It is super difficult for me to recommend any consumer support Nvidia and partners on this raping currently going on with the 4xxx series. As you have stated yourself, it is easy to be a choice of almost completely new high end PC OR A graphics card.
We could probably offer more assistance if you would list complete specs of what you are currently using, a general budget and desired use case.
Thank you so much for the reply.
I fully agree with your terminology of what's being charged for these cards.
My existing system is a cobbled together assortment, of a VERY old GPU. And a mix of low-end parts, I bought a couple years ago, and put in.
- GTX 980ti
- Intel Core i5 11400F
- BE QUIET BK021 Dark Rock 4
- CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 64GB 2 x 32GB DDR4 3200 PC4-25600
- Evga Psu 650W Supernova 650 G5 Atx Mod 80+G
- MSI MAG B560M MORTAR WIFI Gaming Motherboard, M-ATX
- GameMax Silent Mid-Tower PC Gaming case
- 2 x SSDs, plus 1 HDD.
- 3 case fans.
I use the PC for mainly gaming, (not competitive, just Steam) Blender, and VR.
But it chugs in VR, when things get to high poly.
And lags in Blender, especially sculpting. I managed to get a sculpt of 3 mil verts, but it was like pulling teeth.
I was looking for the best card I could afford to replace the 980ti, (which I have to say has been utterly incredible for an 8-year-old card.) But the rest of my rig is struggling.
I looked on "part picker" and it said a 4000 series would fit my mobo, but I would need an 850 (or more) PSU.
As said above, my initial thought was to just put a much better GPU, and higher PSU in what I already have.
But then I thought, about the Ram, and the CPU, both of which are not great.
And instead upgrade to a whole new PC, including the new GPU.
I would only be using the same drives, (except include a new 2tb m.2 SSD.
But would loose everything else.
I looked (again) on Part picker, and not having anything definite in mind. But was looking at something like this, below..
•• Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor
•• Intel® Core™ i7-13700K Desktop Processor 16 cores.
I like the 1300, but saw that the 1300 would need an update on the Mother board bios. And I'll be honest I've never done this.
And don't know if it's possible on a new build.
I could download the bios update for the new motherboard onto a USB thumb drive on my existing PC. But would the new PC boot up using the 1300 CPU, if the mobo needed an update to work? to enable me to update it? <- if that makes sense.
•• MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
•• Be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler
I've never used water cooling, so was going to stick with air. But would not rule water out, if better.
•• Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 5200MHz C40 Intel Optimised Desktop Memory
•• Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 64GB (4x16GB) 6400MHz C32
Not sure which would be better.
•• Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
•• Be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case
I just want as quiet, and affordable case as possible. I'm not at all bothered what it looks like.
•• Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Or equivalent 850 fully modular. As there are none of these in stock. But again I would like to keep it around the £100 or so mark, and not pay £250 for a PSU.
•• Possibly a couple more case fans.
And then the GPU.
•• MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card.
But none of this is set in stone, its been years since I built the last PC.
The 3 ½ big questions would be.
1 ♦ Are there any alternatives that would be suggested, to replace any of the above listed components.
The only stipulation as well as a quiet case, would be, I really would like Bluetooth on whatever Motherboard, as I find dongles never work for me.
2 ♦ The 4080 question.
Is it worth going for one, or should I wait for the 5000 series? I have waited a long time to get a new PC, and on my budget, I really would not want to go for an extortionate 4080, and the in 3 months, they launch the 5080 with a lower price tag, and a much better performance.
Or even a 4080ti.
I can wait I'm in no real hurry. this PC plays most games, and I can plod along in Blender for now.
2 ½ ♦ Would an 850 PSU be enough to power the above rig, or the likes.
And finally question 3. ♦
And I don't want to sound like scrooge, unfortunately as much as I want/need a new PC, with the price of energy at this time.
This is a question I have no clue about.
I am unemployed ATM, so I get up switch the PC on, and leave it on all day. Sometimes I'm on it, playing, or modelling, or just surfing.
Other times its just idling.
Would this new kit, going from a 650 PSU, to an 850 <(if an 850 is powerful enough.) As well as the "power draw" of the higher spec CPU, and GPU, make a huge dent in the energy used?
With all of our electricity bills through the roof ATM, would this massively impact the energy consumption further. Or would it just be slight?
I hope this doesn't sound too "penny pinching." I'm not usually, I just really wondered.
I hope I haven't put too much info here, about speck, and questions.
Any, and all help really appreciated.
Thank you so much