and stick with what works. It's important to allow the prints
>to dry overnight before spraying.
>
>I've recently been making some outdoor signs - I print onto self adhesive
>white film then fix the print to a rigid plastic sheet - then spray with a
>clear acrylic. Some makes of acrylic have a very very slight yellow tint so
>it's worth shopping around. Sometimes this tint seems to vanish when the
>acrylic dries - or at least that's the impression I get.


Thanks for the reply. Interesting concept..

I did find out the trouble. The print with the canon ink did not
saturate the paper as much as the second print. So after the coating
was sprayed on it, the ink seemed to soak into the paper more and make
it appear under saturated.

The prints were dried for several days prior to spraying. I do like
the Idea of your sign. Where do you buy the white film at?

 

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On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:26:26 GMT, "CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be>
wrote:

>
>"beezer" <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote in message
>news:dujaa0t6e1dlstiv8r8n682h345mt21svj@4ax.com...
>> My first try and findings with spray protective coating from Krylon
>> (glossy) . I took one photo and printed it twice on redriver ultra
>> gloss paper.
>>
>> One print with Genuine Canon ink and one print with Formula labs
>> refill inks in fresh unused blank cartridges.
>>
>> What I found interesting was the print with canon ink developed a
>> contrast contrast cast which dramatically softened up the photo. (not
>> good at all)
>>
>> The formula labs print got a bit richer and enhanced tthe appearance
>> and shine. (Very desirable)
>>
>> Anyone else with similar findings?
>
>Yes some combinations of ink/paper/spray work better than others. You have
>to experiment and stick with what works. It's important to allow the prints
>to dry overnight before spraying.
>
>I've recently been making some outdoor signs - I print onto self adhesive
>white film then fix the print to a rigid plastic sheet - then spray with a
>clear acrylic. Some makes of acrylic have a very very slight yellow tint so
>it's worth shopping around. Sometimes this tint seems to vanish when the
>acrylic dries - or at least that's the impression I get.
>
>
Please excuse me for butting in! How did the Formula Labs ink prints compare to
the Canon ink prints? I'm getting ready to give refilling cartridges a shot, for
my i960, but don't know where to start. Any advice would be appreciated.
John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

 

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On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:00:44 -0400, John H <jherring$$@$$cox**.net>
wrote:

>Please excuse me for butting in! How did the Formula Labs ink prints compare to
>the Canon ink prints? I'm getting ready to give refilling cartridges a shot, for
>my i960, but don't know where to start. Any advice would be appreciated.
>John H
>
>On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
>on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


They are an exact match. Ive done extensive testing as well as many
others. I never had a clog or any kind of trouble.

I would start by ordering some blank refill cartridges from
www.inkjetgoodies.com

and get your ink from
www.alotofthings.com

Some people will tell you that bci-6 and bci-3e inks are swapable
beside the photo inks but its not true...

stick with alotofthings.com for your ink. Joe really knows his stuff
and has only high quality formula labs ink. Hes a great guy and will
answer any technical questions you might have.

I have a I850 and a I960 that that I use the refills with. Not a
single problem and perfect prints.

Also, if you want excellent paper at a fraction of Canons paper, check
out www.redriverpaper.com Truely great stuff. The ultima pro and
satin are fantastic. The satin is my favorite. It has a very deep
rich shine. I perfer that over gloss for 8x10 portraits.

Redriver also has profiles for your printer for each paper they carry.
I think they pretty much nailed it as it comes out perfect with no
noticable casting and thats with the formula labs ink also.

hope this helps.

 

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On Sat, 15 May 2004 13:08:42 -0400, beezer <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote:

>On Sat, 15 May 2004 08:00:44 -0400, John H <jherring$$@$$cox**.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Please excuse me for butting in! How did the Formula Labs ink prints compare to
>>the Canon ink prints? I'm getting ready to give refilling cartridges a shot, for
>>my i960, but don't know where to start. Any advice would be appreciated.
>>John H
>>
>>On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
>>on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!
>
>
>They are an exact match. Ive done extensive testing as well as many
>others. I never had a clog or any kind of trouble.
>
>I would start by ordering some blank refill cartridges from
>www.inkjetgoodies.com
>
>and get your ink from
>www.alotofthings.com
>
>Some people will tell you that bci-6 and bci-3e inks are swapable
>beside the photo inks but its not true...
>
>stick with alotofthings.com for your ink. Joe really knows his stuff
>and has only high quality formula labs ink. Hes a great guy and will
>answer any technical questions you might have.
>
>I have a I850 and a I960 that that I use the refills with. Not a
>single problem and perfect prints.
>
>Also, if you want excellent paper at a fraction of Canons paper, check
>out www.redriverpaper.com Truely great stuff. The ultima pro and
>satin are fantastic. The satin is my favorite. It has a very deep
>rich shine. I perfer that over gloss for 8x10 portraits.
>
>Redriver also has profiles for your printer for each paper they carry.
>I think they pretty much nailed it as it comes out perfect with no
>noticable casting and thats with the formula labs ink also.
>
>hope this helps.

I really appreciate it, thanks!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

 

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"beezer" <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote in message
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> The prints were dried for several days prior to spraying. I do like
> the Idea of your sign. Where do you buy the white film at?

I got it from a local art shop here in Belgium. It's one of a range of
inkjet media from a company called Canson that sells world wide. They have a
USA web site but it seems to cover just their art papers not their inkjet
papers - perhaps they have two US web sites? There Belgian web site (English
version) is here...

http://www.canson.fr/EN/?PHPSESSID=778d1a8f120c7c4be3d451393a7c20ed

and the specific product I'm using is here.

http://www.canson.fr/Distributeurs/ficheProduit.php?num=102&lng=en

It seems to like the cheap ink I use to refill HP carts better than the
original HP ink! The HP ink doesn't seem to flow into the film coating as as
well.

Colin