R9 280 vs r9 380

[stinknugget14]

So a few days ago I was debating on getting an amd r9 280 or a gtx 960 but since the 960 doesn't require a power supply as lard as the 280 I decided I should get the 960. Fortunately I haven't bought it yet. This morning I saw the new amd r9 380 and on new egg it says the psu only needs to be 500w. The card is the same price as a 960 so I think I will go with that. What are someone's thoughts or some advice weather or not I should get it and the pros and cons of the card.
Thanks for the help

 

[Suztera]

The R9 380 will perform slightly better but the difference is quite close. But what is your psu? Brand and model?
With the GTX 960 you only have 2GB. Games in the future may use more than 2GB vram on 1080p and the R9 380 has 4GB.

 

[RobCrezz]

The 380 is essentially an overclocked r9 285, now available with 4gb of ram.

Performs pretty similar to the 960, tiny bit faster, but uses more power.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_380_strix_review,23.html


IMO, get which ever you can get cheaper, but get a 4gb.

 

[stinknugget14]

The R9 380 will perform slightly better but the difference is quite close. But what is your psu? Brand and model?
With the GTX 960 you only have 2GB. Games in the future may use more than 2GB vram on 1080p and the R9 380 has 4GB.

I haven't bought a psu yet because I was waiting to see wich gpu I get

 

[gab_th]

Why does this keep happening again and again? The R9 280 is better than the GTX 960, and also cheaper.

 

[stinknugget14]

Because when you have to buy the psu that supports a 280 it comes out to almost the same price

 

[gab_th]

Because when you have to buy the psu that supports a 280 it comes out to almost the same price

1.- The 380 doesn't perform "a tiny bit faster", it performs considerably better. Not immensly, but far from tiny, as even the 280 is noticeably better, not to mention that 2 GB doesn't really cut it anymore.

2.- The PSU requirements of the 280 are hugely overstated by AMD. Depending on your setup, you can probably get away with a decent 550W PSU, not a 750W one.

So, considering that the 380, just like the 280, doesn't have huge power requirements, you would be mad to buy the 960 instead of it. Not only is it faster, it also has 2GB more memory. The 960 is at $209 now, while the 380 4GB Asus is at $219. If you can squeeze $10 more out of your budget, there is no reason to get the 960.

 

[RobCrezz]

Because when you have to buy the psu that supports a 280 it comes out to almost the same price

1.- The 380 doesn't perform "a tiny bit faster", it performs considerably better. Not immensly, but far from tiny, as even the 280 is noticeably better, not to mention that 2 GB doesn't really cut it anymore.

2.- The PSU requirements of the 280 are hugely overstated by AMD. Depending on your setup, you can probably get away with a decent 550W PSU, not a 750W one.

So, considering that the 380, just like the 280, doesn't have huge power requirements, you would be mad to buy the 960 instead of it. Not only is it faster, it also has 2GB more memory. The 960 is at $209 now, while the 380 4GB Asus is at $219. If you can squeeze $10 more out of your budget, there is no reason to get the 960.

Within 1-5fps depending on the game compared to the 960, sounds like "tiny bit faster" to me.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_380_strix_review,1.html

 

[gab_th]

Because when you have to buy the psu that supports a 280 it comes out to almost the same price

1.- The 380 doesn't perform "a tiny bit faster", it performs considerably better. Not immensly, but far from tiny, as even the 280 is noticeably better, not to mention that 2 GB doesn't really cut it anymore.

2.- The PSU requirements of the 280 are hugely overstated by AMD. Depending on your setup, you can probably get away with a decent 550W PSU, not a 750W one.

So, considering that the 380, just like the 280, doesn't have huge power requirements, you would be mad to buy the 960 instead of it. Not only is it faster, it also has 2GB more memory. The 960 is at $209 now, while the 380 4GB Asus is at $219. If you can squeeze $10 more out of your budget, there is no reason to get the 960.

Within 1-5fps depending on the game compared to the 960, sounds like "tiny bit faster" to me.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_380_strix_review,1.html

1 might be, but 5 is not, and I'm pretty sure you can get more than that in some games. Not only does the 960 give 2GB VRAM, which is not acceptable anymore in that price range, but it also has a tiny memory bus, which cripples the card, not even allowing it to use its puny 2GB in some instances. The fact is, as with many other Nvidia products (not all, because I think on the upper ranges, higher than R9 290 they are the best option), in the case of the 960 you are paying a premium for a product that isn't worth it.

