r9 270x 4GB for 1440p gaming?

[Guest]

I have never used a 1440p monitor before and will be getting on with my next build-

While I originally intended to get the cheap Visiontek r9 270x 2GB (the the fan wine) just to monitor myminecraft server, I want to start looking into PC gaming a bit more...

...plus I don't know if the 2GB would be enough...

Would the 4GB R9 270x be enough for decent 1440p gaming? or should I get the 280x or gtx 770 for $100 more? (ouch)

also, if you have a better suggestion, (like two lower cards that are more powerful for a decent price) I'd like to here it!

thank you-

 

[Cons29]

while 4gb will help in the 1440, i don't think a 270x would be enough to enjoy it. don't get me wrong, a 270x is a nice card, but for 1400 im not sure.
i'd get something with a bit more muscle.

i have a 670 and i have to lower some settings to get close to 120fps (i have 120hz), and that's @1080

 

[Guest]

I would be using a 60hz monitor...but it can OC to 120hz...

 

[Cons29]

it can oc to 120?? i know monitors can be overclocked, but i dont think it can go that far.
1440 is heavy, so if you can, get a better gpu, unless its ok to lower the settings

 

[Beezy]

while 4gb will help in the 1440, i don't think a 270x would be enough to enjoy it. don't get me wrong, a 270x is a nice card, but for 1400 im not sure.
i'd get something with a bit more muscle.

i have a 670 and i have to lower some settings to get close to 120fps (i have 120hz), and that's @1080

I agree the 4GB helps a lot with going into higher resolutions but the 270x is the bare minimum to enjoy gaming at that settings, you certainly can but you will be sacrificing some settings probably to enjoy more frames.

 

[Nikola Aslanov-1338074]

For the price - better get GTX 760 3GB, cheaper and faster than 270x. But both 270x and 760 will work better with 1080p.
If you wont good gameplay on 1440p, think about 280x, or the more affordable 770.

 

[nikoli707]

it really depends on the game. if your playing a graphically heavy game then 1440p is going to hammer a 270x pretty hard and many settings are going to need to be dropped down.

 

[Cons29]

1080 is good already, of course this is just my personal opinion.

but if you have the gpu already, getting a 1440 is ok and then just make it a point that your next gpu will be a lot better than what you have now. Most of us cannot upgrade to a 1400 together with a powerful gpu, so if that is the case but one part at a time.

 

[Guest]

Okay-
first I'd like to say why I'm bothering with 1440p...Digital art- The extra pixels will be nice, and I won't need as much AA in games.

okay- so a 270x is a no-go it seems...and the 760 isn't much better...

quick addon question- I have used AMD/ATI cards all my life...The only NVidia card I ever had was a Geforce4 MX440-
Would I be missing anything from switching brands?

I read that the new AMD gpus overheat quite a bit- Now should this affect my decision? loudness is not an issue as it will be installed into a Define XL R2

thanks again!

now

 

[nikoli707]

for the record a 270x will work with a 1440p monitor fine, for games you will just have to lower some key settings to medium and not run any high levels of anti aliasing.

my 7950 ran 1440p fine in games like skyrim, battlefield 3, even crysis 3 on a mix of high/medium settings and ran fine. the 7950 is more or less equal to a 760. although i initially tested the 760... and because of the mods i installed on skryim, the 2gb vram was causing my fps to drop through the floor. so i returned it for the 3gb 7950. though skyrim is one of the only known games to cause issues with vram, 2gb is usually fine even for 1440p.

if you don't have the urge to max out every graphical setting on games of the 270x, 1440p is definitely doable. if you can squeeze out some extra dough for the 760 you will get a boost in gaming performance and i think the 760 is a good bang for buck if you want very decent performance at that resolution. for your digital art you will absolutely fall in love with 1440p IPS monitors as they are just beautiful to look at.

either way, amd or nvidia, comparable cards, your not going to notice much difference unless you specifically need cuda acceleration from nvidia or the gpgpu performance from amd.

 

[Cons29]

^yes it will, we are just trying to tell him that it wont be running on max settings at 1440. even a lower card will run @1440, but how fine it will run depends on the card.

 

[Guest]

...I don't really want to be playing on low really...

I don't need to max games either, but higher setting would be nice...

 

[nikoli707]

i would recommend the 760 then.

 

[Guest]

i would recommend the 760 then.

(._.)
But I was just told it won't play very well...uhh...

While I said I don't need to max out the games...I want it to still look good visually...

okay- quick add on question

If I were to add a second monitor in the future - NOT for gaming
Would I be able to run both while on with SLI or crossfire? (assuming I get a second card in the future as well)

 

[Nikola Aslanov-1338074]

Actually I was not very correct in my previous comment.
Check here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-review
If you do not insist on max settings most games will be playable in 1440p with some quality reduction (except the usual suspect Metro 33) BF4 will probably be on the edge, but probably also playable.

 

[Guest]

okay- thank you.

I want to upgrade to a dual monitor in the future...so I would probably need crossfire/sli to do so

can I have more than one monitor with sli or crossfire? that would greatly affect my decision.

 

[Beezy]

you should be able to run two monitors with sli, but without eyefinity the gains of gaming with two monitors is what?

