Hi guys, thanks for taking the time to read this. I was hoping you can offer me all your expert advise on a new HMS/NAS I'm planning on building. I have done a lot of looking around for the best components for this build and already chosen a few items but would like some help choosing some of the others. Following FinneousPJ's sticky here is my requirements and initial ideas. Thanks in advance for any help.
Location: Cheshire, UK
Main Requirements: (I'm not asking for much )
• Quality - Rather spend a bit more on quality components for the task.
• Low Power - Will be on 24/7 so low power is key.
• Silent - Quiet as possible, will be in bedroom at times.
• Small & Subtle - Don't want anything too intrusive for when in the living room.
• Easy access to HDDs - Don't want to be fiddling around too much in mini-ITX cases when changing HDDs.
Main Use:
• Home Media Server using Plex to stream throughout the house and across the net.
• BitTorrent Client.
• NAS for backup and file sharing.
• Small web server for personal use.
• Home Theatre (Pug hdmi into back of TV)
• OS will be Linux - Ubuntu Server with LXDE installed (subject to change as I tinker and find what suits my needs best but will always be a Linux distro)
Already own:
• SanDisk Extreme SSD - 120GB
• 2 x Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
• 2 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1333
Approximate Purchase Date: This week.
Parts to Buy: Case, CPU, Motherboard, PSU and Heatsink.
Budget Range: £300-£550 GBP (Budget just for the parts I'm looking to buy now not of the whole system to be with all the HDDs etc)
Case
Lian Li PC-Q25 - 5 Hot-swap bays + 2x3.5" + 1x2.5"
£99.95 - Amazon
Pretty much made my mind up on the case after lots of looking around but please do recommend anything which you may think suits my needs (Quite/Small) better. From what I have read it is well designed and has good airflow for such a small case with all those HDDs.
NOTES: The depth for the PSU is 160mm that's INCLUDING wiring space. Most people say no more than a 140mm deep PSU but a 150mm may fit?
EDIT: The CPU heatsink can't be taller than 80mm with ATX PSUs and 100mm with PFX PSUs.
EDIT: [strike]It uses 3 molex plugs to supply power to the 5 Hot-swap bays.[/strike] Think they have molex AND sata power connections now.
CPU
Intel Core i3-4130T 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor
£85.99 - Ebuyer
Like because of lower power - Max TDP 35W
Motherboard
Would like the mobo to have:
• 6 SATA III ports but will accept a mobo with 4/5 ports and a 4-port PCIe SATA III expansion card if it is a better choice.
• At least HDMI port, preferable DVI as well.
• At least two 4-pin PWM fan headers (Want the fans to run super quiet when system idle)
• PCIe slot for adding SATA expansion card later.
• WiFi+Bluetooth Card (Most of the time will be using Gigabit LAN but just for the times that's not possible. Bluetooth for wireless keyboard)
(Most of them are pretty common on most boards now but thought I would specify just to be anal!)
Some motherboards I had looked at in no particular order (Going cross-eyed looking back and forth between the different specs!)
Gigabyte GA-Z97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£95.84 - Ebuyer
GA-Z97N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£110.49 - Ebuyer
Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£99.99 - Amazon
ASRock Z87E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£103.81 - Amazon
PSU
No idea what PSU to get, will have at least 7x3.5 HDDs, 1x2.5 SSD and PCIe SATA III Expansion card in the case in time. Would like the PSU to be as quiet and energy efficient as possible (80PLUS Silver or better) without going bankrupt . I calculated that I would be using <250W MAXED out with an online PSU Calculator. But you should obviously buy more than you need.
I read that PSUs are more energy efficient at ~50% load but guessing they will also need more cooling so the louder the fan will be. I'll have to balance efficiency and noise. Maybe get one of those semi-fanless PSUs that turns the fan off when possible? Don't know how well fully fanless would get on in such a small case so close to the mobo and I doubt I could find one small enough to fit.
Things to note:
• PSU can be ATX but can only have a depth of 140mm (150 x 86 x 140)
• The PSU position is right above the motherboard with the intake fan facing it.
• EDIT:[strike]The 5 hot-swap bays in the case use 3 molex to power them all so molex is more important than loads of SATA plugs. Semi-Modular or Modular might make this easier?[/strike] No longer the case has both mole AND SATA.
CPU Heatsink
Don't know whether to replace this or not, the stock intel fan should be fine at keeping the 35W intel i3 cool and the case has good airflow but in terms of keeping the system quiet I was thinking of getting a super quiet 120/140mm PWM fan. Thoughts?
Would I be able to get away with a fanless heatsink? I don't think I could get one that is less than 80mm tall and doesn't interfere with the PCIe slot on the mobo but thought I would ask your opinion on the matter.
Maybe I can get a fanless PSU and a really good quiet heatsink with fan (quiet heatsink is quieter than a quiet PSU right?) that could keep both the CPU and PSU cool as CPU is only Max TDP of 35W?
NOTE: EDIT: Heatsink can only be 80mm tall with an ATX PSU or I think 100mm with an SFX PSU.
One last question: Do PWM fans turn off if they aren't needed or do they just spin very slowly?
I'm using pcpartpicker to help me with this build, here is the link to my build so far, might help you guys, don't know if you can sort of copy and edit it or not, I'll keep updating it as I decide on more parts though.
