Radeon 8000 series

Corvallis5

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I'm building a high end gaming computer and the last part I need to order is the video card (budget $450, Radeon 7970 Ghz) and I was wondering when the new video cards would come out and if I should wait. I'm willing to wait about a month and I want to know if it will even be worth it to wait. In other words:
When do they come out? (speculation, as close as you can guess)
Can I get a $450 8000 series on launch day that will be more powerful than a current $450 card?
 

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MAY?!! Where did you get that news? AMD typically release at the end of the year/start of next year, although prices will be very high because no other cards could compete with them.

2. Well considering a 7970 is like two 6950's, I would assume that an 8970 would be two 7950's.

3. I don't agree with that card, only single link DVI's, won't be compatible with those Korean IPS 2560x1440 panels, sort of restricting there.

I would go for this 7970:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202001

Cheaper, I think same clocks, better cooler, and quieter.
 

melikepie

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The one I put has a much better clock then that, and it's great for overclocking.
 

http://www.techpowerup.com/176568/Probable-Radeon-HD-8000-Series-GPU-Specifications-Surface.html

Q2 2013, meaning April - June
 

JJ1217

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Ooh. Looks interesting, looks like I might have to wait longer for a new card, my 7850 is gonna get crushed when I move to 2560x1440 later this year :(

Also, had a look about the differences between the Lightning 7970 and the Vapor-X one. Its like a 20 Mhz Core clock difference, something that could be added with a click of a button, with no voltage change.

EDIT: The article seems a little off as well, and you can see people pointing holes in the comments section.. I dunno seems kind of dodgy to trust that article.
 



to answer #2, no. the reason for the performance gap between the 6000 and 7000 carads is due to an architecture change. the 8k series is still GCN, its just optimized GCN, so its more closer to relation from 5k series to 6k series or the fermi 400 series to the fermi 500 series.
 
Its going to be interesting to see what Nvidia do bring to the table.
What with self imposed memory bus restrictions on some cards, process improvements and a power envelope that they can push should they want or need to, its pretty easy for them to cover a release increase from AMD in line with the performance increase that they achieved from the 6 series to the 7 series.
Then as the article reports they have the GK110 waiting in the wings.

Mactronix :)
 

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Yeah it would be nuts to buy a Radeon 8000 series GPU before the GTX700 series launch. Even if you have no intention of buying a GeForce regardless of spec (which is silly, but some people are that way inclined), 8000 series prices will drop like a stone as soon as they have some next-gen competition. AMD are gonna need something a hell of a lot better than morphological AA in the new cards if they're compete with TXAA and FXAA...
 


plus the HD8k series also still on 28nm node. of course you can add more transistor to the die to increase performance but with the same node the power consumption will also rise. i already heard about the next radeon flagship will have 2500+ SP. with 7970 (around 2000 SP) their card already have 250w TDP. i wonder what the TDP will for cards with 2500+ SP.



with GTX680 it shows nvidia that the lack of compute parts in their geforce line up is not a problem for them to sell their product. so i wonder if they can tweak GK110 specifically for geforce cards with stripping out all the DP stuff from the chip and tune it purely for gaming purpose
 

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I think that works both ways, really. AMD might strip down some of the compute stuff on the tahiti chip during upscaling, make it more like the smaller chip thats on the 7800 cards (but a lot bigger :lol: )

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also the tpu article that was linked seems to be full of holes... or so they say :p
 

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I still think AMD wins when it comes to GPUs.
 



Seems logical, they have done this before of course. Back then it was a case of chasing the power draw down to acceptable levels. Even if they find they don't need to do that this time around I would expect them to strip it out to some extent for the consumer market gaming cards anyway.

Mactronix :)
 

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Are these prices accurate though....?

You would think that it would be the opposite and be much more expensive, considering it will be an unchallenged new generations of cards until the GTX700 series is released
 
anything can change before the actual launch so take it with grain of salt. btw based on the rumors so far the HD8000 series will launch around late Q1 or Q2. nvidia also expected to launch their next gen around that time period so the price might get competitive from the very start for both brand
 

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That's true. It's really not worth the cost. For $1600 you can build an overclocking wizard with an i5, and a XFX 7970 crossfire. Now that's worth it.
 

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I would go for a temporary card like a 6850 or something used that you can get a good deal on, then get the newly released card :D