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Hi, need some advice!

Firstly, my abit kx7-333 northbridge chipset fan is on its way out. It
keeps making very scary whirring noises and i can see it not spinning
round properly. So, where on earth can I get a replacement chipset fan?
I have called up Abit but no one is answering. Any vendors out there
who stock these?

Secondly, I am in the market for a new PSU. I have a Juo Juy (novatech
case, PSU came with it) 300w PSU atm. It's served me very well, BUT I
think i am getting burning errors as a result of it being underpowered.
I've been doing some reading up on this, and feel a new PSU is the way
fwd. I currently have an Athlon XP 2000, 512mb PC2100 CAS 2, 1x cd-rw,
1x dvd-rom, 2x HD's, and a Ti4200. PLUS I charge my ipod via firewire,
of which one of my PSU cables goes into the firewire card. So, that's
quite a heavy load on my PSU.

http://chris.dsl.lab6.com/~chris/misc/winbond.jpg - those are my winbond
readings - can anyone offer advice on them? I am going to get this
PSU: http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13025. My local
computer shop here in notts will install it all for me and the chipset
fan for £35, sound ok?

Cheers for any advice!

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"chris" <see@reply.to.field> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b1c2e4af344fa3a989e53@news.claranews.com...
> Hi, need some advice!
>
> Firstly, my abit kx7-333 northbridge chipset fan is on its way out. It
> keeps making very scary whirring noises and i can see it not spinning
> round properly. So, where on earth can I get a replacement chipset fan?
> I have called up Abit but no one is answering. Any vendors out there
> who stock these?
>
Make sure you change it quickly, mine stopped for a couple of hours and the
board never booted again 🙁

You can get them from most online retailers ( www.dabs.com
www.overclockers.co.uk etc) or you can be creative and thermal epoxy an old
P1 heatsink on

hamman
 
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:47:07 +0100 and in article <1085417062.613453
@news01.eclipse.net.uk>, Hamman said...
:
: "chris" <see@reply.to.field> wrote in message
: news:MPG.1b1c2e4af344fa3a989e53@news.claranews.com...
: > Hi, need some advice!
: >
: > Firstly, my abit kx7-333 northbridge chipset fan is on its way out. It
: > keeps making very scary whirring noises and i can see it not spinning
: > round properly. So, where on earth can I get a replacement chipset fan?
: > I have called up Abit but no one is answering. Any vendors out there
: > who stock these?
: >
: Make sure you change it quickly, mine stopped for a couple of hours and the
: board never booted again 🙁

The fan has never actually stopped (thankgod!) but the ball bearings are
obvioulsy wearing out, or it needs a bit of grease to help it on its
way. The whirring noises have been going on for months now, but its
only now I really want to get it fixed as i dont think its doing the
computer any good!

: You can get them from most online retailers ( www.dabs.com
: www.overclockers.co.uk etc) or you can be creative and thermal epoxy an old
: P1 heatsink on

From OC: Coolermaster SLC-S41 Northbridge Cooler - Blue LED (SY-004-CM)
- does that look ok? That will definately fit my Abit KX7-333?

Cheers,

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chris wrote:

> From OC: Coolermaster SLC-S41 Northbridge Cooler - Blue LED (SY-004-CM)
> - does that look ok? That will definately fit my Abit KX7-333?
>

I've read bad things here (u.c.v) about Overclockers. I'd recommend
Kustom PCs. The fan will be 40mm I imagine. I bought this Akasa 40mm
from Kustom PCs for my gfx card (first itmem on page):

http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/Kustom_PCs_Shop_Case_Misc_Fans_99.html

Prompt delivery.

Parish


> Cheers,
>
 
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:27:30 +0100 and in article <2hephuFc27jjU1@uni-
berlin.de>, Parish said...
: chris wrote:
:
: > From OC: Coolermaster SLC-S41 Northbridge Cooler - Blue LED (SY-004-CM)
: > - does that look ok? That will definately fit my Abit KX7-333?
: >
:
: I've read bad things here (u.c.v) about Overclockers. I'd recommend
: Kustom PCs. The fan will be 40mm I imagine. I bought this Akasa 40mm
: from Kustom PCs for my gfx card (first itmem on page):
:
Ok, seeing as this finally needed to be rectified, I just popped out to
Maplins and purchased a new 40mm fan. Have now installed the fan and
binned the old one. It all looks to be working ok! Thankgod *phew*

Thanks for everyone's advice :)

Just as a quick aside, can anyone give me any pointers about my PSU and
whether I do actually need a new one going on my winbond figures?
Cheers,
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:08:20 +0100, chris <see@reply.to.field> wrote:

>Hi, need some advice!

