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Hey guys, I'm Building a new PC for gaming and general use. am having a dilema of two basic builds.

Must have: Dual Monitors (Split screens) for multitasking, Mini ITX build, Quiet, As compact as can be, Future upgradable, O.C friendly.
Better but not a must: USB-C (Video output), Built WIFI, Dual SSDs (One for constant backup), VR ready for future use, 4K friendly for future use.
Budget: Flexible

First build (Intel based)

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to 4.6 GHz Turbo Unlocked LGA1151 300 Series 95W
MB: ASUS ROG LGA1151 (300 Series) DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 Mini-ITX Motherboard (Strix B360-I Gaming)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz (PC4 21300) C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16)
GPU: ALREADY GOT: ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked 4 GB DDR5 256-bit DisplayPort HDMI 2.0 DVI-I Graphics Card
I plan to upgrade in a year or two to something like GTX 2080
CPU Fan: Noctua NH-L12S 70mm Low-Profile CPU Cooler with Quiet 120mm PWM Fan
PSU: EVGA Supernova 650 GM, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, ECO Mode with DBB Fan, 7 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, SFX Form Factor, Power Supply 123-GM-0650-Y1
Case: NZXT H200i - Mini-ITX PC Gaming Case - RGB Lighting and Fan Control - CAM-Powered Smart Device - Tempered Glass Panel - Enhanced Cable Management System – Water-Cooling Ready - Black/Blue
SSD: Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA M.2 Type 2280SS Internal SSD - CT1000MX500SSD4 X 2

The other build is based on AMD as followed:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler
MB: MSI Performance Gaming AMD Ryzen 1st and 2nd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 HDMI Display Port Mini-ITX Motherboard (B450I Gaming Plus AC)

Even though I really wanna try an AMD build for the first time the reason I tend to go for the intel build is the fact that the MSI board probabely won't be compatible with the 3600 out of the box and since I don't have any AMD previous CPU I could not updrage the bios version (This board can not get upgraded using an USB flash drive).

There you go guys, I am really open minded so any suggesions and advices would be appreciated to get the best build for the cash.

Thanks!
 
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Something I would mention as an "aside".

Mini ITX is more expensive to build than Micro ATX and limits a bit of choice and expandability in the long run. I note that the case you are using is "larger" for that form factor and seems well ventilated which dispels the next concern I would have on that form, heat.

IMO, given the size of the case you have chosen I would likely consider taking a look at some of the smaller footprint Micro ATX builds to both save money, as well as more option for RAM upgrades and options in your future.
 

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Something I would mention as an "aside".

Mini ITX is more expensive to build than Micro ATX and limits a bit of choice and expandability in the long run. I note that the case you are using is "larger" for that form factor and seems well ventilated which dispels the next concern I would have on that form, heat.

IMO, given the size of the case you have chosen I would likely consider taking a look at some of the smaller footprint Micro ATX builds to both save money, as well as more option for RAM upgrades and options in your future.
Exatly as you said this case is my comproise, the other choice is a laptop with a docking station :)
But if you got a similar in size micro ATX you could think of I'd be grateful
 

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Exatly as you said this case is my comproise, the other choice is a laptop with a docking station :)
But if you got a similar in size micro ATX you could think of I'd be grateful
TBH, that case isn't small, even for ITX. I have a case that is readily that size sitting on my desk for repair...the thing is though that with this one in particular it doesn't have the "basement" for the PSU, all the lighting, or the cool glass side. Where it would be no problem to find something similar size wise I just don't think that the cable management and final look would be the same.
 

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TBH, that case isn't small, even for ITX. I have a case that is readily that size sitting on my desk for repair...the thing is though that with this one in particular it doesn't have the "basement" for the PSU, all the lighting, or the cool glass side. Where it would be no problem to find something similar size wise I just don't think that the cable management and final look would be the same.
The only micro ATX case that is as compact as the H200 I found is this:
InWin 301 White Tempered Glass Premium Micro-ATX Mini-ITX Tower Gaming Computer Case
Which is quite a nice case other than the fact that its cables managemet sucks..
Other than that I found the corsair carbide air 240 or the Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L which are 25% larger in volume which I'm afraid I can't accept.. your thoughs?

