R7 260x or R7 265

[factory100023]

Hey guys. I posted something similar a week ago and i didn't get any answers :/

So my friend wants a cheap gaming PC and here is what i have come up with. he already has a case and a CX430 power supply.

Athlon 860k @4.0ghz
8GB 1600Mhz RAM
Western digital Caviar blue
GIGABYTE GA-F2A68HM-H FM2+ AMD A68H 4 x SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

The r7 265 is 20$ cad more than the r7 260x, but will the CX430 Handle it? I don't want my friend's house to burn down due to a PSU failure lol.

 

[spentshells]

The cx 430 can handle either of those cards along with your setup with ease. Either or cards are fully supported.

 

[MarkW]

http://www.techspot.com/review/783-geforce-gtx-750-ti-vs-radeon-r7-265/page1.html

Read that review and decide which way you want to go.

Corsair CX power supplies appear to have weak capacitors in them, and they sometimes fail due to them. So if your friend starts having random restarts, mysterious errors, and/or lockups, it is most likely the power supply.

 

[Geekwad]

Both 260 and 265 would like to have a minimum of 450 watts, and a good one at that if you're overclocking the 860K. AMD offers a very good performance to value ratio, but it is power hungry. That said, I don't think there a threat of burning the house down (you're not that far over the line). I'd get the 265, but make plans to upgrade the PSU soon.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

What is the overall budget for the build?

 

[spentshells]

Despite what was mentioned above both cards are fully fine on that psu.

 

[Tradesman1]

Either card should be fine but wouldn't touch the CX PSU, they are made with weak caps

 

[factory100023]

Thanks for all the responses guys !!! i appreciate it!

 

[MarkW]

Guys when you are telling someone that a Tier 4 power supply is good enough, and that is by far the number 1 problem power supply we deal with around here, something is very, very wrong with that advice. Corsair CX, CXM, and VS units are all Tier 4 now. Not recommended for any gaming system.

 

[factory100023]

Guys when you are telling someone that a Tier 4 power supply is good enough, and that is by far the number 1 problem power supply we deal with around here, something is very, very wrong with that advice. Corsair CX, CXM, and VS units are all Tier 4 now. Not recommended for any gaming system.

PSU will be upgraded to EVGA 500w PSu in 4 months... or maybe 5, 5 at most. surely it could handle it?

 

[Tradesman1]

No way of telling, as I mentioned above, I won't touch CX PSUs + you're looking at cards calling for 400 or better Watts and the while the CX430 is rated at 430 peak, it only carries 385 or so watts on the 12 volt rail, that's what feeds your power hungry components so not a good fit in the first place. If it pops, it may well take your mobo, CPU and new GPU with it

 

[spentshells]

While I understand the concern over the cx power supplies I encourage everyone to read reviews on these power supplies on websites outside of tomshardware

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/CX430_V2/1.html

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=214

http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/corsair-cx430-v2-430w-power-supply-review/

Yes if you have the money get a better power supply, this time around I did and I bought one. When cost is a concern this will do nicely.

95 watts on the psu

150 watts for the gpu

60 for the rest of the platform

305 watts total draw is acceptable add another 50 watts for an overclock and you will see that you are still fine as far as the power requirements go.

 

[MarkW]

Spentshells, here is the problem. Reviews of power supplies only happens to BRAND NEW units. They get tested for 2-3 days, and the results published.

Then 6 months later, people have been buying them, and we find out whatever problems they might have. Now the Corsair CX and VS units were initially listed here on Tomshardware as Tier 3. Not real great to start with. But over time, we have seen more and more of these power supplies dying as early as 6 months after being purchased. And the longer people have them, the more of them fail.

It appears from what we see of them, that they have cheap capacitors in them. And they fail far before they should be failing. I know that I spend far more time dealing with Corsair CX power supplies that are failing prematurely than ALL OTHER BRANDS AND MODELS OF POWER SUPPLIES COMBINED! And that is an amazing statement in itself, since there are hundreds of other brands, and many hundreds of other models. But this one Corsair CX model occupies more of my time than everything else out there.

Bad caps is not something a reviewer is going to catch. But users will. And that is why the Corsair CX, CXM, and VS power supplies were lowered from Tier 3 to tier 4.

 

[Tradesman1]

There's a difference between getting a hand picked model for testing by reviewers and what you might get off the shelf. Reviews from users at Newegg for instance show 17% 1 Egg reviews primarily DOA and dying within a couple of months. Simply put, it's a budget line PSU with low end components, aimed at bare basic builds

 

[spentshells]

Alright so at random all the units I ever used, some in high power consumption machines, all are working at this point. Thats been my experience, they work as advertised, some of my builds are at the 5 year mark.
the cx was actually a replacement for a muschkin psu.... I think they bowed out of the psu game

q6600 and gtx 570 oc'd to 3.8 and 920 mhz on the core respectively, its about 4 years now turned off maybe once a week, always folding no issues. I swear that since the release of the modular models the rev 2 versions are far better than they were initially . Hey Im not saying they should be making the cx 750 or 850 because they shouldnt and for the price there are psus leaps and bounds better, but for an 860 and a 7850/ 265 / 370 its fine well more than enough. fav machine is still an ivy i3 and a 7850 I gave to my x wife and kids with a cx 430, its still whisper quiet and performing quite well.

25 on sale for that last 430 mention and 40 even for the q6600 replacement, CDN.... sure there are better psu available but not for those prices.

Failing more than all others combined??? Im going to say not even remotely likely preposterous even.

 

[MarkW]

I would say that you have been lucky. Nothing more. Nothing less. It does happen.

But I can also say that hundreds of people here have had units die early on them. And then what? Get another one after a month or two waiting for the RMA to complete processing? Or get a better quality unit where only tiny percentages fail?

There is a reason that Corsair can sell those things for less money than anyone else can. And it has nothing to do with magic. They chose to use what appears to be cheap capacitors, and their customers are paying dearly for the decision. All to make more money.

 

[Tradesman1]

Not saying they won't work, I myself won't touch them (nor will any of the builders or IT folks I network with, all of us have encounter problematic CX PSUs, from DOAs, to shortening out and have heard of some quasi exploding and fires). As builders most all of us simply stay away from problematic components and don't recommend them to others.