>Firstly, my abit kx7-333 northbridge chipset fan is on its way out. It
>keeps making very scary whirring noises and i can see it not spinning
>round properly. So, where on earth can I get a replacement chipset fan?
>I have called up Abit but no one is answering. Any vendors out there
>who stock these?

Oil it, 4 little black screws, turn over, peel back the white sticker
- use light / 3 in 1 not WD40 stuff. The whirring noise is the bottom
of the fan catching the ' quilt ' of fluff and dust jammed into the
little vanes on the heatsink, clean em!

>Secondly, I am in the market for a new PSU. I have a Juo Juy (novatech
>case, PSU came with it) 300w PSU atm. It's served me very well, BUT I
>think i am getting burning errors as a result of it being underpowered.
>I've been doing some reading up on this, and feel a new PSU is the way
>fwd. I currently have an Athlon XP 2000, 512mb PC2100 CAS 2, 1x cd-rw,
>1x dvd-rom, 2x HD's, and a Ti4200. PLUS I charge my ipod via firewire,
>of which one of my PSU cables goes into the firewire card. So, that's
>quite a heavy load on my PSU.

>http://chris.dsl.lab6.com/~chris/misc/winbond.jpg - those are my winbond
>readings - can anyone offer advice on them? I am going to get this
>PSU: http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13025. My local
>computer shop here in notts will install it all for me and the chipset
>fan for £35, sound ok?

Used them, no probs, power cables are shorter than usual on this PSU
but they still do Midi servers and towers, there are better PSU's but
it's good gear at 1/2 the price of the better ones

Purchase and fitting of both for 35£UID sounds ok !

>Cheers for any advice!
BoroLad
 
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In message <MPG.1b1c2e4af344fa3a989e53@news.claranews.com>, chris
<see@reply.to.field> writes
>Secondly, I am in the market for a new PSU. I have a Juo Juy (novatech
>case, PSU came with it) 300w PSU atm. It's served me very well, BUT I
>think i am getting burning errors as a result of it being underpowered.
>I've been doing some reading up on this, and feel a new PSU is the way
>fwd. I currently have an Athlon XP 2000, 512mb PC2100 CAS 2, 1x cd-rw,
>1x dvd-rom, 2x HD's, and a Ti4200. PLUS I charge my ipod via firewire,
>of which one of my PSU cables goes into the firewire card. So, that's
>quite a heavy load on my PSU.
>
>http://chris.dsl.lab6.com/~chris/misc/winbond.jpg - those are my winbond
>readings - can anyone offer advice on them? I am going to get this
>PSU: http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13025. My local
>computer shop here in notts will install it all for me and the chipset
>fan for £35, sound ok?
>

Can't see anything obviously wrong with any figures. Why do you think
your burning errors are due to PSU fluctuations? If the machine isn't
crashing or giving any other probs, I'd look at the media or the burner
itself (they don't last forever, and the first sign of impending doom is
erratic burning)

I've used a couple of the 550 W Qtec PSU's. Seem fine. Some people say
they are overrated (literally) and are the equivalent of a 'good' 300W
unit.

Oh, and I use overclockers quite a bit and find them generally good.

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On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:13:26 +0100 and in article <ZOgV2FKGtjsAFwI9
@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Gareth Jones said...
: In message <MPG.1b1c2e4af344fa3a989e53@news.claranews.com>, chris
: <see@reply.to.field> writes
: >Secondly, I am in the market for a new PSU. I have a Juo Juy (novatech
: >case, PSU came with it) 300w PSU atm. It's served me very well, BUT I
: >think i am getting burning errors as a result of it being underpowered.
: >I've been doing some reading up on this, and feel a new PSU is the way
: >fwd. I currently have an Athlon XP 2000, 512mb PC2100 CAS 2, 1x cd-rw,
: >1x dvd-rom, 2x HD's, and a Ti4200. PLUS I charge my ipod via firewire,
: >of which one of my PSU cables goes into the firewire card. So, that's
: >quite a heavy load on my PSU.
: >
: >http://chris.dsl.lab6.com/~chris/misc/winbond.jpg - those are my winbond
: >readings - can anyone offer advice on them? I am going to get this
: >PSU: http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13025. My local
: >computer shop here in notts will install it all for me and the chipset
: >fan for £35, sound ok?
: >
:
: Can't see anything obviously wrong with any figures.