You could go with a non X 3600, and an x570 Arorus itx board, instead. The 3600x is not worth the extra price. Putting your build together, in PCpartpicker would be helpful too.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
the X570 Arorus is very expensive, more than the freaking CPU :/
 

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The only micro ATX case that is as compact as the H200 I found is this:
InWin 301 White Tempered Glass Premium Micro-ATX Mini-ITX Tower Gaming Computer Case
Which is quite a nice case other than the fact that its cables managemet sucks..
Other than that I found the corsair carbide air 240 or the Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L which are 25% larger in volume which I'm afraid I can't accept.. your thoughs?

To be fair, I measured the case beside me which isn't even in the same ballpark quality wise, but is actually right at and/or even smaller than the measurements listed in your Amazon link.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353050?Item=N82E16811353050

Once again, not even in the same ballpark on a looks or quality front, but smaller, so they are out there.

If you are looking for really small:

https://www.newegg.com/black-raijintek-metis-plus-mini-itx-tower/p/2AM-002C-00048?Item=9SIA66Z5X06888

and would mention there are even smaller...
The Metis is rather a PITA to build in, but makes a super sleek and small footprint build. I have an R7 1700 and GTX 1080 in mine...just had to remove the front panel connectors for USB and headphone.
 
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To be fair, I measured the case beside me which isn't even in the same ballpark quality wise, but is actually right at and/or even smaller than the measurements listed in your Amazon link.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353050?Item=N82E16811353050

Once again, not even in the same ballpark on a looks or quality front, but smaller, so they are out there.

If you are looking for really small:

https://www.newegg.com/black-raijintek-metis-plus-mini-itx-tower/p/2AM-002C-00048?Item=9SIA66Z5X06888

and would mention there are even smaller...
The Metis is rather a PITA to build in, but makes a super sleek and small footprint build. I have an R7 1700 and GTX 1080 in mine...just had to remove the front panel connectors for USB and headphone.
Good job with that compact mATX there, The other case is also awesome in size. However there are other parameters I should take in mind like heat, cables management and aesthetics.

What's your though of the InWin 301 combined with a fully modular PSU? coudl ease the cables issue. this one should work I believe:

Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold SSR-650FX 650W 80+ Gold ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan 10 Year Warranty Compact 140mm Size Power Supply
 
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DgcWWD

Got this AMD build set, I hope all components fit well into the case. what do you guys think? any suggestions regarding improvements?

Thanks.
So, miniITX is no more a requirement? Also i see you have one M.2 Disk, i thought you wanted RAID 1 config.
Personally i would recommend microatx. I tried to put together parts for miniITX htpc build and it was nightmare. I gave up.

Noctua L12S is probably best low profile fan out there. I have one and its awesome.

That seasonic PSU is a normal atx one and quite large imo. Also 650W is really not necessary for your build.
Also any reason picking the GTX 970?

Also in the requirements you state wifi capability, but your mobo doesn´t have one. Change of mind?
 
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Hey guys, I'm Building a new PC for gaming and general use. am having a dilema of two basic builds.

Must have: Dual Monitors (Split screens) for multitasking, Mini ITX build, Quiet, As compact as can be, Future upgradable, O.C friendly.
Better but not a must: USB-C (Video output), Built WIFI, Dual SSDs (One for constant backup), VR ready for future use, 4K friendly for future use.
Budget: Flexible

First build (Intel based)

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to 4.6 GHz Turbo Unlocked LGA1151 300 Series 95W
MB: ASUS ROG LGA1151 (300 Series) DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 Mini-ITX Motherboard (Strix B360-I Gaming)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz (PC4 21300) C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16)
GPU: ALREADY GOT: ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked 4 GB DDR5 256-bit DisplayPort HDMI 2.0 DVI-I Graphics Card
I plan to upgrade in a year or two to something like GTX 2080
CPU Fan: Noctua NH-L12S 70mm Low-Profile CPU Cooler with Quiet 120mm PWM Fan
PSU: EVGA Supernova 650 GM, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, ECO Mode with DBB Fan, 7 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, SFX Form Factor, Power Supply 123-GM-0650-Y1
Case: NZXT H200i - Mini-ITX PC Gaming Case - RGB Lighting and Fan Control - CAM-Powered Smart Device - Tempered Glass Panel - Enhanced Cable Management System – Water-Cooling Ready - Black/Blue
SSD: Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA M.2 Type 2280SS Internal SSD - CT1000MX500SSD4 X 2

