quick question from a newbie.

[beyondbasic]

Hey guys im looking to purchase my first actual gaming pc for my son. I dont have the time or knowledge to build one. i been doing some research and found this one built/new for $890 and im wondering if its worth it and can run games like gta5. thanks in advance.

Intel Core i7-4790K Haswell Quad-Core 4.0GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I74790K
HyperX FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory
GIGABYTE GA-H81M-H LGA 1150 Intel H81 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
XFX Double D Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition Black Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Hitachi 1TB 7200RPM 3.5” SATA 3.0Gb/s Desktop Hard Drive
SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224DB/RSBS
dynex 520-watt atx power supply dx-520wps

 

[Karsten75]

Don't buy a custom-built rig. Buy from a known manufacturer with support and warranties. I recommend Lenovo. If you have deeper pockets, Puget Systems or Digital Storm for a bespoke build.

 

[beyondbasic]

this is from a guy called tricitypc who builds and sells them on ebay. has 99.6% feedback and over 1k transactions. is that still not a good idea? Also i dont see anything on Lenova that even come close to the specs of the ones he builds?

 

[Karsten75]

hey, it's your dollars.

Below-par motherboard, graphics card. and an abysmal power supply.

Compare: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops/erazer/x-series/x510/

 

[Karsten75]

That video card was available around 2012. It's really a shame he's pawing them off on unsuspecting customers.

 

[Martell1977]

The power supply is garbage, the motherboard and CPU together makes no sense and the GPU, while not bad, is mid-range (the 7870 was renamed the R9 270X and again to the R9 370X). You would be better off buying the parts and paying a local computer shop $40-50 bucks to assemble it. Otherwise, go with a well known name as others suggested.

Look at Tier 5 in the PSU list...the AVIOD and replace immediately tier:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

 

[crinkdude]

Lenovo probably has 1 year warranty and (from when I last saw them) you are not allowed to open the case(small sticker that voids warranty). You should ask the guy if you get full warranty for each part. If not try and find similar parts on newegg and build yourself

 

[Casper01]

not overly what i would call a "gaming pc". Other than the CPU, everything else is "average" imo. Video card for example was discontinued a while ago, which is one of the key features for a "gaming pc".

 

[Karsten75]

Lenovo probably has 1 year warranty and (from when I last saw them) you are not allowed to open the case(small sticker that voids warranty). You should ask the guy if you get full warranty for each part. If not try and find similar parts on newegg and build yourself

For $55 you can get a 3-year in-home warranty for that Lenovo desktop I linked.

 

[beyondbasic]

that sure bench marks a lot better. thanks a lot i will probably be going with that. assuming thats probably the best bet in the 1k range>?

 

[Karsten75]

Like could you pinpoint the "best" automobile in the $25K range?

 

[beyondbasic]

Like could you pinpoint the "best" automobile in the $25K range?

apparently being new to all this doesn't do well on this forum? again I'm asking cause i don't know but that's for the sarcasm. have a good night and thanks for the help.

 

[USAFRet]

Like could you pinpoint the "best" automobile in the $25K range?

apparently being new to all this doesn't do well on this forum? again I'm asking cause i don't know but that's for the sarcasm. have a good night and thanks for the help.

There is no 'best' for a particular price. There is, indeed, a worst, or close to worst.
That system you initially specified falls into the 'worst' category.

The main questions is, are you up for building one on your own? It's easier than you may think.

 

[beyondbasic]

Like could you pinpoint the "best" automobile in the $25K range?

apparently being new to all this doesn't do well on this forum? again I'm asking cause i don't know but that's for the sarcasm. have a good night and thanks for the help.

There is no 'best' for a particular price. There is, indeed, a worst, or close to worst.
That system you initially specified falls into the 'worst' category.

The main questions is, are you up for building one on your own? It's easier than you may think.

sadly i dont have the any technical abilities with this stuff so my best bet is to pay someone to build for me or to buy from a known company. how do you guys feel about the ibuypower?

 

[Karsten75]

I'm sincerely sorry if it came off as sarcasm. It was meant to be jocular and to reflect that there are many different opinions on these matters.

It's not a top-performer, but it's no slouch. If it was mine, I'd not build with an i7 processor, but instead opt for an i5 processor and put the extra money into a better graphics card.

Lenovo is currently the largest PC company world-wide. They are the remnants of the old IBM PC company and much of that quality is still preserved in their builds. When I bought off-the shelf PCs, I always bought Lenovo and was never disappointed. Still would buy their laptops.

If I misses something else in your "quick" question, please post back and I will try to take more time and explain.

 

[USAFRet]

Like could you pinpoint the "best" automobile in the $25K range?

apparently being new to all this doesn't do well on this forum? again I'm asking cause i don't know but that's for the sarcasm. have a good night and thanks for the help.

There is no 'best' for a particular price. There is, indeed, a worst, or close to worst.
That system you initially specified falls into the 'worst' category.

The main questions is, are you up for building one on your own? It's easier than you may think.

sadly i dont have the any technical abilities with this stuff so my best bet is to pay someone to build for me or to buy from a known company. how do you guys feel about the ibuypower?

From some of the threads and problems here, iBuyPower, or CyberPower, are not really any better than what you initially listed.
Yes, you have better specificity over parts, but you have to be REAL careful, and know exactly what you're selecting. Anything that does not mention the brand and model specifically...beware.

And then you're trusting the 19 year old, with two weeks on the job and a hangover, to assemble it for you.

For instance..."Why is my brand new (iBuyPower or similar) PC running crappy?!?"
Turns out, the CPU was throttling down due to getting too hot.
Why was it getting too hot? The aforementioned 19 year old did a crappy job on the thermal paste for the CPU heatsink.

That was a specific thread here a few months ago.

 

[beyondbasic]

good to know i think ill spend the extra 200 for the Lenova and have a good machine, warranty, etc/

 

[Narcissistic_Martyr]

If you want a custom rig and don't feel comfortable doing the work a local PC shop will do one for you.

Prices vary but $50-100 is typical

 

[Casper01]

I have to go with the getting a local shop to put together a custom. Even though they still will be squeezing your performance to make a profit, it won't be as bad as ebay. Just give them a number that you want to spend, what you want to use it for, and tell them when they quote it, you'll be posting it here for feedback before you buy, may make them a bit more honest on the parts they use.