quick question on my first build

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I have an Asus A8V DLX and a WD Raptor SATA drive for my main hard drive.
From what I've read on the net I'll need to install the SATA drivers from a
floppy when I try to install XP for the first time. Well not only do I not
have a floppy drive but the drivers didn't come on a floppy... all I got was
a motherboard driver CD. And I looked on the CD but all I can find are
drivers for the SATA raid. Is there no way to install XP on the drive
without a floppy? (I have access to a foppy drive but no way to get the
drivers onto a disk until Monday and I was hoping to have this up and runing
today) And does anyone have any ideas what files I should be looking for on
the CD?

Sorry for the newbie questions... I've tried to find the answers on google
but I couldn't find anything specific to my motherboard and when I go to the
ASUS website the only drivers I see that say anything about SATA are these:
Promise SATA378 Driver V1.00.0.26 for Windows 98SE/NT4.0/ME/2000/XP/2003 but
they don't realy say what they're for and my gut feeling is that they're for
the Promise RAID.

 

[Guest]

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Judging from your posted comments, I think you're a bit in over your head on
your "first build". I would try to find a local guru to try and save your
system, which is too complicated for a first time builder to undertake.

--
DaveW



"Carly" <carlya.nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MuWdnXVpYuxYnXrdRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> I have an Asus A8V DLX and a WD Raptor SATA drive for my main hard drive.
> From what I've read on the net I'll need to install the SATA drivers from
a
> floppy when I try to install XP for the first time. Well not only do I
not
> have a floppy drive but the drivers didn't come on a floppy... all I got
was
> a motherboard driver CD. And I looked on the CD but all I can find are
> drivers for the SATA raid. Is there no way to install XP on the drive
> without a floppy? (I have access to a foppy drive but no way to get the
> drivers onto a disk until Monday and I was hoping to have this up and
runing
> today) And does anyone have any ideas what files I should be looking for
on
> the CD?
>
> Sorry for the newbie questions... I've tried to find the answers on google
> but I couldn't find anything specific to my motherboard and when I go to
the
> ASUS website the only drivers I see that say anything about SATA are
these:
> Promise SATA378 Driver V1.00.0.26 for Windows 98SE/NT4.0/ME/2000/XP/2003
but
> they don't realy say what they're for and my gut feeling is that they're
for
> the Promise RAID.
>
>

 

[Guest]

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why's that? I've replaced just about every part that a computer has at one
time or another. I've just never worked with a SATA drive. I simply
assumed that if I was only working with one drive that it would function
like and IDE drive (especially since the mobo has what I thought were single
SATA drive inputs independent of the RAID controllers). I always thought
RAID was for two or more drives and since I wasonly using one I'd be in the
clear. But after I tried to install the OS I found out that I was wrong and
that apparently all SATA drives have to be installed as some sort of RAID.

I'll freely admit that I don't know all that much about SATA but I don't
think I need someone to build the computer for me!

"DaveW" <none@zero.org> wrote in message
news:s%GFc.18264$MB3.11926@attbi_s04...
> Judging from your posted comments, I think you're a bit in over your head
on
> your "first build". I would try to find a local guru to try and save your
> system, which is too complicated for a first time builder to undertake.
>
> --
> DaveW
>
>
>
> "Carly" <carlya.nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:MuWdnXVpYuxYnXrdRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> > I have an Asus A8V DLX and a WD Raptor SATA drive for my main hard
drive.
> > From what I've read on the net I'll need to install the SATA drivers
from
> a
> > floppy when I try to install XP for the first time. Well not only do I
> not
> > have a floppy drive but the drivers didn't come on a floppy... all I got
> was
> > a motherboard driver CD. And I looked on the CD but all I can find are
> > drivers for the SATA raid. Is there no way to install XP on the drive
> > without a floppy? (I have access to a foppy drive but no way to get the
> > drivers onto a disk until Monday and I was hoping to have this up and
> runing
> > today) And does anyone have any ideas what files I should be looking
for
> on
> > the CD?
> >
> > Sorry for the newbie questions... I've tried to find the answers on
google
> > but I couldn't find anything specific to my motherboard and when I go to
> the
> > ASUS website the only drivers I see that say anything about SATA are
> these:
> > Promise SATA378 Driver V1.00.0.26 for Windows 98SE/NT4.0/ME/2000/XP/2003
> but
> > they don't realy say what they're for and my gut feeling is that they're
> for
> > the Promise RAID.
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Guest]

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Carly wrote:

