News Qualcomm's Arm chip beats Intel in pre-launch Windows performance demo — Snapdragon X Elite X1E80100 takes down Core 7 Ultra 155H

[Admin]

Qualcomm showed early performance results for its upcoming Snapdragon X Elite processor, comparing it with Intel's Core 7 Ultra 155H under Windows and scoring the win.

Qualcomm's Arm chip beats Intel in pre-launch Windows performance demo — Snapdragon X Elite X1E80100 takes down Core 7 Ultra 155H : Read more

 

[slightnitpick]

Visual Studio code compilation

Was the compiler's target architecture the same in both cases, or was the Snapdragon targeting ARM and the Intel targeting x86?

 

[bit_user]

The Intel laptop used a Core Ultra 7 155H, presumably (though not certainly) with the same RAM and power limit.

Has nobody sanity-checked the benchmark scores of the Intel laptop, or did they use nonstandard workloads to make that impossible? The 3D Mark and UL benchmarks should be common, at least.

 

[rluker5]

Has nobody sanity-checked the benchmark scores of the Intel laptop, or did they use nonstandard workloads to make that impossible? The 3D Mark and UL benchmarks should be common, at least.

Only one that popped up for 155h was faster, (42 fps vs ARM 39 fps) but in the same ballpark : https://www.3dmark.com/wl/377373
Not a common benchmark for x86 devices. It is meant to be a mobile cross platform benchmark so probably more representative of mobile game performance.

 

[oomoot]

Core Ultra 7 155H's RAM is 32 GB as stated by the reviewer in Turkish.

 

[Avro Arrow]

"The performance demo was conducted at an official Qualcomm event"

At a Qualcomm event, eh? Yeah, that's going to be 100% impartial....

No further information is necessary. There's clearly nothing to see here.

 

[shawman123]

I have no doubt that X Elite will be great. But what is this with all controlled benchmarking. Just release the damn thing and let the reviewers benchmark the laptops. That said its expected that these laptops will be in MBP price range. Then its irrelevant.

 

[bit_user]

what is this with all controlled benchmarking.

Two things, I think. First, they get only one chance to make a good impression. If the software isn't ready at launch, it won't matter much if some reviewers redo their reviews a couple months later and find a better situation, because the a lot fewer people will see those and most people will just stick to what the first round of reviews concluded.

Second, because Windows/ARM is still pretty new (esp. the x86-64 emulator, which is new to Win 11), I expect they're doing a lot of performance tuning.

Just release the damn thing and let the reviewers benchmark the laptops.

Because then you end up with reviews like this, where most of the benchmarks are testing x86 apps:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...e-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-8cx-Gen-3.665008.0.html
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[watzupken]

I have no doubt that X Elite will be great. But what is this with all controlled benchmarking. Just release the damn thing and let the reviewers benchmark the laptops. That said its expected that these laptops will be in MBP price range. Then its irrelevant.

Great or not, we won't know until the chip is reviewed by independent reviewers. I would however try not to inflate the expectations just because Apple M1 was an incredible success. The reason is because unlike Apple , Qualcomm have little to no control over software optimization in the Windows ecosystem. So while the chip may be powerful, a significant portion of the performance may be wasted due to inefficiencies with software. Hence in this case, they are clearly limiting what can be tested with the new chip.

 

[Pierce2623]

So is it still impossible to run Windows games in Windows on ARM? 2024 was supposed to be the year they made big advancements on that.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

The irony of a publication telling readers to take the results with a grain of salt because of the controlled environment when said publication conducts their reviews in a very controlled environment on a PC locked to a soon to be unsupported Windows 10 release (from 2022).

 

[TerryLaze]

So is it still impossible to run Windows games in Windows on ARM? 2024 was supposed to be the year they made big advancements on that.

You don't need windows on arm to play windows games on arm...
You can try box86 which allows you to run proton on arm so you can run windows and steam games.