Question from a scrub

[Zonian18]

I'm somewhat computer savvy but i've never overclocked before

i'm going to be purchasing an e8500 and ddr2-800 memory

now i've read its best to have a 1:1 timing ratio

so in order to do that with my ddr2-800 memory, it means i would have to bump up the cpu to 1600 fsb 3.8ghz

i'd prefer to only go to 3.4ghz, but if i did that, would i have to 'underclock' my memory to match a 1:1 timing ?

or would it just be better to leave it all at stock , or again, underclock the memory to ddr2-667 to match 1333fsb ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

thats the cpu cooler.

would it be a big deal to go 3.8ghz with that ?

i dont want it to get 'too' hot for all day / everyday use

/thanks in advance

 

[daft]

the s-1283 is considered one of the BEST air coolers out there, unless your ambient temps are above 30c you should have no problem going to 4+Ghz, pending on your chip that is. just be sure to get the mounting brackets to go with it

 

[V3NOM]

pfffft the e8500 could handle 3.8ghz in its sleep... 4.x is reachable too. if all you want is 3.4ghz, can an e8400. or even a e5200 :lol:

if you are decided on the e8500 though, and you want 3.4GHz, you can still set the FSB to 400 (meaning RAM at 800) and lower the multiplier

400x8.5 multiplier will give you 3.4GHz. 9x will give you 3.6, and the max 9.5x will give you 3.8... anything above that (450fsb is easy) means you will be overclocking the RAM and motherboard.

so if i were you, i would get a stable oc at 3.8. give it a vcore of 1.3625 (or as close as you can get it to that) oh and make sure you get the bracket for the s1283... its on newegg.

then run orthos small fft's for 2-4 hours and blend it for another 2 just to make sure. if you don't want to push any further (and i would 😛) you can just lower the vcore 1 increment and orthos until it fails. then just nudge it up and you should have nice low temps and a long life.

happy ocing! hope that helped even if it was a little long winded

 

[Zonian18]

thanks for the tips

the more info you type the better off i am =)

so i guess i'll just go up to 3.8ghz on the e8500 then =)

also, where can i read about vcore for that processor ? or get some general knowledge on it because i'm assuming it differ's per proccesor ?
want to be able to understand it a lil bit better, like the way you knew to set it to 1.3625 =)
i watched a video and it said to put it at 1.3 even so idk lol

 

[Zonian18]

Also which Xigmatek should i get ? i'm not sure if i see any differences lol

XIGMATEK HDT-S1284EE 120mm Rifle - $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233023

XIGMATEK HDT-RS1283 120mm CPU Cooler - $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233012

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - $36.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

 

[V3NOM]

well every processor comes with a different VID. that means the factory voltage it will work at stably. often though it can actually work stably lower than that cause intel overvolts em from the factory...

in any case, intel says 1.3625 is the max safe 24/7 voltage for a number of years.

now, theres a couple of problems with that...

1: I highly doubt that computer will be on 24/7 for a number of years, or 24/7 at all.
2: who keeps a system for that many years anyway?

so if you feel like playing on the safe side, 1.3625 regardless of the factory VID is the way to go. if that's not enough for 3.8 (which i HIGHLY doubt unless you get a real crappy chip), then 1.4-1.45 is fairly safe as well.

but since you're stopping at 3.8 (supposedly 😛 you won't be able to resist the speed :lol 1.3625 then slowly dropping it down until it fails is fine

thats it, im out hope i helpd cya!

 

[Zonian18]

I'm going to be using MX-2 paste on my E8500 EO, my question is this

should i go with the less user friendly but according to test, better Shin-Etsu G751, and lap my CPU ?

the lapping part looks easy as hell because i've had alot of experience doing so as a mechanic on engine parts for ships etc, and i've seen video's and read how to do it on multiple guides, so lapping isnt a concern with me as to weather or not i would screw up my cpu.

anyhow back to the original question, with those 2 changes (paste / lapping), would i be seeing noticable CPU temp differences ?

using Xigmatek RS1283 with Crossbow backplate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233012

i mean if i'm going to be seeing 10ºC difference, i think that might be a worthy investment to do if i'm gong to OC to 3.8ghz

/thoughts ?