Ok, cool. I really know very little about voltages and PSU's so I rely
on others! :)

: Why do you think
: your burning errors are due to PSU fluctuations? If the machine isn't
: crashing or giving any other probs, I'd look at the media or the burner
: itself (they don't last forever, and the first sign of impending doom is
: erratic burning)

Well, I'm not entirely sure it is my PSU tbph. Basically, I've had a
plextor 12x burner in my PC for 3 years, never had a problem with it.
Then I purchase a new 52x plext0r burner. It just hasn't been reliable
🙁 I get 'write errors' on quite a few discs and when my ipod is
charging the error rate increases. I am tempted to just RMA the damn
thing with Plextor and get a replacement drive and see if the problem
was confinded to the drive. Seemingly when I put the drive in 40x speed
cd's burn fine *but* I use verbatim 52x approved media, so there should
be no problems burning at that speed.

I was just hoping the PSU would fix the problem as an under-powered PSU
*can* give write errors.

: I've used a couple of the 550 W Qtec PSU's. Seem fine. Some people say
: they are overrated (literally) and are the equivalent of a 'good' 300W
: unit.

I am still surprised at just how well this Joy Jyu (sp?) 300w PSU works.

--
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In message <MPG.1b1c4f2dae9eb83c989e57@news.claranews.com>, chris
<see@reply.to.field> writes
>Well, I'm not entirely sure it is my PSU tbph. Basically, I've had a
>plextor 12x burner in my PC for 3 years, never had a problem with it.
>Then I purchase a new 52x plext0r burner. It just hasn't been reliable
>>( I get 'write errors' on quite a few discs and when my ipod is
>charging the error rate increases. I am tempted to just RMA the damn
>thing with Plextor and get a replacement drive and see if the problem
>was confinded to the drive. Seemingly when I put the drive in 40x speed
>cd's burn fine *but* I use verbatim 52x approved media, so there should
>be no problems burning at that speed.
>

Whenever I'm burning, I tend never to do anything else with the machine.
It is possible the ipod is draining a bit too much current, but then
again it just might be using some kind of pulsing charge circuit. This
won't be good for anything else in the system and maybe its pushing the
built in regulation circuitry of the burner a bit too far.

FWIW, I never burn at full speed as I've found you will get the odd
error (and with some brands of media, every other disk is a coaster)
Call me over cautious, but unless I'm in a '30 sec before I'm out of the
door' situation, I'd be burning at 24 or 32 speed and I'd leave well
alone and go make a nice pot of tea until its finished ;-)


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I dunno, to me all your voltages are off. 2.7 on Vbat looks very
wrong. It's wrong by 10%. In fact, all your voltages look low by
10%. This suggests that the motherboard is measuring low by 10%.
Nothing really to worry about in regards to mobo or psu.

I too have heard that a poor psu can cause burn problems.

I have kx7 mobo (too) but with Antec 330W psu. I would note to you
that I cannot get consistent good cd burns over 16x (over 2.4x for
dvds). I have not isolated the problem as being a hardware
setting/limitation or a software setting/limitation.

Now with your post, I guess I need to investigate if my burn problem
is psu (hardware) related. I would be interested to hear if a new psu
fixes your problem.