The other build is based on AMD as followed:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler
MB: MSI Performance Gaming AMD Ryzen 1st and 2nd Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 HDMI Display Port Mini-ITX Motherboard (B450I Gaming Plus AC)

Even though I really wanna try an AMD build for the first time the reason I tend to go for the intel build is the fact that the MSI board probabely won't be compatible with the 3600 out of the box and since I don't have any AMD previous CPU I could not updrage the bios version (This board can not get upgraded using an USB flash drive).

There you go guys, I am really open minded so any suggesions and advices would be appreciated to get the best build for the cash.

Thanks!
Since im not sure what exactly are your needs, this is micro ATX system i would go for as an allrounder, its has two SSDs fro raid 1, great gpu and cpu and mobo with wifi

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $199.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler | Noctua - NH-L12S 55.44 CFM CPU Cooler | $49.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | $129.97 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $77.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $107.40 @ OutletPC
Storage | Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $107.40 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card | $254.99 @ Newegg
Case | Inwin - 301 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $64.90 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1116.54
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $1061.54
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-18 06:21 EDT-0400 |
 

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So, miniITX is no more a requirement? Also i see you have one M.2 Disk, i thought you wanted RAID 1 config.
Personally i would recommend microatx. I tried to put together parts for miniITX htpc build and it was nightmare. I gave up.

Noctua L12S is probably best low profile fan out there. I have one and its awesome.

That seasonic PSU is a normal atx one and quite large imo. Also 650W is really not necessary for your build.
Also any reason picking the GTX 970?

Also in the requirements you state wifi capability, but your mobo doesn´t have one. Change of mind?
Hi, yes mini ITX is not a must now as I found some decent compact cases for micro ATX which is easier to build and handle. Plus I could not verify a suitable mini ITX board for 3600.

Could you help me finding a better modular PSU for my build?
As for the wifi it is all a matter of cost/benefit and the difference in price is not worth it, better to pop in a dongle or something. I got the 970 already and will only upgrade in a year or two.

Since im not sure what exactly are your needs, this is micro ATX system i would go for as an allrounder, its has two SSDs fro raid 1, great gpu and cpu and mobo with wifi

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
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CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $199.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler | Noctua - NH-L12S 55.44 CFM CPU Cooler | $49.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard | $129.97 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $77.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $107.40 @ OutletPC
Storage | Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $107.40 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card | $254.99 @ Newegg
Case | Inwin - 301 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $64.90 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1116.54
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $1061.54
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-18 06:21 EDT-0400 |
This build is nice but I am afraid the MB is a bit expensive and the PSU is only semi modular, also i don't need a GPU as I will continue with my 970 for a bit more.

Would appreciate any additional suggestions,
Thanks.
 

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Hi, yes mini ITX is not a must now as I found some decent compact cases for micro ATX which is easier to build and handle. Plus I could not verify a suitable mini ITX board for 3600.

Could you help me finding a better modular PSU for my build?
As for the wifi it is all a matter of cost/benefit and the difference in price is not worth it, better to pop in a dongle or something. I got the 970 already and will only upgrade in a year or two.



This build is nice but I am afraid the MB is a bit expensive and the PSU is only semi modular, also i don't need a GPU as I will continue with my 970 for a bit more.

Would appreciate any additional suggestions,
Thanks.
Ok, well i would definitely stick with the 3600 non X, its a huge leap ahead then the old 2600. Other than that, semi modular PSU comes with built in 24 pin 8 pin and 2x6+2 for GPU, since you have all those components, only thing that comes to my mind is you want to buy a custom short cables? If not there is no reason to go fully modular imo. Also smaller the PSU, more room to stuff excess cable parts you have. Mobo is a bit more expensive, but since you wanted wifi i think its worth it, its quite a nightmate to fit a extra WiFi card into a microatx board, especially if you have a larger GPU.
 
