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Hey guys. I've been researching for a while and I'm getting to the point where I may be upgrading my GPU and or PSU.

SUMMARY: <<<Just want to play BF3 @ 1680 x 1050 NEED GPU, PSU may not power well enough>>>>>

My hardware:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
A reviewer claims: "It has FOUR 12V rails that run steady at 18 amps each!! The 3.3V rail runs at 36 amps and the 5V at 30 amps!" But I'm not sure of those amps.

I have 8 GB of these Ripjaws:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

i7 860 CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214

This motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425

Currently I have this GTX 260 216:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130434

Like 4 sata HD's, some fans, dvd drive...

I used duel monitors, 22" but only game on 1, resolution of both is 1680 x 1050.

The GTX 260 I paid around $140 or something after rebate 4/28/2009. I've been trying to get deals on cards since I paid full price (~400 after rebate?) for a 7900 GTX back in the day lol.

I'm going to be playing BF3 and I hate FPS games that spike in gun fights or in combat anywhere. The 260 seemed to do that a bit ofc. Can't max it out for sure. I'm interested in GTX 560 ti or a 570 (but hate how they seem to blow up and aren't reliable), and I reallllly don't want to spend ~450 again on a 580.

I really don't want an ATI... Convert me if you must. This would probably solve my problem with the 570 though if I'd get the 6970, or 6950 and unlock it, but I don't know which to buy or where to find the how-to to unlock the 6950.

So with my PSU, which can I get without upgrading and which would I have to upgrade to get (mainly because of the rails and amps I'm pretty sure I'd have to upgrade to for a 580).

My 260 handles everything else just fine, except for BF3. So if a 560 ti will solve this WELL then I really would love to spend the less money.

I also don't want to get a 580 if the new kepler series comes out soon.

Any charts, graphs, benchmarks, advice, help, links, or criticism is appreciated!
 

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Seconded, your psu should be fine. Going ati wouldn't be a bad idea if you are open to it. The 6970 is a pretty solid card and I have not heard first hand (the only stories I really take into account) any issues with them. I love my his iceq 6970. If you can stand how ugly it is and have space in your case, I highly recommend.
 

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Well, space is up to the case and motherboard, so my case is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144164

Yeah I am skipping the 460, I have the $$$ for the 500 series.

I really know very little about the AMD ATI 6000 series...
 

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Alright, that's what I'm leaning towards. Now I know all manufacturers cards aren't the same. Are there any particular manufacturer and card versions that I should aim for or stay away from?

Djentleman is it for sure a month lol? Hmmm
 

The rumor is a month and half(Dec 6th) and it's certainly not definite that it's true. Even if so there is no guarantee that they will offer better value for the money, especially when first launched.
 

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After reading its reviews it seems to have amazing cooling, 60 c ay
60% fan is really good imo. Which versions have better cooling BTW?
 
Any non reference design card has better cooling, runs with less noise.
Like said above the GTX 560Ti is very good at your resolution.
OCZ StealthXtream & ModXtream have creepy reviews when going SLI/CF... but you're fine with a single card.

I would recommend the Gigabyte above or the MSI Twin Frozer II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594
Most of purchases goes to the TWIN Frozer...the Asus Direct CU II is pretty awesome specially when OCed, but it takes 3 slots which makes a big problem
 
Don't know too much about warranty as it differs from country to another. But no company cover any card damaged by OCing or a flashed BIOS.
But for sure if the card has a problem during the period of warranty, you RMA it
 
There's no real difference between the OCed Twin Frozr and the non-OC model. In this case though the OCed card is actually cheaper because of the free shipping even before accounting for the $20 mail-in rebate so there's no reason not to get it instead. Either should be able to go much higher when you OC on your own. Both cards have a 3 year warranty on parts, two year labor.
I'd still probably just go for the Gigabyte card. It does have good cooling as well. The MSI is a bit better but the Gigabyte is a much better value for the money. The $20 price difference + a game you could Ebay for at least $30 makes it effectively $50 cheaper.

@ilysaml - The DirectCU GTX 560 Ti is only dual slot. It is the GTX 570/580 that are triple slot.
 
The HD6870 is a performance level below the GTX 560 Ti at reference speeds. With the stock clocks already at 900mhz on that card it also doesn't really have much overclocking headroom in general.
 

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Whichever way you go on the Vid card you can accurately determine if your current PSU has the proper wattage and 12v rail amps. and is a quality PSU that can meet the power needs of your current or future PC build, from the link below. No guessing or speculation is required. If your current PSU won't cut it then you can find a PSU that will have enough power and be reliable.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/314712-28-please-read-determine-power-required
 

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Thanks all for your help so far!

If you sort the reviews on the MSI OC on newegg by ownership length it seems that many cards have died after 2-4 months. But most people come back to say their card failed, but not to say their card is doing great...

I almost like the Hawk version for 245 + shipping at mwave, but then I.might as well get a 570 for 300 after rebate... Hmm

If I get the gigabyte and manually OC it it wouldn't be covered if it died then correct?
 
I'm not sure if the Gigabyte warranty covers overclocking but it doesn't matter much. You overclock in Windows through software. There is no way for them to know if you have OCed your card other than if you purposely tell them.
 

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