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"Gary Mitchell" <wb6yru@ix.nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>> "Pistol Whipped" <pwhipped@NOtampabaySPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:Fr9Td.87612$pc5.34492@tornado.tampabay.rr.com
>>> In the dead of night, a faint whisper from Gary Mitchell was heard,
>>> at about 02/23/2005 04:18 AM, and I could have sworn it said ...
>>>> Pistol Whipped wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the dead of night, a faint whisper from McGrandpa was heard,
>>>>> at about 02/22/2005 06:46 AM, and I could have sworn it said ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Pistol Whipped" <pwhipped@NOtampabaySPAM.rr.com> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:K%ySd.99218$qB6.82281@tornado.tampabay.rr.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the dead of night, a faint whisper from McGrandpa was heard,
>>>>>>> at about 02/21/2005 08:48 PM, and I could have sworn it said ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary Mitchell" <wb6yru@ix.nospan.netcom.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:421A738D.A3E4DAD1@ix.nospan.netcom.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've noticed lately that many movies feature a "kick-ass"
>>>>>>>>> female character who fights like a super hero, goes on
>>>>>>>>> whatever adventure, etc. This is a fairly recent development,
>>>>>>>>> maybe a few years now. I don't remember this being the case
>>>>>>>>> much before the late 1990's, but it seems to be all the rage
>>>>>>>>> these days. I haven't looked into it to any huge degree,
>>>>>>>>> but it appears to me that most of this trend can be traced
>>>>>>>>> back to *Lara*, starting with TR 1 (around 1996).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, my question for the group: Do you think Lara started it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If so, Lara will go down in history as one of those pivotal,
>>>>>>>>> quintessential characters in our culture... like Mr. Spock
>>>>>>>>> from Star Trek, or Sherlock Holms (the quintessential
>>>>>>>>> detective), or any other character that had some cultural
>>>>>>>>> influence. Hmmm... our Lara... Not bad, huh?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You never saw Romancing The Stone?!?
>>>>>>>>
McG.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ummmm. I don't remember Kathlene Turner (sp?) kicking ass in
>>>>>>> that movie!
>>>>>>> Now ... War of the Roses! *That* was kicking ass!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> PW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right. Andy put a bunch of good examples out up there
>>>>>> Although to me, it appears that Lara did spark a movement of
>>>>>> sorts.
>>>>>> McG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not even a "lol" .... hmmm, have you not seen "War of the Roses"
>>>>> (Kathlene Turner, Michael Douglas, Danny DeVito)?
>>>>>
>>>>> And, yes, there are a number of good female
>>>>> adventurer/warrior/take-no-prisoners leads. I think Gary is just
>>>>> getting around to noticing something my wife and I picked up on
>>>>> ... oh ... about 5 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry Gary, but it was fairly obvious.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Discussing the 'fairly obvious' never slowed down the regulars
>>>> of this NG before.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That is just the Hollywood way.
>>>>> "If it sells, imitate it".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I wasn't thinking so much of imitations. What was
>>>> that one TV series, Relic Hunter I think is was. That was
>>>> a pretty obvious spin-off of Lara and TR. But that's not
>>>> quite what I was talking about.
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, it seems my attempt to get some kind of TR
>>>> discussion going in an otherwise practically dead NG has
>>>> fallen flat. So, never mind, everyone. I'm sort of sorry
>>>> I brought it up.
>>>>
>>>> -- G
>>>
>>> Why, Gary, I had no idea you held my opinion in such high regard!
>>>
😉
>>>
>>> Please, don't feel bad just because *I* find this to be "old news".
>>> I'm sure many people didn't realize it. And, h*ll, it could just as
>>> likely be my Lara-centric imagination making a connection where none
>>> exists.
>>> But to be clear. I suppose "imitate" is not the word I should have
>>> used, although I can't think of a better one. I meant anything
>>> which likened its main character to Lara.
>>>
>>> As to "Relic Hunter", I've never seen it. And if I'd ever heard of
>>> it, I'm certain I would have made a point *not* to watch. I tend to
>>> believe that any self respecting TR fan would reject such an
>>> obvious "knockoff".
>>> ... And see, plenty of discussion. You even have me chatting about
>>> something that I didn't have much interest in!
>>>
>>> It's all good.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> PW
>>
>> Oh hell no! If I'd known of it and *could* see it, I'd have to see
>> at least one episode just to see how badly they mangled Lara!
>> McG.
>
> From what I saw, it wasn't exactly a copy of Lara... I'd say it
> was more like a cross between Lara and Indian Jones. Sydney in
> Relic Hunter is a professor, like Indi, and more of a do-gooder
> than Lara. Lara is in it for her own reasons, racing to be
> first to get the prize.
>
> I don't know how many episodes there are, but it ran for three
> seasons. You could probably find it on DVD if you *really* wanted
> to take a look.
>
> -- G
nah, my son is still trying to get me into Andromeda. He and his wife
collect all of it. As soon as any season is released they buy it
I
liked Kevin Sorbo as Hercules way back there. but I've kinda tired of
TV stuff. I have so many good games to play now it's just not funny,
and I have tons of TR user levels I haven't tried yet too. Plus, I want
to finish the TR's I haven't yet! Like Lost Artifact, I have it,
started it, but haven't got 'involved' in it yet. Looks great too. No
time for TV
McG.
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