P.S Sorry for making you read such a long post but better to try and say it all once at the start than in little bits and bobs throughout the thread!
Location: Cheshire, UK
Main Requirements: (I'm not asking for much )
• Quality - Rather spend a bit more on quality components for the task.
• Low Power - Will be on 24/7 so low power is key.
• Silent - Quiet as possible, will be in bedroom at times.
• Small & Subtle - Don't want anything too intrusive for when in the living room.
• Easy access to HDDs - Don't want to be fiddling around too much in mini-ITX cases when changing HDDs.
Main Use:
• Home Media Server using Plex to stream throughout the house and across the net.
• BitTorrent Client.
• NAS for backup and file sharing.
• Small web server for personal use.
• Home Theatre (Pug hdmi into back of TV)
• OS will be Linux - Ubuntu Server with LXDE installed (subject to change as I tinker and find what suits my needs best but will always be a Linux distro)
Already own:
• SanDisk Extreme SSD - 120GB
• 2 x Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
• 2 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1333
Approximate Purchase Date: This week.
Parts to Buy: Case, CPU, Motherboard, PSU and Heatsink.
Budget Range: £300-£550 GBP (Budget just for the parts I'm looking to buy now not of the whole system to be with all the HDDs etc)
Case
Lian Li PC-Q25 - 5 Hot-swap bays + 2x3.5" + 1x2.5"
£99.95 - Amazon
Pretty much made my mind up on the case after lots of looking around but please do recommend anything which you may think suits my needs (Quite/Small) better. From what I have read it is well designed and has good airflow for such a small case with all those HDDs.
NOTES: The depth for the PSU is 160mm that's INCLUDING wiring space. Most people say no more than a 140mm deep PSU but a 150mm may fit?
EDIT: The CPU heatsink can't be taller than 80mm with ATX PSUs and 100mm with PFX PSUs.
EDIT: [strike]It uses 3 molex plugs to supply power to the 5 Hot-swap bays.[/strike] Think they have molex AND sata power connections now.
CPU
Intel Core i3-4130T 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor
£85.99 - Ebuyer
Like because of lower power - Max TDP 35W
Motherboard
Would like the mobo to have:
• 6 SATA III ports but will accept a mobo with 4/5 ports and a 4-port PCIe SATA III expansion card if it is a better choice.
• At least HDMI port, preferable DVI as well.
• At least two 4-pin PWM fan headers (Want the fans to run super quiet when system idle)
• PCIe slot for adding SATA expansion card later.
• WiFi+Bluetooth Card (Most of the time will be using Gigabit LAN but just for the times that's not possible. Bluetooth for wireless keyboard)
(Most of them are pretty common on most boards now but thought I would specify just to be anal!)
Some motherboards I had looked at in no particular order (Going cross-eyed looking back and forth between the different specs!)
Gigabyte GA-Z97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£95.84 - Ebuyer
GA-Z97N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£110.49 - Ebuyer
Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£99.99 - Amazon
ASRock Z87E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
£103.81 - Amazon
PSU
No idea what PSU to get, will have at least 7x3.5 HDDs, 1x2.5 SSD and PCIe SATA III Expansion card in the case in time. Would like the PSU to be as quiet and energy efficient as possible (80PLUS Silver or better) without going bankrupt . I calculated that I would be using <250W MAXED out with an online PSU Calculator. But you should obviously buy more than you need.
I read that PSUs are more energy efficient at ~50% load but guessing they will also need more cooling so the louder the fan will be. I'll have to balance efficiency and noise. Maybe get one of those semi-fanless PSUs that turns the fan off when possible? Don't know how well fully fanless would get on in such a small case so close to the mobo and I doubt I could find one small enough to fit.
Things to note:
• PSU can be ATX but can only have a depth of 140mm (150 x 86 x 140)
• The PSU position is right above the motherboard with the intake fan facing it.
• EDIT:[strike]The 5 hot-swap bays in the case use 3 molex to power them all so molex is more important than loads of SATA plugs. Semi-Modular or Modular might make this easier?[/strike] No longer the case has both mole AND SATA.
CPU Heatsink
Don't know whether to replace this or not, the stock intel fan should be fine at keeping the 35W intel i3 cool and the case has good airflow but in terms of keeping the system quiet I was thinking of getting a super quiet 120/140mm PWM fan. Thoughts?
Would I be able to get away with a fanless heatsink? I don't think I could get one that is less than 80mm tall and doesn't interfere with the PCIe slot on the mobo but thought I would ask your opinion on the matter.
Maybe I can get a fanless PSU and a really good quiet heatsink with fan (quiet heatsink is quieter than a quiet PSU right?) that could keep both the CPU and PSU cool as CPU is only Max TDP of 35W?
NOTE: EDIT: Heatsink can only be 80mm tall with an ATX PSU or I think 100mm with an SFX PSU.
One last question: Do PWM fans turn off if they aren't needed or do they just spin very slowly?
I'm using pcpartpicker to help me with this build, here is the link to my build so far, might help you guys, don't know if you can sort of copy and edit it or not, I'll keep updating it as I decide on more parts though.
P.S Sorry for making you read such a long post but better to try and say it all once at the start than in little bits and bobs throughout the thread!