> I have an Asus A8V DLX and a WD Raptor SATA drive for my main hard drive.
> From what I've read on the net I'll need to install the SATA drivers from a
> floppy when I try to install XP for the first time. Well not only do I not
> have a floppy drive but the drivers didn't come on a floppy... all I got was
> a motherboard driver CD. And I looked on the CD but all I can find are
> drivers for the SATA raid. Is there no way to install XP on the drive
> without a floppy? (I have access to a foppy drive but no way to get the
> drivers onto a disk until Monday and I was hoping to have this up and runing
> today) And does anyone have any ideas what files I should be looking for on
> the CD?
>
> Sorry for the newbie questions... I've tried to find the answers on google
> but I couldn't find anything specific to my motherboard and when I go to the
> ASUS website the only drivers I see that say anything about SATA are these:
> Promise SATA378 Driver V1.00.0.26 for Windows 98SE/NT4.0/ME/2000/XP/2003 but
> they don't realy say what they're for and my gut feeling is that they're for
> the Promise RAID.



Why did you not consult the A8V User's Manual? It says clearly that
you have to use Windows XP SP1 when installing on a S-ATA drive.
(And you don't need to install drivers separately via floppy.)

Roy



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"Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Carly wrote:
>
> Why did you not consult the A8V User's Manual? It says clearly that
> you have to use Windows XP SP1 when installing on a S-ATA drive.
> (And you don't need to install drivers separately via floppy.)
>
> Roy
>
I guess I missed it somehow because all I see in the manual is "This
Motherboard supports Windows 98SE/ME/2000/2003 Server/XP operating systems
(OS). Always install the latest OS version and corresponding updates to
maximize the features of your hardware. Motherboard settings and hardware
options vary, so use the setup procedures presentedin this chapter for
general reference only. Refer to your OS documentation for more
information."

 

[Andy]

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Follow this instruction on page 5-33:
5.7 Creating a RAID driver disk
b. The Makedisk.exe utility for the VIA RAID driver is located in
"\Drivers\VIARAID\6420RAID\DriverDisk\Makedisk.exe" of the
motherboard support CD.

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:53:59 -0400, "Carly"
<carlya.nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>I have an Asus A8V DLX and a WD Raptor SATA drive for my main hard drive.
>From what I've read on the net I'll need to install the SATA drivers from a
>floppy when I try to install XP for the first time. Well not only do I not
>have a floppy drive but the drivers didn't come on a floppy... all I got was
>a motherboard driver CD. And I looked on the CD but all I can find are
>drivers for the SATA raid. Is there no way to install XP on the drive
>without a floppy? (I have access to a foppy drive but no way to get the
>drivers onto a disk until Monday and I was hoping to have this up and runing
>today) And does anyone have any ideas what files I should be looking for on
>the CD?
>
>Sorry for the newbie questions... I've tried to find the answers on google
>but I couldn't find anything specific to my motherboard and when I go to the
>ASUS website the only drivers I see that say anything about SATA are these:
>Promise SATA378 Driver V1.00.0.26 for Windows 98SE/NT4.0/ME/2000/XP/2003 but
>they don't realy say what they're for and my gut feeling is that they're for
>the Promise RAID.
>

 

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"Andy" <1@2.3> wrote in message
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> Follow this instruction on page 5-33:
> 5.7 Creating a RAID driver disk
> b. The Makedisk.exe utility for the VIA RAID driver is located in
> "\Drivers\VIARAID\6420RAID\DriverDisk\Makedisk.exe" of the
> motherboard support CD.
>
Thanks... I didn't get quite that far. I guess the main thing that's
throwing me off is that I didn't think that I needed to set it up as a RAID
since I'm only using the one drive. I always thought that RAID was for two
or more drives, but I guess you can't run a SATA drive unless it's in a RAID
config.

 

[Guest]

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> >
> Thanks... I didn't get quite that far. I guess the main thing that's
> throwing me off is that I didn't think that I needed to set it up as a
RAID
> since I'm only using the one drive. I always thought that RAID was for
two
> or more drives, but I guess you can't run a SATA drive unless it's in a
RAID
> config.
>
>

I haven't tried this yet, but theoretically, it should work. When you use
the makedisk function, you might try a USB flash drive to make a bootable
disk (but also make a floppy in case that doesn't work). Then see if your
BIOS will boot from USB (some will). A USB flash drive is really handy
anyway, and they start around twenty bucks. -Dave

 

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Carly wrote:

> "Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2koossF3o150U1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>>Carly wrote:
>>
>>Why did you not consult the A8V User's Manual? It says clearly that
>>you have to use Windows XP SP1 when installing on a S-ATA drive.
>>(And you don't need to install drivers separately via floppy.)
>>
>>Roy
>>
>
> I guess I missed it somehow because all I see in the manual is "This
> Motherboard supports Windows 98SE/ME/2000/2003 Server/XP operating systems
> (OS). Always install the latest OS version and corresponding updates to
> maximize the features of your hardware. Motherboard settings and hardware
> options vary, so use the setup procedures presentedin this chapter for
> general reference only. Refer to your OS documentation for more
> information."