 

[Beezy]

also as for crossfire performance you need to look into your motherboard and see if you do 8x /8x (pci 3.0) crossfire, which would be worth it, or if it does 16x /x4 on the second card (pcie 2.0) then the gains wont really be worth it.

 

[Guest]

you should be able to run two monitors with sli, but without eyefinity the gains of gaming with two monitors is what?

also as for crossfire performance you need to look into your motherboard and see if you do 8x /8x (pci 3.0) crossfire, which would be worth it, or if it does 16x /x4 on the second card (pcie 2.0) then the gains wont really be worth it.

the motherboard I'm getting can do dual 16x and quad 8x...mostly just a side effect of getting a board I need for my usage...

how does eyefinity affect anything? I wasn't going to game on the second but I might run a 3d app on one and a different on the other...it seems to affectthe desktop but I am unsure on what it may do...
also is nvidia surround up to amd's eyefinity?

 

[spat55]

1440p for me even with AA doesn't use much more than 1.5GB for me, so you would be better off with something with more power and less VRAM. R9 280X or R9 290 would be best imo.

EDIT: If in America you would be better going with Nvidia atm as I believe prices have gotten out of hand for AMD with the whole Bitcoin saga.

 

[Guest]

1440p for me even with AA doesn't use much more than 1.5GB for me, so you would be better off with something with more power and less VRAM. R9 280X or R9 290 would be best imo.

EDIT: If in America you would be better going with Nvidia atm as I believe prices have gotten out of hand for AMD with the whole Bitcoin saga.

okay- but with multi-monitor (like I asked previously to the other user) how does eyefinity/surround affect how things work?

oh- and about AMD prices...would ordering the card from a different country fix that? or should I just get nvidia from the US?

 

[spat55]

1440p for me even with AA doesn't use much more than 1.5GB for me, so you would be better off with something with more power and less VRAM. R9 280X or R9 290 would be best imo.

EDIT: If in America you would be better going with Nvidia atm as I believe prices have gotten out of hand for AMD with the whole Bitcoin saga.

okay- but with multi-monitor (like I asked previously to the other user) how does eyefinity/surround affect how things work?

oh- and about AMD prices...would ordering the card from a different country fix that? or should I just get nvidia from the US?

With 1440p eyefinity you would need three r9 290x in crossfire to get half decent settings and frame rate.

Not sure with the AMD prices, should look into that yourself.

 

[Guest]

1440p for me even with AA doesn't use much more than 1.5GB for me, so you would be better off with something with more power and less VRAM. R9 280X or R9 290 would be best imo.

EDIT: If in America you would be better going with Nvidia atm as I believe prices have gotten out of hand for AMD with the whole Bitcoin saga.

okay- but with multi-monitor (like I asked previously to the other user) how does eyefinity/surround affect how things work?

oh- and about AMD prices...would ordering the card from a different country fix that? or should I just get nvidia from the US?

With 1440p eyefinity you would need three r9 290x in crossfire to get half decent settings and frame rate.

Not sure with the AMD prices, should look into that yourself.

Will an Nvidia also do multi monitor one sli? that is what I want to know as well...
I'm PROBABLY NOT gaming on more than one...

though I still have no idea what the difference would be between brands...

would vram matter? like would 3gb or 4gb make a huge difference in terms of surround/eyefinity performance? or would the 3/4gb be used per monitor?

 

[nikoli707]

many low level cards offer more than one monitor support, even if gaming. you get can get one monitor for the desktop, and you get gaming on the other. of course you can go into nvidia/amd settings and apply two monitor gaming, but it should normally default to one monitor. on top of that, if your motherboard is current-ish, you can just hook up to the motherboards outputs and have the secondary monitor run off of the igpu built into your cpu/chipset for output to the secondary monitor if it supports it.

you haven't said exactly what motherboard and cpu you are using in this thread so its hard to tell but giving your situation it is very likely. you should fill out your signature profile in toms so we/everyone knows what parts you have and then everything will be a lot easier for all of us to diagnose problems or tell you what the ideal settings likely would be.

 

[Bloodnut]

Id just like to chime in here, as Ive been running a Yamakasi Catleap Q270(c?), with a stock GTX 460SE for over a year, and I run most games on high settings @1440p, and a second 1080p monitor, so I don't really get what people talk about when they say that you need all these ridiculous cards for 1440p gaming, unless you really want to got ultra settings with AA turned way up.

Though it should be noted that since ive started modding skyrim, im really feeling the limitations of the 460SE, and have been looking for something to upgrade to.

From what Ive experienced personally, and through my research, Ive found that the most important thing for 1440p monitors, is your Vram, bus width, and bandwidth. For starters, you need to aim for 3gb or more for your Vram, with either a 256bit memory bus, and a >192gb/s bandwidth, or a higher memory bus(which would have a greater bandwidth by default.)

I personally have been looking at the R9 270s for crossfire. If you're going to get a 270x, get the sapphire 384-bit version, as the 179GB/s memory bandwidth of the 256-bit versions isnt sufficient to adequately utilize the 4gb of VRAM for such a large resolution. 256-bit would be fine for crossfire, but with a single card, you need a wider bus for that much VRAM.