question: jutter related to eye straing

[brandonhoag]

I have tried many monitors over the years. I am looking for something with the smallest possible jutter.

Right now I have an Acer GD265Hz. It has a 2ms response time. I tried the 120HZ DVI-D mode but I like the XGA better. It is easier on my eyes. Now i'm researching input lag. I'm trying to figure out if that's what I've been looking for, low input lag.

To clarify. I can see all monitors refresh. I used to look for the refresh rate when I was a kid and once I saw it my eyes got stuck on it. Now I see jutter. Dont' looks I never figured out how to get rid of the problem other than buyer a nicer monitor.

Anybody know how to find the lowest amount of jutter?

 

[4745454b]

I can see all monitors refresh.

??? LCDs don't refresh like CRT, they update. (LCDs can't refresh, they lack the scan gun.) Idk what you think you see on the LCD, but its not the refresh rate.

Input lag isn't something you can see. It's something you feel. It's a lag in having a keypress happen before it shows up on the screen. You definitely want a monitor with low input lag. It's not really something that shows up in specs though so you'll probably need to read a review.

"jutter" isn't a term I know. Can you describe what it looks like? Or a video/pic?

 

[brandonhoag]

I have heard that you can not see the input lag. I used to just get eye strain. After looking for the refresh I have been stuck seeing jutter on every monitor sense 1997. I know that nearly everyone can't see it but I am unfortunate.

I can not produce a picture. I see all monitors on and then off then on again and so on, like when we had CRT monitors and we tried to video with the video camera. The camera was not compatible with all refresh rates. That's what I see on every monitor now. It is more slight but it hurts my eyes allot more than people who do not see this.

Like I said don't look for the jutter. People don't normally see it. I can't get rid of it so I try to get monitors that are easy on the eyes.

 

[4745454b]

Very odd, no idea what it could be. As I said they lack a scan gun so its not anything like with CRTs.

 

[brandonhoag]

There is an explenation for it in this article I just found. You may already know. Section, "Can response time tie together with input lag?" at this link http://www.displaylag.com/exposed-input-lag-vs-response-time/

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Nope, that's only for moving objects, when the screen changes rapidly. I see nothing new, other that he's trying to combine unrelated factors.

The way I interpret what you are saying is that you see flickering even on a still screen (e.g. the desktop, or a document).

 

[4745454b]

It's not really something that shows up in specs though so you'll probably need to read a review.

That's what I wrote about input lag. I wish there was a metric they'd give us, but there isn't. Thankfully its not common on computer monitors.

Any chance you just see the artifacts from a lack of Vsync? Does it happen even on the desktop or a blank office doc? Try a different cable? Something electromagnetic near the monitor?