Forrest

Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
http://home.comcast.net/~hal-9000/


On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:08:20 +0100, chris <see@reply.to.field> wrote:

>Hi, need some advice!
>
>Firstly, my abit kx7-333 northbridge chipset fan is on its way out. It
>keeps making very scary whirring noises and i can see it not spinning
>round properly. So, where on earth can I get a replacement chipset fan?
>I have called up Abit but no one is answering. Any vendors out there
>who stock these?
>
>Secondly, I am in the market for a new PSU. I have a Juo Juy (novatech
>case, PSU came with it) 300w PSU atm. It's served me very well, BUT I
>think i am getting burning errors as a result of it being underpowered.
>I've been doing some reading up on this, and feel a new PSU is the way
>fwd. I currently have an Athlon XP 2000, 512mb PC2100 CAS 2, 1x cd-rw,
>1x dvd-rom, 2x HD's, and a Ti4200. PLUS I charge my ipod via firewire,
>of which one of my PSU cables goes into the firewire card. So, that's
>quite a heavy load on my PSU.
>
>http://chris.dsl.lab6.com/~chris/misc/winbond.jpg - those are my winbond
>readings - can anyone offer advice on them? I am going to get this
>PSU: http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13025. My local
>computer shop here in notts will install it all for me and the chipset
>fan for £35, sound ok?
>
>Cheers for any advice!
 
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 02:51:06 -0500 and in article
<uot5b0lohu0tn6d500t3ufsdi7itgcruu4@4ax.com>, - HAL9000 said...
: 2.7 on Vbat looks very
: wrong. It's wrong by 10%. In fact, all your voltages look low by
: 10%.
:
/me thinks you are not looking in the right columns 😉
You are looking at the minimum levels. My vbat reading is 3.04.

--
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In article <MPG.1b1c2e4af344fa3a989e53@news.claranews.com>, chris
<see@reply.to.field> writes

>http://chris.dsl.lab6.com/~chris/misc/winbond.jpg - those are my winbond
>readings - can anyone offer advice on them?

Your Vio and Vddr look a little high, but otherwise all okay. Is this
while you're burning a CD and charging your iPod?

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On Tue, 25 May 2004 12:03:21 +0100 and in article
<VWANCqB5fysAFwZV@jasper.livjm.ac.uk>, Mike Tomlinson said...
: In article <MPG.1b1c2e4af344fa3a989e53@news.claranews.com>, chris
: <see@reply.to.field> writes
:
: >http://chris.dsl.lab6.com/~chris/misc/winbond.jpg - those are my winbond
: >readings - can anyone offer advice on them?
:
: Your Vio and Vddr look a little high, but otherwise all okay. Is this
: while you're burning a CD and charging your iPod?
:
Fraid not. However, they dont change when I burn a cd or am charging my
Ipod so I guess that's ok..?
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Oooops !

Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
http://home.comcast.net/~hal-9000/


On Tue, 25 May 2004 10:07:17 +0100, chris <see@reply.to.field> wrote:

< snip >

>/me thinks you are not looking in the right columns 😉
>You are looking at the minimum levels. My vbat reading is 3.04.
 
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"Gareth Jones" wrote
>
> Oh, and I use overclockers quite a bit and find them generally good.
>
They seem to have taken a pasting in the Romulus2.com feedback over the past
couple of months, although a couple of my colleagues recommend them.
 
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I read a comment a in this week's Micromart implying that Qtec PSUs do not
have a good reputation. This was a response to a chap who had blown two
motherboards using a Qtec PSU. The Micromart advisor said something to the
effect that there are good PSUs and there are Qtec PSUs. This confirms some
barely remembered negative comments I came across when I was researching for
a new PSU. I have no direct knowledge of QTEC PSUs but I think I'd invest a
few pounds more for a "named" brand with a good reputation ( I bought a 480w
Thermaltake and it's been fine, but there are a number of PSUs out there by
Enermax, Vantec, Globalwin, etc. You pays yer money...).

As for your chipset fan, I got a replacement from Abit in the Netherlands
simply by sending them an email with my motherboard serial number specifying
the problem. The new fan arrived, gratis and post free after a couple of
weeks. I fear that this dodgy fan is yet another "feature" on current Abit
boards as these things seem to be failing by the score.

Fitting a PSU and a chipset fan are very simple task that shouldn't take
more than 20 to 30 minutes. If you're satisfied that the bloke in your your
local computer shop is able to count his own thumbs without prompting,
thirty five quid seems not a bad investment to avoid having to carry out
these fiddly jobs yourself.
 
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chris wrote:
> Well, I'm not entirely sure it is my PSU tbph. Basically, I've had a
> plextor 12x burner in my PC for 3 years, never had a problem with it.
> Then I purchase a new 52x plext0r burner. It just hasn't been reliable
> 🙁

It's cos j00 r n0+ l33+0® buC|<10®

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