Question about GTX 1080 and a 1080p 60Hz monitor

[nihil___]

Hello there.

I've been trying to come up with the best possible build for a 1300 euro budget for some time now and I think it's going well. I'm posting my list cause you're probably gonna need it to answer my question.

Fractal Design Meshify C TG

AMD ​Ryzen 5 2600X Box

MSI X470 Gaming Plus

Gigabyte GeForce GTX1080 8GB (GV-N1080WF3OC-8GD)

"Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4-3200MHz (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16)

Kingston A400 240GB

Western Digital Blue 3.5"" 2TB

PSU CORSAIR CΧ SERIES MODULAR CX650M - 650W

I was able to find the gtx 1080 for about 500 euro and since it's just 50 euro on average more expensive than the 1070, I think I should go with it. I see it as a more "futureproof" purchase as the GTX 1060, for example, is probably absolutely fine for now but will inevitably fall off later. My problem is the monitor. I have a Philips 231TE4LB 1920x1080 / 60 Hz. I know it's bad but I got it free some years ago and I've been using it ever since.

Is there 100% going to be screen tearing with this GPU and if the answer is yes, will V-sync and its downsides practically make the card a bad purchase? I'll definitely be looking for a new monitor but it's not going to happen so soon (need to get the actual budget first after the purchase of the entire pc and better monitors are actually really expensive) and I thought that it'd be better to get the gtx 1080 now, seeing this as a more solid investment.

FYI I'm looking to play the recent AAA titles as well as some olders like TES Skyrim. I also play LoL.

What do you think? Thanks in advance for your time guys.

 

[Dunlop0078]

There will likely be quite a lot of tearing at 1080p in a game like LOL on a 60hz monitor with no vsync. You will get well over 60fps. I would personally use vsync, or maybe fast sync with a game like LOL. The downsides of vsync are not really that bad, it introduces a bit of input lag which I personally cant notice. A gtx 1080 will hit 1080p 60fps in really anything so you are unlikely to fall below 60fps with vsync on, so stuttering should not be an issue.

 

[nihil___]

There will likely be quite a lot of tearing at 1080p in a game like LOL on a 60hz monitor with no vsync. You will get well over 60fps. I would personally use vsync, or maybe fast sync with a game like LOL. The downsides of vsync are not really that bad, it introduces a bit of input lag which I personally cant notice. A gtx 1080 will hit 1080p 60fps in really anything so you are unlikely to fall below 60fps with vsync on, so stuttering should not be an issue.

So you're suggesting that I should stick to my choice and just adjust depending on each game? Also, would there be noticeable tearing in games like let's say TES Skyrim or PUBG?

 

[Dunlop0078]

Pretty much yes. There is going to be tearing in any game where you don't use vsync more than likely. If FPS is above or below the refresh rate tearing can occur.

Skyrim cant really run at more than 60fps, not stable anyway. The physics engine freaks out if you disable iPresentinterval and let the game run at more than 60fps, not a good idea it can introduce some game breaking bugs.

 

[nihil___]

Pretty much yes. There is going to be tearing in any game where you don't use vsync more than likely. If FPS is above or below the refresh rate tearing can occur.

Skyrim cant really run at more than 60fps, not stable anyway. The physics engine freaks out if you disable iPresentinterval and let the game run at more than 60fps, not a good idea it can introduce some game breaking bugs.

Ok, so just to sum things up. You think that I should buy the gtx1080 (probably going for the MSI GeForce GTX1080 8GB Gaming X (GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G) for 522 euro tbh due to better quality over the GB) and always have v-sync enabled. I mean, it's not a stupid decision for the price and upgrade potential/ relative 'future-proof' idea , right?

Finally, does it roll nicely with the rest of the build? What's your opinion on that? Sorry to bother you but I've been reading a lot of reviews/ forum discussions/ builds and I'm a bit confused. I promise that I'm not gonna ask you anything else 😛

 

[Dunlop0078]

Yes, it's overkill for 1080p 60fps now and likely into the near future. However if you want to be as "future proof" as possible it's a fine choice, especially if you plan to upgrade the monitor at some point. Turing is due out very soon, you may want to wait however I am not even sure if there will be a card better than the 1080 for around 520 euros. Pascel is pretty cheap at the moment.

I would use vsync yes. But you should try vsync and no vsync and see what you prefer. However in games like skyrim or fallout vsync or capping fps to 60 is pretty much required.

As for the rest of the build. I would personally look for a better SSD maybe one of crucial's cheaper offerings. That RAM kit is meant for an intel board, go to it's tech specs on corsairs site, it may not be able to achieve 3200mhz CL16 on a ryzen system. Other than that it looks fine. That is one of the newer grey label CX psu's correct? The older green label versions weren't so good.

 

[nihil___]

Yes, it's overkill for 1080p 60fps now and likely into the near future. However if you want to be as "future proof" as possible it's a fine choice, especially if you plan to upgrade the monitor at some point. Turing is due out very soon, you may want to wait however I am not even sure if there will be a card better than the 1080 for around 520 euros. Pascel is pretty cheap at the moment.

I would use vsync yes. But you should try vsync and no vsync and see what you prefer. However in games like skyrim or fallout vsync or capping fps to 60 is pretty much required.

As for the rest of the build. I would personally look for a better SSD maybe one of crucial's cheaper offerings. That RAM kit is meant for an intel board, go to it's tech specs on corsairs site, it may not be able to achieve 3200mhz CL16 on a ryzen system. Other than that it looks fine. That is one of the newer grey label CX psu's correct? The older green label versions weren't so good.

Thank you so much for helping me with this cause I was really frustrated and confused. I will get the msi gtx 1080 and see what I can do about your other recommendations regarding the build.

 

[nihil___]

Also, which would be the future goal for the resolution/frame rate combo with this build?

 

[Dunlop0078]

Also, which would be the future goal for the resolution/frame rate combo with this build?

No problem.

I would say 1080p 144hz or 1440p 144hz. Maybe with Gsync if you can afford it. IMO a 1440p 144hz gsync monitor would be ideal for a 1080 ryzen 2600 setup, but they aren't cheap. You would get higher framerates at 1080p obviously but I am personally happy to trade a few frames for a higher resolution in the majority of games especially big single player games like skyrim.