JackNaylorPE :
The GTX isn't $100 more than the 5870....your pricing is outta date, you've just about doubled the actual cost difference based upon what the article is quoting.
Actually pricing is current, NewEgg listed, cheapest 5870 $409, cheapest GTX295 (out of stock) is $509 so at minimum $100 difference (plus tax), and for the only GTX295 in stock it's a $290 difference. So his figure is pretty accurate, regardless of what old articles quote as the price at the time of their writing that you're using.
Also, with all major consoles supporting PhysX, which is easier for a game developer to put on the table ? The PHysX effort gets to share development economies of scale with XBox, PS3 and Wii versions.
GPU physX is on NONE of those consoles, not event he one with the nVidia GPU, so one again, you're talking apples & oranges, and it'd be just as easy to make the PhysX layer OpenCL or DirectCompute as it would be to make it work on the Wii (which is a complete recode) and the only reason nV would try to keep it to CUDA would be to interest those who can't figure out that Phys isn't a reason to get a graphics card anymore than Eyefinity is a reason for the average user either.
For the 2 years nV has had PhysX, they have done little to make it any more compelling than it was when it was a PPU solution under Ageia, which doesn't speak well for the future either.
All I want is for people to be able to make their own value judgments w/o having anyone else's value system pushed upon them.
That's not what you want, it definitely doesn't reflect your posts even in this thread.
BTW, you know how people make their own value judgments? They listen to all the information provided by all side and all the counterpoints, and then they make their OWN decisions, saying that above is a cop-out trying to stifle AMW from replying as if you have a moral high ground wanting something he couldn't possible want either. Same when you try and discredit his pricing.
You aren't seeing it from both sides as you say, cause if you were you would've come to the conclusion in my post above this that it's better to get a GTS250 with the HD5870 and get EVERYTHING than pay the same or MORE for the GTX295 and get much less.
And your beer analogy sucks, because those are all terrible beers for the mid-class, even from those breweries. No one is trying to make you drink Colt 45, or Old Speckled Hen, but we are telling you to stop telling people that the reason they should buy a beer is for the free coasters that comes with the 6 pack as a sign of quality. [:thegreatgrapeape:5]