You can't beat the NR400 for what you get for the money. Many RAD and fan options as well as front perferated mesh that filters dust. Just get a 2700x so you don't have to worry about motherboard compatibility. For under $200 you get an 8 core 16 thread chip and you can alway upgrade to 4th gen in the future if the performance increase per dollar is reasonable. What is your monitor's resolution and refresh rate?
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($198.48 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $774.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-18 10:48 EDT-0400
 
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You can't beat the NR400 for what you get for the money. Many RAD and fan options as well as front perferated mesh that filters dust. Just get a 2700x so you don't have to worry about motherboard compatibility. For under $200 you get an 8 core 16 thread chip and you can alway upgrade to 4th gen in the future if the performance increase per dollar is reasonable. What is your monitor's resolution and refresh rate?
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($198.48 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($254.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $774.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-18 10:48 EDT-0400
3600 is way better then 2700, wasted money on Zen+
Also almost every retailer or techshop will update your bios for around 5 bucks.
 
3600 is way better then 2700, wasted money on Zen+
Also almost every retailer or techshop will update your bios for around 5 bucks.
With either processor the 1660ti will be the limiting factor, being placed at constant full load. The goal is to meet recommended system requirements for said game. Both processors will do so for several years. It doesn't matter.
 

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With either processor the 1660ti will be the limiting factor, being placed at constant full load. The goal is to meet recommended system requirements for said game. Both processors will do so for several years. It doesn't matter.
At 1080p the 2700 will, at 4K, well, i don´t think 1K PC is for 4k gaming.

It DOES matter, you are recommending processor for the same price as one which is much better almost at everything, even at all thread benchmarks, the 3600 is almost as good as the 2700 and it has 4 LESS threads.

EDIT: also he says he wants to run 970 GTX and maybe later upgrade to 2080/Ti. That is great setup for 1440p, imagine he buys a 2080 Ti and finds out that the low IPC of 2700 limits his expensive new GPU.
 
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At 1080p the 2700 will, at 4K, well, i don´t think 1K PC is for 4k gaming.

It DOES matter, you are recommending processor for the same price as one which is much better almost at everything, even at all thread benchmarks, the 3600 is almost as good as the 2700 and it has 4 LESS threads.

EDIT: also he says he wants to run 970 GTX and maybe later upgrade to 2080/Ti. That is great setup for 1440p, imagine he buys a 2080 Ti and finds out that the low IPC of 2700 limits his expensive new GPU.
There was no mention of 1440p resolution gaming nor was there any mention of refresh rate. The only resolution stated was in the OP was regarding "4k friendly for future use". At 4k resolution the system will be gpu bound. There won't be a performance difference between the two processors at that resolution, with a RTX 2080 ti.
 
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There was no mention of 1440p resolution gaming nor was there any mention of refresh rate. The only resolution stated was in the OP was regarding "4k friendly for future use". At 4k resolution the system will be gpu bound. There won't be a performance difference between the two processors at that resolution, with a RTX 2080 ti.
Most monitors operate at 1080 or 1440.
And that's still not reason to recommend worse CPU for same money.
 
Most monitors operate at 1080 or 1440.
And that's still not reason to recommend worse CPU for same money.
4k monitors are intended to "operate at" 4k resolution.
Yes, the 3600 has a 10-12% increase single core performance. However the 2700x's multicore performance out performs the 3600 by 20-25%, which will allow for better overall system longevity before a platform upgrade is necessary. One might have arguments on each side of the spectrum as to which processor is better. This is why they are the same price.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Again, both processors meet triple A title recommended system requirements, will continue to do so for several years and this small performance difference between the two processors isn't going to make any noticeable difference.
In addition to that, the OP will not have to bring his newly built system into a repair shop and spend any money on upgrading the bios.
 
