[SOLVED] R5 3600 vs R5 3500x

[andreframil]

Hey guys, i have i little doubt!
My i5 2400 is very old and need to upgrade it. I was going for the i5 9400F, but a frined of mine told me i should buy the r5 3600 instead. Then my brother told me the r5 3500x is better than both!
This are the prices here in Brazil currently:
i5 9400F ($210,44)
R5 3500x ($198,56)
R5 3600 ($249,96)
Which one should i buy? I'm interessed only in gaming, but i'm not going to overclock!
Sorry for my bad english and ty for you time!

 

[CountMike]

Hey guys, i have i little doubt!
My i5 2400 is very old and need to upgrade it. I was going for the i5 9400F, but a frined of mine told me i should buy the r5 3600 instead. Then my brother told me the r5 3500x is better than both!
This are the prices here in Brazil currently:
i5 9400F ($210,44)
R5 3500x ($198,56)
R5 3600 ($249,96)
Which one should i buy? I'm interessed only in gaming, but i'm not going to overclock!
Sorry for my bad english and ty for you time!

No, 3600 is better because has 12 threads and higher boost.

 

[Schlachtwolf]

Ryzens you cannot overclock like intel, they are pretty well opimized out of the box, I would go for the 3600 as you have double the threads which means it may a be more future proof and stay relevent longer.

Just on gaming there is virtually no difference and if it is a price only decision then the 3500x as you will have to get a new Motherboard and that adds to the overall costs. I would get a AM4 x470 board from Asus or Asrock or Gigabyte.

 

[InvalidError]

If you can afford the extra $50 for the 3600, I'd say the 25% higher cost is just about worth the ~35% or so potential performance and likely useful life you get from having SMT and slightly higher clocks. Unless you suspect you may be upgrading the CPU again during the motherboard's useful life, then the incremental CPU price considered as a fraction of the total CPU+MoBo+RAM cost should be well worth it.

Motherboard-wise, until B550 becomes available, I'd go with the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.

 

[mdd1963]

I think the R5-3600 is a shoe-in for just ~$50 more...; you'll be glad you doubled that thread count later!

 

[andreframil]

No, 3600 is better because has 12 threads and higher boost.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500X/4040vs4052
In speed rank, the 3500x is 28th /1206 and the 3600 37th /1206
It looks better in gaming even with the lower clock and half the threads.

 

[andreframil]

Ryzens you cannot overclock like intel, they are pretty well opimized out of the box, I would go for the 3600 as you have double the threads which means it may a be more future proof and stay relevent longer.

Just on gaming there is virtually no difference and if it is a price only decision then the 3500x as you will have to get a new Motherboard and that adds to the overall costs. I would get a AM4 x470 board from Asus or Asrock or Gigabyte.

is there any reasons for the 3500x performs better than the 3600 in this benchmark? https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500X/4040vs4052

Ty for the MoBo tip as well

 

[andreframil]

If you can afford the extra $50 for the 3600, I'd say the 25% higher cost is just about worth the ~35% or so potential performance and likely useful life you get from having SMT and slightly higher clocks. Unless you suspect you may be upgrading the CPU again during the motherboard's useful life, then the incremental CPU price considered as a fraction of the total CPU+MoBo+RAM cost should be well worth it.

Motherboard-wise, until B550 becomes available, I'd go with the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.

Well, i might go for the 3600 then...
Can you explain why is the 3500x higher rated in speed and gaming performance in this bench?
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500X/4040vs4052
Ty for your help! <3

 

[Schlachtwolf]

To be honest userbenchmark is pretty rubbish, they change their marking criteria like their underpants and the benchmark test tells you your PC kinda works but is not a reliable source of how good/bad your PC or a CPU is.

 

[InvalidError]

Can you explain why is the 3500x higher rated in speed and gaming performance in this bench?

Userbench is generally crap beyond giving you a rough idea of what to expect. Most games are lightly to moderately threaded, so lack of SMT on the 3500(X) isn't a deal-breaker... YET.

If you look at the multi-threaded ("64 cores") score though, the 3600 is 40% higher. That's where the 3600 will get its longer-term usability from as more heavily software become more common. Also handy for concurrently using more than one non-trivial application or game at a time.

 

[CountMike]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500X/4040vs4052
In speed rank, the 3500x is 28th /1206 and the 3600 37th /1206
It looks better in gaming even with the lower clock and half the threads.

Forget that benchmark, tests are not well defined and also depend on number and quality of test cases.