[SOLVED] Question about ram, system upgrades and etc

[Kitty_Salad]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JJBMC6
This is my current build
I am currently running...
3600Mhz instead of 4000 mhz as it crashes when I oc it to 4000 from the XMP bios
it is CL18 I believe
I had Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ram at 3200 Mhz, at cl 16
Is there any way to OC the ram do their intended 4000 mhz?
I do have a new motherboard waiting to be installed : GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI Motherboard
my PC layout looks something like this currently:
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...33-A408-3E9451943BA2.jpg?width=844&height=633
two fans infront and the rad from AIO on top
(I do feel like I need better cooling as my room gets really hot when I game)
TL;DR-
1. Can I, or SHOULD I oc my ram to 4000 mhz? ( I heard ryzen CPU's especially the 5000 series (I have a 5600x) likes higher clocked RAM )
and if so how would I go about doing that

1. Should I upgrade to a 5800X3D if I want to get better frames in PubG (this is the primary game I play)
2. My wifi that I use continuously disconnects or has packet loss issues occasionally (I think this is decided on boot)

Will me replacing the mobo fix this?
Rebooting the pc, or disconnecting the USB adapter for the wifi and reconnecting (sometimes takes multiple attempts) seem to reduce or fix the packetloss sometimes...

 

[Koekieezz]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JJBMC6
This is my current build
I am currently running...
3600Mhz instead of 4000 mhz as it crashes when I oc it to 4000 from the XMP bios
it is CL18 I believe
I had Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ram at 3200 Mhz, at cl 16
Is there any way to OC the ram do their intended 4000 mhz?
I do have a new motherboard waiting to be installed : GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI Motherboard
my PC layout looks something like this currently:
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...33-A408-3E9451943BA2.jpg?width=844&height=633
two fans infront and the rad from AIO on top
(I do feel like I need better cooling as my room gets really hot when I game)
TL;DR-
1. Can I, or SHOULD I oc my ram to 4000 mhz? ( I heard ryzen CPU's especially the 5000 series (I have a 5600x) likes higher clocked RAM )
and if so how would I go about doing that

1. Should I upgrade to a 5800X3D if I want to get better frames in PubG (this is the primary game I play)
2. My wifi that I use continuously disconnects or has packet loss issues occasionally (I think this is decided on boot)

Will me replacing the mobo fix this?
Rebooting the pc, or disconnecting the USB adapter for the wifi and reconnecting (sometimes takes multiple attempts) seem to reduce or fix the packetloss sometimes...

5800X3D might give you better frames, but ryzen 5000 series does not necessary to go with fast ram as the core to core latency has been reduced by much unlike 3000 series, because the cache is now unified instead of being split onto 2 ccx per 1 ccd. But keep the ram speed on 3600 since it's better than not to.

Also 4000mhz ram is almost difficult to achieve on 1:1:1 ratio due to architecture (the I/O die is the same as the one from 3000 series). If you want to do fast ram OC, 5700G is your only way (since ryzen 5000G Series could do 4000mhz++ 1:1:1 easily, i've done 4133 C18 with tight subtimings at 5600g + b550m pro4).

For ram, could you tell the last 5 digit of the part number, example: 04266X8810C means samsung C die. Probably i could help you with this and get some tuning done.

 

[Kitty_Salad]

F4-4000C18D-32GTRS
this is the item model number

 

[Koekieezz]

F4-4000C18D-32GTRS
this is the item model number

It should be on the ram stick itself. on the sticker label on the ram sticks, maybe you want to take a picture of it and see the x42 code if there is any.

 

[azed3000]

F4-4000C18D-32GTRS
this is the item model number

You have a really good kit of ram, unfortunately it isn't AMD optimized so you will have a hard time hitting 4000mhz. Its very rare you will hit the full rated speed on a "non AMD optimized" ram stick. Had a similar issue with my mates build, wouldn't even hit 3600mhz.

Youll need a kit like this to hit 4000:

Buy Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32GB (2x16GB) 4000MHz DDR4, Black | Memory | Scorptec Computers

 

[Kitty_Salad]

So https://pcpartpicker.com/list/844XRv I upgraded my stuff and it was the mobo that was disconnecting / having packetloss and not supporting 4000 mhz

 

[Koekieezz]

You have a really good kit of ram, unfortunately it isn't AMD optimized so you will have a hard time hitting 4000mhz. Its very rare you will hit the full rated speed on a "non AMD optimized" ram stick. Had a similar issue with my mates build, wouldn't even hit 3600mhz.

Youll need a kit like this to hit 4000:

Buy Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32GB (2x16GB) 4000MHz DDR4, Black | Memory | Scorptec Computers

It always depends on the cpu. 5600X usually tops out at 3866mhz, some touching 3900 to 3933mhz, golden bin could do 4000mhz range.

So https://pcpartpicker.com/list/844XRv I upgraded my stuff and it was the mobo that was disconnecting / having packetloss and not supporting 4000 mhz

Thats nice, you could just decrease the clock to 3600~3866 range and test it with TM5 with Absolut config. I could help optimized even more if you give the last 5~6 digit on your Part Number (something like 8810C, could be different) to know what ic do you use (must tell, just the last 6 digit), also use thaiphoon burner too to determine which chip it is, also zentimings reading.

 

[azed3000]

It always depends on the cpu. 5600X usually tops out at 3866mhz, some touching 3900 to 3933mhz, golden bin could do 4000mhz range.

Ahh my mistake! I think amd optimized kit just takes the tweaking out. Solved an AMD Ram oc issue we had so thought might be a similar problem.

 

[Koekieezz]

Ahh my mistake! I think amd optimized kit just takes the tweaking out. Solved an AMD Ram oc issue we had so thought might be a similar problem.

But you're partially correct tho, some high density kits above 2x8, say 2x16 or 4x8, if it's not amd ryzen optimized, it could cause lots of latency penalty also might be some bsods, since there are esssential timings (the RTT and ProcODT timings usually) for stability for using dual ranked/4x single rank.

Hence why high speed kit above single ranked 8gb per dimm, sometimes need to have that amd ryzen optimized XD