Psu + Mobo Suggestions

Pkai92

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Hey guys, i want to build a Pc for a friend. The Pc is mainly used for gaming and using some programs like autocad. For now i am going for core i7 6700, 16-32gb of ram ( hyper x ). Msi1070 or 1080 Gpu ( waiting his reply regarding the budget ). 1Tb seagate hdd and finally a 240Gb samsung or transcend ssd. I need a good motherboard and a good Psu. Any suggestions ? Thank you.
 
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The CX series PSUs are poorly reviewed, CXms are better 'as a budget" selection but not for heavy gaming or enthusiast usage.

I love the look of the Krait board tho it's performance history gave me some concern. I haven't as yet seen the Z170 version put thru a good test.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z97_gaming_6_review/10

The ranking is based on setting the board which recorded the highest combined fps in the gaming tests at 100% and ranking the others by fps as a % of the fastest one.

MoBo % of Leader

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 - 100.00%
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - 99.86%
MSI Z97A Gaming 6 - 98.96%
Asus Z97 TUF Sabranco - 96.13%
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 - 95.00%
Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force - 94.95%
Asus...


https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0650-Y1/dp/B0106RDIN2 will easily power the 1080 or 70 with style and efficiency. With a 7 year warranty from EVGA it also protects the consumer long after some companies(3 years) have thrown in the towel.

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-2-Way-DualBIOS-Motherboards-GA-Z170XP-SLI/dp/B012AQGL4A/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1480025218&sr=8-9&keywords=gigabyte+Z170 will compliment his needs very well.

 
1. Can he wait .... With the 1080 Ti about to drop, prices will drop on the 1080 / 1070

2. As an AutoCAD user since the 80s .... and owner of a consulting engineering firm who builds our CAD Workstations, I can tell you this:

a) The best GFX option for AutoCAD are GFX cards. While Autodesks other programs like SolidWorks, and others designed for rendering do much better with Quaddro, straight AutoCAD 2D and 3D drafting does best on GTX.

b) AutoCAD does benefit from K series processors, tho you get few opportunities to see it.

c) Again, for straight AutoCAD 2D and 3D drafting, we have seen no benefit to > 2 x 8GB

d) Benchmarks will likely say otherwise, but SSDs bring nothing to the table. There is simply no storage tasks that is done when using AutoCAD that benefit. With OS and the program on an SSD, we placed the same large files on an SSD, SSHD and HD ... In every case it took the exact same time to open.

e) We have not used a HD in almost 6 years ... SSD's are far more responsive....especially with files you open frequently

Here's a recent build we put together for a colleague, sole practitioner, works from a home office ... AutoCAD by day, Gamer by night :) he was big on aesthetics cause he meets clients in home office and he wanted it to be a focal point of the room.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.39 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Swiftech H240-X Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.95)

Motherboard: MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($269.00 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Dell Small Business)

Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($104.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($529.00)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($187.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1735.19

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 10:34 EST-0500

He had a PSU so was not included in above..

Obviously he went high end on this build, and I'm guessing budget may be an issue. When ya get a budget, post and we'll see what needs to be cut to fit.




 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.39 @ SuperBiiz)
The i7 for AutoCAD, the overclocking for everything else

CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Not **the** best air cooler .. D15 will beat it by 1C ... but it is the best looking

Motherboard: MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($122.88 @ OutletPC)
63% of board owners on newegg gave it 5 eggs 78% 4 eggs or better with just 8% 1 eggers.

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Nice price on quality memory, looks good.

Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Dell Small Business)
Room for OS and all apps with plenty of room as Windows footprint gets fat with age.

Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($104.89 @ OutletPC)
Faster than any HD

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($409.83 @ Amazon)
Same PCB as this one but with higher factory OC
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_X/29.html

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($187.98 @ Newegg)
Case of the Year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfRDSGlNqI
And gorgeous in tempered glass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUkj23GgFE

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ B&H)
Has room for SLI if needed in future ... great price
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=393

Total: $1454.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 11:39 EST-0500
 
look at the MSI Z170A krait gaming 3x board and a corsair cx750, both are great products, absolutely love both.. currently running a 6700k@4.6 on mine
cpu: i7-6700k
cooling: corsair h110igtx with corsair ml140pro fans
mobo: msi z170a krait gaming 3x
ram: patriot viper4 2800
storage: samsung evo 850+840 both 500gb
gpu: asus nvidia 1060 6gb OC edu (strix rog)
psu: corsair cx750
case: corsair 400c

edit: krait gaming 3x
 
The CX series PSUs are poorly reviewed, CXms are better 'as a budget" selection but not for heavy gaming or enthusiast usage.

I love the look of the Krait board tho it's performance history gave me some concern. I haven't as yet seen the Z170 version put thru a good test.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z97_gaming_6_review/10

The ranking is based on setting the board which recorded the highest combined fps in the gaming tests at 100% and ranking the others by fps as a % of the fastest one.

MoBo % of Leader

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 - 100.00%
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - 99.86%
MSI Z97A Gaming 6 - 98.96%
Asus Z97 TUF Sabranco - 96.13%
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 - 95.00%
Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force - 94.95%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Hero - 93.67%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Formula - 93.58%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gene - 91.69%
Asus Z97-A - 89.57%
MSI Z97 Mpower MAX AC - 88.20%
MSI Z97S Krait SLI - 71.01%

Again, as of yet I haven't found a good, detailed review on the Z170 Krait. And while I have gotten some very favorable recommendations from those that have it ....I don't really have anything but word of mouth to support the recommendation. I was hoping you could point me to one that did game testing. With many folks doing white themed builds these days, I'd like to be able to better support recommend it it for folks on a budget ... in other words, put some numbers behind the recommendations from users.


 
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