Although I was dissapointed as I'm sure many of us were, I was also very excited. Even with ATI's clearly messed up drivers, the Radeon 8500 held it's own against the 110% optimized nVidia gear. It tells me that for $100 less ($225 vs $325) I am getting a lot more card and as long as it works, I can wait a little for better drivers. The 8500 is an impressive card. It seems like the sky's the limit if they can somehow get their drivers working. Hat's off to nVidia to the best drivers anywhere of any product but put me down for one 8500 please.