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4k monitors are intended "operate at" 4k resolution.
Yes, the 3600 has a 12-14% increase single core performance. However the 2700x's multicore performance out performs the 3600 by 20-25%, which will allow the OP better overall system longevity before a platform upgrade is necessary. One might have arguments on each side of the spectrum as to which processor is better. This is why they are the same price.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Again, both processors meet triple A title recommended system requirements and will continue to do so for several years and this small performance difference between the two processors isn't going to make any noticeable difference.
In addition to that, the OP will not have to bring his newly built system into a repair shop and spend money on upgrading the bios.
It doesn´t outperform 3600 by that much, look at the benchmarks already please. Its more like 4% in most cases. He mentioned 4K monitor as a future option, meaning he doesn´t have one now, might not have one soon, or ever. His use is GAMING and GENERAL use. I don´t see heavy render application anywhere. And again, only 4% gain by the 2700X over the 3600 in those. 2700X WILL perform worse at 4K then 3600. Again, check the benchmarks. Also gaming at 4K is a stupid idea and doesnt work well even with much more powerful CPUs and 2080 Ti keeping fps over 60.
3600 is overall much better then 2700X. For gaming, for general use, for 4K, for compiling, for Photoshop.

If you want him to buy a more futureproof chip, make him buy a better one, not a worse one. And only if he is using his CPU for nonstop rendering, day and night. Its a worse chip, by a big margin.
 
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It doesn´t outperform 3600 by that much, look at the benchmarks already please. Its more like 4% in most cases. He mentioned 4K monitor as a future option, meaning he doesn´t have one now, might not have one soon, or ever. His use is GAMING and GENERAL use. I don´t see heavy render application anywhere. And again, only 4% gain by the 2700X over the 3600 in those. 2700X WILL perform worse at 4K then 3600. Again, check the benchmarks. Also gaming at 4K is a stupid idea and doesnt work well even with much more powerful CPUs and 2080 Ti keeping fps over 60.
3600 is overall much better then 2700X. For gaming, for general use, for 4K, for compiling, for Photoshop.

If you want him to buy a more futureproof chip, make him buy a better one, not a worse one. And only if he is using his CPU for nonstop rendering, day and night. Its a worse chip, by a big margin.
Not much better. The difference is negligible:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GjSiLbCtHU


The op will have to weigh 5-10fps difference in his games with bringing his new computer to a tech repair shop and they'll likely charge alot more than $5, which at that point you might as well purchase an x570 motherboard.
Additionally, there is the option of utilizing the "short term processor loan boot kit":
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

The question is, is all of this worth a negligible performance uplift? Seems like an awful lot of hoops to jump through just to get your b450 motherboard to work with your new R5 3600. If it were me i'd bight the bullet and purchase x570, if the R5 3600 was the only option or wait for b550.
 
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Not much better. The difference is negligible:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GjSiLbCtHU


The op will have to weigh 5-10fps difference in his games with bringing his new computer to a tech repair shop and they'll likely charge alot more than $5, which at that point you might as well purchase an x570 motherboard.
Adversly there is the option of utilizing the "short term processor loan boot kit":
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

The question is, is all of this worth a negligible performance uplift? Seems like an awful lot of hoops to jump through just to get your b450 motherboard to work with your new R5 3600. If it were me i'd bight the bullet and purchase x570, if the R5 3600 was the only option or wait for b550.
Not sure why you posted a 3700X review.
Also i posted about this on linustechtips forum, and most people said they were charged 5 bucks. I was charged 4 for the update.

X570 is a waste of money right now. 3600 outperforms 2700X by alot.

Also mobo vendors already start to offer newer revisions of their mobos with latest bios update.
 

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A bit pricier but the case is beautiful, comes with a 650W PSU & has RGB. I think mixing the white with the silver on the MB & using RGB memory will really give it a good aesthetic look in a small form (if aesthetics are important to you). The PSU I think is a higher quality unit (can't imagine Inwin to use a junk PSU) and for 4K gaming I'd look at the 2070S as a minimum.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Inwin - A1 PLUS Mini ITX Tower Case w/650 W Power Supply ($199.99)
Total: $783.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-18 17:01 EDT-0400
 
Not sure why you posted a 3700X review.
Also i posted about this on linustechtips forum, and most people said they were charged 5 bucks. I was charged 4 for the update.

X570 is a waste of money right now. 3600 outperforms 2700X by alot.

Also mobo vendors already start to offer newer revisions of their mobos with latest bios update.
Show me sources. "Alot" means nothing. The video isn't just about the 3700x.
 

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