Quad-Core prices: when is going to drop to my pocket? huh?

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QUAD-CORE PRICES: When is it suppose to reach affordable prices? At least when can we see it under $600 ?

How many months? I am tired to wait! :evil: WTH!
 

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Don't hold your breath...It'll be a LLLOOONNNGGG time till they reduce that...Look at the extreme editions of P4, they took forever to be reduced in prices...
 

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Well I don't think comparing it to the extreme editions price makes much sense because extreme editions are always going to be $600-1000 or highest priced. The better question is when they will release quad core for the non rich/extreme/industry. You know the $200-600 price range than normal people can afford. I know $200 won't be seen forever but you understand my point. Right now it's only the extreme and I think this might be due to wanting to keep regular C2D prices up and also they can only phase manufacturing so fast. They just retooled for C2D, how much manufacturing effort are they going to put into quad cores. I'm sure they want these to be well over $1000 until amd releases theirs.
 

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Mmmmm, so if the price gets below $500 for an Intel Quad Core is that considered mainstream. Since this would fall into the higher mainstream price for a Conroe I am considering that it mainstream.

I'm betting Intel will release a Quad Core that falls under $500 before the end of Q1.
 

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Mmmmm, so if the price gets below $500 for an Intel Quad Core is that considered mainstream. Since this would fall into the higher mainstream price for a Conroe I am considering that it mainstream.

I'm betting Intel will release a Quad Core that falls under $500 before the end of Q1.

And I'll have to agree with you.... But I like to play on the safe side and I'll say by Q2 2007.
 

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Dream on. Not being nasty, just realistic. By the time the quads come even close to your $600 (it was $1700 a while back on newegg) the 8 and 16 core solutions will be out allready and you wouldn't want your quad anymore. Then you'll wait for that to drop in price and the circle goes on...
 

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End of Q1?
Of which year?
I hope you don't mean 2007... cause that ain't gonna happen!
The market is far from having fully transitioned to dual core.. it's hard to justify quad cores for the masses!
Here we should always remember that the perspective of enthusiasts is completely skewed, most people is probably fine even with a single core.
So quad core, being an enthusiast's CPU, IMO is gonna stay in the "extreme" range at least throughout the whole 2007.
When Intel fully transitions to 45nm and native quad core, then *maybe* we'll see a push toward the upper mainstream market.
 

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Well, from what my friend at Intel was hinting to me, you will see the Q6600 in January and then the plan is to release lower speed Quad cores later in Q1.

Of course. Marketing pressure or strategic advantage can cause a launch date to change.

Remember, most of the press sites received both the QX6700 and a Q6600. So after the Q6600 comes out in January from what my friend was saying and they plan on releasing a 2.13GHz and maybe a 1.86GHz Quad core for the masses.

The rumor price for the Q6600 is $851. That means a Q6400 (2.13GHz) would most likely be introduced around $500.

Not to mention the talk about a faster Conroe Extreme coming out in Q1 and also a E6800 locked part.

Of course if my friend was feeding me a line then this discussion is moot. :?

Then there is the E4400 and E4300 that is also supposed to come out in the first half of 2007. This is going to hit AMD in the low end of things along with the E2xxx series that are the new Pentium processors.

The only thing I see delaying Intel from introducing the lower end Conroe's is the inventory of Preslers and Cedarmill processors.
 

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When the Q6300/6400 is released I guess... you might have to wait a few months. :wink:

At least more than a year from now.

Intel will announce Q6600 next month with a rumoured price tag of $851.

Eh, that was before AMD released the $599 FX-70. I'm hoping that will drive down prices of Intel QC further (one of the only 'positives' of the QuadFX at this stage ;) ).

Besides, there are ES Q6300/6400s at Xtremesys already... and you know what that means. :wink:
 

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When the Q6300/6400 is released I guess... you might have to wait a few months. :wink:

At least more than a year from now.

Intel will announce Q6600 next month with a rumoured price tag of $851.

Eh, that was before AMD released the $599 FX-70. I'm hoping that will drive down prices of Intel QC further (one of the only 'positives' of the QuadFX at this stage ;) ).

Besides, there are ES Q6300/6400s at Xtremesys already... and you know what that means. :wink:

Any news about that?
 

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When the Q6300/6400 is released I guess... you might have to wait a few months. :wink:

At least more than a year from now.

Intel will announce Q6600 next month with a rumoured price tag of $851.

Eh, that was before AMD released the $599 FX-70. I'm hoping that will drive down prices of Intel QC further (one of the only 'positives' of the QuadFX at this stage ;) ).

Besides, there are ES Q6300/6400s at Xtremesys already... and you know what that means. :wink:

Any news about that?

Nah it was just a CPU-Z screenshot IIRC, I saw it a while back...

Your guess is as good as mine when they will be released... I guess Intel will decide depending on market conditions. Hopefully sooner than later.

I guess the thing for Intel is pricing between QC and DC. Ideally they wouldn't overlap too much but I think it's inevitable looking at current Core2 prices.

It won't be like AMD where the best single core is still cheaper than an X2 3600+.
 

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Mmmmm, yes but no date that I have heard. It will be just a single speed upgrade. I believe this will be the last one until the 1333 FSB processors come out in the 2nd half of 2007.

Since the word is that these processors are supposed to be run on the new Bearlake chipset so if they match the same schedule that they did for the Broadwater chipset don't expect these until July or later.

This would change if AMD comes out with faster 65nm parts than the 2.8GHz parts.
 

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Looks like AMD has to do something as that Anandtech review of the 4x4 is fairly embarassing. Looks like even a 3.2 GHz FX76 won't regain the performance crown for AMD. So it looks like the QX6700 is the king of the castle until mid-summer at the earliest?
 

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Well, from what my friend at Intel was hinting to me, you will see the Q6600 in January and then the plan is to release lower speed Quad cores later in Q1.

Is there any news on faster Quads? (Yes, I know, I'm a speed junkie!!!) 8)

Overclocking my friend. QX6700s are generally overclocking to around the 3.5GHz mark on high end air cooling. 8)
 

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Overclocking my friend. QX6700s are generally overclocking to around the 3.5GHz mark on high end air cooling. 8)

Granted, but I'm a bit concerned with the OC/longevity curve. The more you squeeze your CPU the faster it should crack. I'm not sure that I want to start pumping a lot of extra juice into a thousand-dollar processor.
 

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Overclocking my friend. QX6700s are generally overclocking to around the 3.5GHz mark on high end air cooling. 8)

Granted, but I'm a bit concerned with the OC/longevity curve. The more you squeeze your CPU the faster it should crack. I'm not sure that I want to start pumping a lot of extra juice into a thousand-dollar processor.

They say the typical lifespan of a CPU is 10 years. The longest I've kept an overclocked CPU is 3 1/2 years, a P4 2.6C @ 3.3GHz, still working perfectly to this day. My XP-M 2500+ @ 2.6GHz is not far behind at 3 years... still running as strong as day one.

So I say overclocking within reason (Vcore within 10% of stock) shouldn't degrade CPU too much. How long do you plan on keeping a CPU anyway?

What generally happens if that if you pushed the chip too hard initially the stable overclock speed will degrade over time. This usually happens to the 'hardcore' overclockers who must squeeze every last MHz out of their chip for bragging rights. 8)