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Actually, what Bill did in the "fraud" situation Stan keeps bringing up was
agree to adjust the sale price for the New Windsor property, and the rent as
well, to help the purchaser in some way. The result was a wash financially
for USCF. Bill checked the transaction beforehand with a lawyer who advised
him that it was ok. I don't think this constitutes fraud. Nor does it
justify character assassination, which Stan is getting very good at. Tom,
you have a good nose for B.S. so you should know that saying something over
and over again, in strong terms, doesn't make it true.
Another point: I don't claim to know what went on between Stan and Ken
Thomas (who lives nearby and is a friend of mine). Whatever it was did not
justify Stan airing the minutiae of Ken's performance (and coming close to
libeling him) in this newsgroup. A classy guy would not do that.
Stan used to be one of my favorite posters here, our differences
notwithstanding. His lambasting of Ken Thomas (and ironically not of Bill,
which he has done as far back as I can remember) is what got me thinking
that maybe Stan is a bullshit artist, or that he has a personal agenda (he
wouldn't be the first person on this board to have one). I'm not saying he
is a B.S. artist or not, just that to me, Stan's modus operandi does not
inspire confidence.
As for our little run-in last year, rest assured I didn't mean what you
think I was implying, except as a (perhaps very bad) joke. I'm sorry my post
offended you.
Angelo
"Tom Klem" <thewiz@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> so, you're asking me to rise to the defence of stan booz?
>
> i don't think so. he can take care of himself.
>
> a few years ago you threatened my life in what you thought was a cleverly
> oblique way. call that diplomacy? you had other hot headed remarks because
> you have bought hook, line and sinker the party line about stan vaughan.
> fact is, the same people who told you that (and you believed them) are the
> same ones who've missmanaged or stolen two million dollars. i have told
> the
> truth line for line, word for word, incident for incident over and over
> again.
>
> stan vaughan, like anyone, is not a perfect man. with all his warts and
> scars, i prefer his company to the likes of sam sloan and bill goichberg
> any
> day of the week.
>
> let the reader user his own discernment as to who is telling the truth.
>
> liars change their stories daily. the truth tells itself over and over
> again
> whether you like it or not.
>
> sam sloan, in my opinion, is nothing more than a grifter who is seeking
> office to enhance his chances for being in line at the trough for whatever
> financial gain he can get by selling his vote to the highest bidder.
>
>
> --
> Tom Klem
>
> "The Elephant in the Living Room of USCF politics, is unabated hatred and
> bigotry."
>
>
> "Angelo DePalma" <adpspammersgotohell@tellurian.net> wrote in message
> news:tsmdne3Mga4HdfrfRVn-vw@garden.net...
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Stan is not the most diplomatic poster on RGCP. In one day, over two
> posts,
>> he called me an idiot and a prick. You may or may not agree but you could
>> say that within the context those were inappropriate names.
>>
>> What Bill did may have been inadvertant. I doubt it would qualify as
>> outright fraud. Maybe to a tightwad accountant. Lots of people make white
>> lies on mortgage applications.
>>
>> But hey, you know me by now. If Bill had run over an entire kindergarten
>> class with a huge SUV, massacred them all and backed up several times to
>> make sure they were all dead, I would defend him. I have no morals. I'm
> such
>> an immoral scumbag I endorsed Tim Hanke even though he isn't running.
>>
>> adp
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom Klem" <thewiz@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:TMj9e.42827$A31.23090@fed1read03...
>> > Your opinion is noted.
>> >
>> > Stan Booz is saying that Goichberg helped to defraud a mortgage
>> > company.
>> > Seems to me that there must be something to it if the former VP of
> Finance
>> > and board member Tom Dorsch said almost exactly the same thing.
>> >
>> > Is he the next one to feel the wrath of Sloanberg?
>> >
>> > With all your great legal legerdemain, you should know that you can get
> a
>> > ticket for following too closely. Yeah, that's right. Goichberg coughs,
>> > and
>> > you sneeze.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tom Klem
>> >
>> > "The Elephant in the Living Room of USCF politics, is unabated hatred
> and
>> > bigotry."
>> >
>> >
>> > "Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
>> > news:4265bdaa.93727359@ca.news.verio.net...
>> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:50:43 -0700, "Tom Klem" <thewiz@nowhere.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> >[nothing snipped]
>> >> >
>> >> >Ever heard of Tom Dorsch? Ethix committee gulag, removal from office
>> > without
>> >> >being removed from office.
>> >> >
>> >> >Goichberg's Gulag.
>> >> >
>> >> >Tom Klem
>> >>
>> >> Tom Dorsch was the USCF Treasurer who wrote on this newgroup that USCF
>> >> Vice-President was "a white-collar criminal".
>> >>
>> >> Tom Dorsch did many wiorse things than that, but that is what he was
>> >> cited for.
>> >>
>> >> In my opinion, censuring Tom Dorsch for his general conduct and
>> >> behavior while he was USCF Treasurer was justified.
>> >>
>> >> Sam Sloan
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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