The 960 sits a little bit below the 280 in terms of performance, and its price should reflect that and be at around $170-$185, not $209.

 

[stinknugget14]

thanks for the help i ordered a 380 last night with this psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

 

[gab_th]

thanks for the help i ordered a 380 last night with this psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

You won't regret it.

 

[ben3591]

Why does this keep happening again and again? The R9 280 is better than the GTX 960, and also cheaper.

Its really not, the r9 280 may be better than the 2gb version of the 960 but the 4gb version of the 960 beats the r9 280 in fps, coolness, power and noise.

 

[ben3591]

Because when you have to buy the psu that supports a 280 it comes out to almost the same price

1.- The 380 doesn't perform "a tiny bit faster", it performs considerably better. Not immensly, but far from tiny, as even the 280 is noticeably better, not to mention that 2 GB doesn't really cut it anymore.

2.- The PSU requirements of the 280 are hugely overstated by AMD. Depending on your setup, you can probably get away with a decent 550W PSU, not a 750W one.

So, considering that the 380, just like the 280, doesn't have huge power requirements, you would be mad to buy the 960 instead of it. Not only is it faster, it also has 2GB more memory. The 960 is at $209 now, while the 380 4GB Asus is at $219. If you can squeeze $10 more out of your budget, there is no reason to get the 960.

You can get a 4gb variant of the 960.....

 

[gab_th]

thanks for the help i ordered a 380 last night with this psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

Why does this keep happening again and again? The R9 280 is better than the GTX 960, and also cheaper.

Its really not, the r9 280 may be better than the 2gb version of the 960 but the 4gb version of the 960 beats the r9 280 in fps, coolness, power and noise.

Not really. As I said, the tiny memory bus in the 960 bottlenecks its VRAM, so much so that it even has trouble using its 2GB in some situations. Also, if you go for the 4GB edition, that's $239, a long way from the $190 that the 280 costs. You might as well compare it to the 280x if you're that willing to swing the budget merrily about, not to mention that the 290 often falls to about $240 when there are discounts. To be honest, Nvidia is not a sensible option, unless your budget allows you to go for a 970 onwards, and its not that one brand is better than the other, it's just that they target different budgets in the market.

 

[thegummy]

I see that you've already gone for the 380, but for future reference: I have a Corsair 550W VX and have been running the R9 280 perfectly fine for a while now.

Rest of system is a Phenom II 955, 12gb ram, 3 internal HDDs

 

[G3t_r3kt_m8]

Because when you have to buy the psu that supports a 280 it comes out to almost the same price

1.- The 380 doesn't perform "a tiny bit faster", it performs considerably better. Not immensly, but far from tiny, as even the 280 is noticeably better, not to mention that 2 GB doesn't really cut it anymore.

2.- The PSU requirements of the 280 are hugely overstated by AMD. Depending on your setup, you can probably get away with a decent 550W PSU, not a 750W one.

So, considering that the 380, just like the 280, doesn't have huge power requirements, you would be mad to buy the 960 instead of it. Not only is it faster, it also has 2GB more memory. The 960 is at $209 now, while the 380 4GB Asus is at $219. If you can squeeze $10 more out of your budget, there is no reason to get the 960.

How much wattage psu would the 380 need

 

[gab_th]

Because when you have to buy the psu that supports a 280 it comes out to almost the same price

1.- The 380 doesn't perform "a tiny bit faster", it performs considerably better. Not immensly, but far from tiny, as even the 280 is noticeably better, not to mention that 2 GB doesn't really cut it anymore.

2.- The PSU requirements of the 280 are hugely overstated by AMD. Depending on your setup, you can probably get away with a decent 550W PSU, not a 750W one.

So, considering that the 380, just like the 280, doesn't have huge power requirements, you would be mad to buy the 960 instead of it. Not only is it faster, it also has 2GB more memory. The 960 is at $209 now, while the 380 4GB Asus is at $219. If you can squeeze $10 more out of your budget, there is no reason to get the 960.

How much wattage psu would the 380 need

Depends on the rest of the system, but for a very standard one, you could get away with 450W, but since 500-550W PSUs are not really any more expensive, I'd aim for one of those. But as I said: depends on the rest of the system.

 

[17seconds]

thanks for the help i ordered a 380 last night with this psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

You won't regret it.

Unless you decide to fire up a PhysX game.