Is it really difficult to open the Asus A8V Deluxe User Manual (file
e1642_a8v_deluxe.pdf downloadable from www.asus.com) and read in
Chapter 2 para 4 'Serial ATA Connectors' the 'Important Note on Serial
ATA solution':
"Install Windows Service Pack 1 when using Serial ATA drives." (page
2-24)?

I agree that it is more comfortable to drop a 'quick question' rather
than to thoroughly RTFM;-)

I cannot but wish you good luck with your 'first build'!


Roy

 

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"Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2kq9mgF4nj16U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Carly wrote:
>
> > "Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2koossF3o150U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >>Carly wrote:
Service Pack 1 when using Serial ATA drives." (page
> 2-24)?
>
> I agree that it is more comfortable to drop a 'quick question' rather
> than to thoroughly RTFM;-)
>
> I cannot but wish you good luck with your 'first build'!
>
well perhapts you didn't see my other posts in this thread so I can
understand your confusion with my post. I see perfectly well how to set up
a RAID array in the manual... but since the motherboard has 2 SATA inputs
and 2 SATA RAID inputs I thought that I could simply install my single SATA
drive in the same manner as a IDE drive. It was always my understanding
that a RAID was for 2 or more drives, so why would I need to install the
RAID drivers for just one drive. But apparently you can't install a SATA
drive at all without running RAID.

 

[BP]

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"Carly" <carlya.nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:99-dnYvEs6b_7HrdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
>
> "Andy" <1@2.3> wrote in message
> news:0cnee0dnl3viub7e1sfvp8cc81lfg1qfd5@4ax.com...
> > Follow this instruction on page 5-33:
> > 5.7 Creating a RAID driver disk
> > b. The Makedisk.exe utility for the VIA RAID driver is located in
> > "\Drivers\VIARAID\6420RAID\DriverDisk\Makedisk.exe" of the
> > motherboard support CD.
> >
> Thanks... I didn't get quite that far. I guess the main thing that's
> throwing me off is that I didn't think that I needed to set it up as a
RAID
> since I'm only using the one drive. I always thought that RAID was for
two
> or more drives, but I guess you can't run a SATA drive unless it's in a
RAID
> config.
>
The RAID driver enables the RAID controller on the motherboard and allows it
to work with the OS. You can then set up the channel any way you want, as a
RAID array or as a standard IDE-type channel. I have one drive on my RAID
channel and it works just fine.

And what is it about this question that makes people in this group so
hostile? I got the same types of responses when I posted it. Once you have
made this installation for the first time it becomes simple and obvious. But
a newbie to RAID motherboards would not have had this experience and the
documentation on the installation of the driver in the ASUS manual is
straight out of "Dilbert".

 

[Paul]

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True, you dont need drivers for a single SATA
hdd. I use one which is 120GB partitioned into
2. With XP installed on it. No prob at all. XP
will format/install on it np at all. I tried the drivers
on this hdd when I first installed on it with the drivers.

XP install couldnt find the RAID, BUT still
installed XP onto the hdd no worries at all.

Alongside an 80GB hdd IDE. Just haveta make sure
the SATA is set as enhanced when installing 2k or XP
on to it in the BIOS.

You can put 1 SATA as a slave as well. Just
go to Disk Management in XP and format it after XP
boots.


"BP" <replytoall@dufus.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Carly" <carlya.nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:99-dnYvEs6b_7HrdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Andy" <1@2.3> wrote in message
> > news:0cnee0dnl3viub7e1sfvp8cc81lfg1qfd5@4ax.com...
> > > Follow this instruction on page 5-33:
> > > 5.7 Creating a RAID driver disk
> > > b. The Makedisk.exe utility for the VIA RAID driver is located in
> > > "\Drivers\VIARAID\6420RAID\DriverDisk\Makedisk.exe" of the
> > > motherboard support CD.
> > >
> > Thanks... I didn't get quite that far. I guess the main thing that's
> > throwing me off is that I didn't think that I needed to set it up as a
> RAID
> > since I'm only using the one drive. I always thought that RAID was for
> two
> > or more drives, but I guess you can't run a SATA drive unless it's in a
> RAID
> > config.
> >
> The RAID driver enables the RAID controller on the motherboard and allows
it
> to work with the OS. You can then set up the channel any way you want, as
a
> RAID array or as a standard IDE-type channel. I have one drive on my RAID
> channel and it works just fine.
>
> And what is it about this question that makes people in this group so
> hostile? I got the same types of responses when I posted it. Once you have
> made this installation for the first time it becomes simple and obvious.
But
> a newbie to RAID motherboards would not have had this experience and the
> documentation on the installation of the driver in the ASUS manual is
> straight out of "Dilbert".
>
>